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  • #1262
    CINCLANTFLT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 781 ✭✭✭CINCLANTFLT


    After reading the following I went out to Heuston Station:
    ••••••••••••••
    Cork/Dublin - Service are now resuming with first service 11.00hrs Dublin/Cork and 11.20 Cork/Dublin. 12.00hrs Dublin to Cork is cancelled, full service resumes thereafter.
    ••••••••••••••••

    To find that the 13:00 and 14:00 were also cancelled due to "no drivers for the trains"... on my way into town to get an Aircoach instead...


  • #1263
    Heisenberg1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭Heisenberg1


    n97 mini wrote: »
    Maybe Trump was right about the BBC and #fakenews :)

    All joking aside that is some really poor journalism.


  • #1264
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,653 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Heisenberg1 wrote: »
    All joking aside that is some really poor journalism.

    I've learned over time that journalists and numbers (and anything business-related TBH) tend not to mix well.


  • #1265
    Peppa Pig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Peppa Pig


    trellheim wrote: »
    NBRU if they DID know about it, had a clear responsibility a couple of days ago to inform RTE that a wildcat was likely at 0600 this morning.
    I can't believe NBRU were unaware and as a responsible partner had a duty to recommend against this and let the travelling people know and plan.
    On New Now this morning, the secondary picketers have said they will continue with these "lightening" strikes.
    Considering Noone was roaring outside the Dáil the other day abut "bringing this country to a standstill" he can't deny lack of knowledge next time.


  • #1266
    Wheety
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,494 ✭✭✭Wheety


    Peppa Pig wrote: »
    On New Now this morning, the secondary picketers have said they will continue with these "lightening" strikes.
    Considering Noone was roaring outside the Dáil the other day abut "bringing this country to a standstill" he can't deny lack of knowledge next time.

    It was also very well organized. A bunch of drivers in different parts of the country don't just decide to do this by coincidence. It was for maximum rush hour disruption. They started disbanding the pickets at 10am :rolleyes:


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  • #1267
    pilly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    So it appears that all the secondary pickets have been removed. Bit of a storm in a teacup no?


  • #1268
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    CINCLANTFLT wrote: »
    After reading the following I went out to Heuston Station:
    ••••••••••••••
    Cork/Dublin - Service are now resuming with first service 11.00hrs Dublin/Cork and 11.20 Cork/Dublin. 12.00hrs Dublin to Cork is cancelled, full service resumes thereafter.
    ••••••••••••••••

    To find that the 13:00 and 14:00 were also cancelled due to "no drivers for the trains"... on my way into town to get an Aircoach instead...

    13.00/14.00 are operating, 11.00/12.00 cancelled, when drivers and trains are in Cork what do you expect.


  • #1269
    schemingbohemia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭schemingbohemia


    pilly wrote: »
    So it appears that all the secondary pickets have been removed. Bit of a storm in a teacup no?

    Tell that to my colleague who had to drive in from Malahide this morning instead of taking the DART - 2 1/2 hours!

    The Unions are a disgrace and Noone should be personally sued for encouraging this.


  • #1270
    Gamb!t
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭Gamb!t


    CINCLANTFLT wrote: »
    After reading the following I went out to Heuston Station:
    ••••••••••••••
    Cork/Dublin - Service are now resuming with first service 11.00hrs Dublin/Cork and 11.20 Cork/Dublin. 12.00hrs Dublin to Cork is cancelled, full service resumes thereafter.
    ••••••••••••••••

    To find that the 13:00 and 14:00 were also cancelled due to "no drivers for the trains"... on my way into town to get an Aircoach instead...
    Says on the Irish rail site they will operate.
    "Update Cork Services: Service resuming with 11.00hrs Dub/Cork. 12.00hrs Heuston/Cork is cancelled. Services will operate hourly thereafter."


  • #1271
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,572 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    CosmicJay wrote: »
    In 2015 Transport Scotland only gave 2.2 billion to all public transport in the whole of Scotland.

    Edit: Including roads.

    Including roads, LOL, that is sort of an important difference :rolleyes:


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  • #1272
    MOH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,472 ✭✭✭MOH


    pilly wrote: »
    So it appears that all the secondary pickets have been removed. Bit of a storm in a teacup no?

    Apart from all the people who couldn't get to work this morning?


  • #1273
    pilly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    MOH wrote: »
    Apart from all the people who couldn't get to work this morning?

    Okay, okay, I get that people were inconvenienced this morning. My point was not against commuters, it was against the drivers feeling that what they did this morning would bring the country to a standstill and Ross would step in.

    He didn't so their bluff was called and it's all over in the blink of an eye.


  • #1274
    n97 mini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,991 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    I've no doubt the secondary pickets were union organised, with the NBRU the most likely candidates.

    They had no union branding on their phoney signs/plackards to make sure no union could be fingered. Something they learned from the Russians with their "little green men".


  • #1275
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    n97 mini wrote: »
    I've no doubt the secondary pickets were union organised, with the NBRU the most likely candidates.

    They had no union branding on their phoney signs/plackards to make sure no union could be fingered. Something they learned from the Russians with their "little green men".

    SIPTU cough, cough

    (IMO of course...)


  • #1276
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,051 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    pc7 wrote: »
    Very very very difficult in a unionised organisation to cross a picket even if illegal. I sadly work in such a place and they still talk about xxx who crossed a picket 10 years ago!

    It's simple if it's not your colleagues that's on the pickets.


  • #1277
    CINCLANTFLT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 781 ✭✭✭CINCLANTFLT


    Gamb!t wrote: »
    Says on the Irish rail site they will operate.
    "Update Cork Services: Service resuming with 11.00hrs Dub/Cork. 12.00hrs Heuston/Cork is cancelled. Services will operate hourly thereafter."

    And I'm telling you I was in Heuston and that ain't the case... spoke to Customer Service and everything... at Air Coach stop now queuing... no sympathy here for BE drivers amongst those queued up...


  • #1278
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,471 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Radio 1 were just having a very lively debate on this. The strikers are really trying to drag the Government in, comparing it to the Garda payrises a little while ago.

    Absolute nonsense... although the latter shouldn't have been given into either - especially in light of what's been coming out since.


  • #1279
    MOH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,472 ✭✭✭MOH


    pilly wrote: »
    So it appears that all the secondary pickets have been removed. Bit of a storm in a teacup no?
    pilly wrote: »
    Okay, okay, I get that people were inconvenienced this morning. My point was not against commuters, it was against the drivers feeling that what they did this morning would bring the country to a standstill and Ross would step in.

    He didn't so their bluff was called and it's all over in the blink of an eye.

    To be honest, I think they got what they wanted. Caused chaos at a busy time, they're all gone before anyone can actually get organised about holding them accountable for anything, and they've the threat of doing it again.

    On the other hand, Ross now has massive public support for giving them absolutely zero.


  • #1280
    pilly
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    MOH wrote: »
    To be honest, I think they got what they wanted. Caused chaos at a busy time, they're all gone before anyone can actually get organised about holding them accountable for anything, and they've the threat of doing it again.

    On the other hand, Ross now has massive public support for giving them absolutely zero.

    So what did they get then? Nothing. Ross is standing tough and the public agree with him.

    Surely that's not what the drivers wanted?


  • #1281
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    MOH wrote: »
    To be honest, I think they got what they wanted. Caused chaos at a busy time, they're all gone before anyone can actually get organised about holding them accountable for anything, and they've the threat of doing it again.

    On the other hand, Ross now has massive public support for giving them absolutely zero.

    It's a tactic they won't be able to pull again, once is fine but again and they will be at the high court.


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  • #1282
    PhilipsR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 723 ✭✭✭PhilipsR


    pilly wrote: »
    So what did they get then? Nothing. Ross is standing tough and the public agree with him.

    Surely that's not what the drivers wanted?

    I got to admit. I had absolutely no time for Shane Ross. He seemed clueless when it came to transport and don't get me started and what he thinks of cyclists.

    But you got to call a spade a spade here, he has done a great job in this situation and has gained my respect for it. Today showed that the strikers are getting desperate. He needs to continue to stand strong and leave them be regardless.


  • #1283
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,293 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Radio 1 were just having a very lively debate on this. The strikers are really trying to drag the Government in, comparing it to the Garda payrises a little while ago.

    Absolute nonsense... although the latter shouldn't have been given into either - especially in light of what's been coming out since.



    If the Gardai hadn't got their pay rise BEFORE the latest headlines re. false inputting of data onto PULSE, they would have no chance of getting it now!


  • #1284
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    It's simple if it's not your colleagues that's on the pickets.

    Bet you would keep that to yourself rather than say it to you colleagues?


  • #1285
    trellheim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,213 ✭✭✭trellheim


    dont feed the troll !


  • #1286
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,051 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    I'd love an AMA with a striking worker, assuming they answered honesty.


  • #1287
    strandroad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    ixoy wrote: »
    I'd love an AMA with a striking worker, assuming they answered honesty.

    They'd like to charge boards for that. Preferably overtime.


  • #1288
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,886 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    devnull wrote: »
    I honestly think that people in Ireland do not realise what a true Right Wing party is, The UK Conservatives are far more right wing than FG.

    Ireland would be a great place with a Tory branch party.


  • #1289
    murphaph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,052 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    Riskymove wrote: »
    wasn't there a long term strike on southern trains recently

    there have also been strikes on tube and buses over recent times

    nowhere is perfect
    It highlights the bad way the UK does rail privatisation. They essentially reversed the nationalisation of the railways back to the regional railways.

    It's trading one big monopoly for several smaller ones.

    In Germany they do not do it this way. Trains from different operators run on the same rails. No operator gets dibs on geographic regions.

    If ODEG strikes, I can take DB or vice versa into Berlin from here.


  • #1290
    monument
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,120 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    Lightning22 -- banned for trolling. Post deleted.


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  • #1291
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,293 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    devnull wrote: »
    I honestly think that people in Ireland do not realise what a true Right Wing party is, The UK Conservatives are far more right wing than FG.

    Correct.
    A Thatcherite Government would have privatised BE long ago.

    Many here are probably too young to remember the Miners Strikes. Maggie realised that the UK couldn't afford to prop up the coal mines any longer, especially when the country could import Polish coal far cheaper than dig their own.
    Thus saving money, and conserving the UK's coal reserves for a future date.


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