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Wedding gift help (MOD WARNING IN POST #1)

  • 09-03-2017 02:58PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32


    Okay so my bf's sister is getting married in Portugal this year. It's our first wedding together and having trouble with what to give.

    It's costing about €500 - €600 each to attend this wedding as there is only flights once a week at the time of the year, that's not including travel in ireland to airport, outfits etc.

    It is just the two of us attending but already attending is costing more than I would spend on a holiday per year. Bear in mind I'm 24 so not a lot of surplus income .

    My bf asked his mom about a gift and the guide she gave was €500 - €600 between us. I can't afford this and it seems outlandish to me considering the cost of attending the wedding.

    What would people suggest would be a reasonable gift for this circumstance? Bearing in mind her and her soon hubby are well off as are the parents so expectations are high, they already think I'm cheap because I can't afford the 5* hotel they have all booked.

    Thanks

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,766 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    For destination weddings there really shouldn't be an expectation of anything other then a token gift, 50e max.
    I would also say that it's not up to you to pay half of his siblings wedding present, your not engaged and you shouldn't be really asked to contribute any more then you would usually for a wedding - she's not your sibling and you can't afford it. You need to tell your partner that.

    His family sound awful and their attitude to money would be a massive turn off to me.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,442 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    I asked here before about a gift for a wedding abroad (although it was my cousin in that case) and I was advised that €100 as a couple was plenty so €500/€600 is totally excessive IMO, even if the wedding was at home! Is your boyfriend wealthy or are you both on a similar budget? Could he cover more?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭BetsyEllen


    Jesus, €500-600 for a wedding gift?! No matter your age, that is insane and the Mother is living with her head in the clouds.

    As GingerLily has pointed out, you're not really responsible for providing half the gift here anyway.

    How is your boyfriend feeling about it, is he agreeing that €500-€600 is acceptable and asking you for half?

    A token gift is definitely all I'd be giving.
    I really do think though that when people are having guests spend so much money on travel and accommodation, it should be made very clear that no gifts are wanted.

    I'd also think about how you're being treated here by the family, seriously bad for the Mother to suggest that kind of cost and to make you feel cheap for not being able to afford a 5* hotel. I'm 30, work full time with a good job and a 5* hotel for a week in Portugal would be a big stretch for me also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭witchgirl26


    Oh my god that amount for a present is ridiculous! I didn't give that to my own sister last year and hers wasn't a destination wedding at all! I spent about €200 in total on her. My other half contributed another bout €75 and we've been together 5 years! For friends we split the gift amount equally but I didn't think it was fair to ask him for half of what I was giving a sibling.

    Ignore about them thinking you're cheap. I wouldn't be paying a huge amount for a hotel and I'm 8 years older! Sure do they expect you to be on mad good money at that age?! Nutters. If they're that worried about having you in that hotel, they can foot the bill!


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 17,009 Mod ✭✭✭✭Toots


    OP first of all, his mother is way out of line telling ye that a gift of that size is appropriate. It's generally accepted that with destination weddings, there's more expense on the guests, and therefore couples often tell people not to give gifts, or only to give tokens.

    How long are ye going out? I remember my hubby's brother got married when we were going out about a year. He was working full time and I was still in school, so I was concerned about how I'd afford a gift with limited income, but he didn't expect me to contribute - he'd planned to get them a voucher and just put both our names on the card. In the end I gave €50 towards it because I felt bad that he was paying for the whole gift, plus a night in the hotel (wedding in Ireland but hotel was too far not to stay overnight)

    I think your BF's family are being very unfair expecting you to shoulder such a massive expense - 5* hotel plus very large wedding gift. I think that given how much it is already costing you, €100 between ye would be very generous. What does your BF think of all this? How is he fixed financially?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Jesus wtf is wrong with people, that's an insane amount for any wedding let alone one you are having to pay to travel too.

    Give what you can afford and if the cost of the wedding means you have nothing else to hand over don't give a gift. My husbands family all travelled here for our wedding and we made a point of having a no gifts policy, we couldn't expect that people who went to the trouble of taking holidays for our event and who spent money on flights getting here would then be further out of pocket. They had already given enough imo.

    Only give what you can afford to, you shouldn't be in debt just to attend a wedding. His family should understand if they have any sense and decency.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,132 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    Completely excessive.

    As someone who got married in Ireland, no couple gave us that amount.

    I would think destination weddings are even less.


  • Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you can afford €100 I think you're doing fine.

    Your bf can cover the rest, up to whatever he thinks is appropriate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭clint_silver


    I hate giving cash unless I know the couple are stuck and generally this would be known beforehand. It doesnt sound like thats the case here so why give cash at all? A personal gift would me much more appreciated.
    I still go back to my office fan story Ive mentioned here a few times before. Me and missus silver got lots of the regular 100-150e presents when we got married, all very welcome. someone gave me an office fan. an old neighbour. We laughed at it at the time. Put it in the attic with a couple of picture frame things we got. Took it out 13 years later during a hot summer and was never so glad of something in my life. Had an awakening moment. I remember that gift more than any other gift anyone ever gave me. Id say the thing cost no more than 20 quid at the time.

    Not advocating you get them a fan but if you do get them something you think they might find useful in their lives, it doesnt have to be cash and certinaly not worth 500+


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 17,009 Mod ✭✭✭✭Toots


    Just wondering OP, is the sister the first one in the family to get married and are they a particularly wealthy family?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭SarahMollie


    Completely excessive.

    I don't know if his mother is completely out of touch with reality or what was her motivation in suggesting such a ridiculous sum to two young people, who are already spending plenty to attend.

    You are totally justified in objecting to this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,101 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I don't know if his mother is completely out of touch with reality or what was her motivation in suggesting such a ridiculous sum to two young people, who are already spending plenty to attend.

    The mother is probably listening to how much it's costing the coupke to get married. They probably need 500 bucks from each couple who are attending to cover the cost of their extravagant wedding/holiday and have a few thousand left over for themselves.

    In any case, I wouldn't feel the slightest bit obliged to play along with their fantasy


  • Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My bf asked his mom about a gift and the guide she gave was €500 - €600 between us.

    "Grand sweetheart. Here's €50 from me, I'll leave you to decide how much you want to give. Love yooouuuuuuu".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭tiredblondie


    I gave 200euro to my sister for her wedding which was abroad too - spent over a grand on going, not including spending money so 200euro was more than plenty!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 yvonne.joy.3


    Toots wrote: »
    Just wondering OP, is the sister the first one in the family to get married and are they a particularly wealthy family?

    Yes she is the first, there is only the two of them. And yes the sister and her fiance as well as the parents are well to do.

    I had the convo with my O/H last night and he agreed to me only contributing what I can, which after the cost of attending I don't think much.

    Although he is not well off only part time work he is going to find the money to make up the rest as he believes it is a perfectly reasonable amount.

    And we have agreed on accommodation that there is a max that I can afford to spend and it's not budging from that as I'm not putting myself into debt for attending a wedding.

    I just needed to check that I wasn't being unreasonable and thank you all for your very helpful responses


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,101 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I had the convo with my O/H last night and he agreed to me only contributing what I can, which after the cost of attending I don't think much.

    Jaysus you don't need to put yourself on austerity beans on toast for the rest of the year. If out have to save up for a couple of months to go to the wedding in the first place, then I'd consider myself to have given enough.

    Lots of people think their wedding is as important to you as the is to them. Far from putting yourself in debt, you need to draw a line under the cost of the wedding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,087 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble



    Although he is not well off only part time work he is going to find the money to make up the rest as he believes it is a perfectly reasonable amount.

    I dunno ... but if it was me, I'd be thinking about upgrading to a more economical BF. This one's going to be troublesome in the long term.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭__Alex__


    Yes she is the first, there is only the two of them. And yes the sister and her fiance as well as the parents are well to do.

    I had the convo with my O/H last night and he agreed to me only contributing what I can, which after the cost of attending I don't think much.

    Although he is not well off only part time work he is going to find the money to make up the rest as he believes it is a perfectly reasonable amount.

    And we have agreed on accommodation that there is a max that I can afford to spend and it's not budging from that as I'm not putting myself into debt for attending a wedding.

    I just needed to check that I wasn't being unreasonable and thank you all for your very helpful responses

    Good job, OP!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    when a wedding is abroad I would have always been under the impression that my presence was the gift.


  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Contrary to some here I'd see 500-600 as being a very reasonable gift to give a sibling. I've known people to give 1k to siblings and I myself would be giving 200 (as a couple) at a normal wedding and 300 if I'm grooms man or gf bridesmaid.

    However I would not think the op should be giving half in this instance even if she was much longer going out with her bf, he should be giving the bulk of the present.

    As an aside myself and my gf decided a few years ago with approx 20 wedding ahead of us that the fairest way to work it is who's ever friend/family member is getting married they give the full present for that wedding rather than splitting it. As we have a lot of weddings on both sides it works well and means there is no debate over amounts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,101 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Contrary to some here I'd see 500-600 as being a very reasonable gift to give a sibling. I've known people to give 1k to siblings and I myself would be giving 200 (as a couple) at a normal wedding and 300 if I'm grooms man or gf bridesmaid.

    Doesn't it depend an what the Individual can afford?

    So if you can afford 600 or 1000 that's fair enough. But doesn't it depend on what​ the OP can afford in this case and the op said they can't afford that much, so...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Rhinohippo


    It's you bf's sister's wedding. It's your bf who should be giving the gift to HIS sister. You are HIS guest at the wedding. If you are paying for your own flights etc., then he should be giving the gift to HIS sister. Let him give what he wants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Me and my boyfriend have a rule that whosever side the occasion is on, that sibling will give the money. He covers his family and I cover mine. For a wedding I've never given more than €250 and that's as bridesmaid to my sister.
    We go halves on nieces and nephews bdays.
    Are you sure this is the kind of family you want to be getting involved with? They sound like a nightmare. I reckon this wedding abroad will be an eye opener for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Rhinohippo


    anna080 wrote: »
    Me and my boyfriend have a rule that whosever side the occasion is on, that sibling will give the money. He covers his family and I cover mine. For a wedding I've never given more than €250 and that's as bridesmaid to my sister.
    We go halves on nieces and nephews bdays.
    Are you sure this is the kind of family you want to be getting involved with? They sound like a nightmare. I reckon this wedding abroad will be an eye opener for you.

    Totally agree with this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,943 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    as an aside, what would happen if you got someone who is well off and has high standards €500 worth of lidl vouchers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Rhinohippo


    as an aside, what would happen if you got someone who is well off and has high standards €500 worth of lidl vouchers?
    Presume they could give the vouchers to their cleaning staff:):):):)... lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,663 ✭✭✭Milly33


    It should not really be a matter or if they are well off or not, ye or them. it is what ye can afford to give and certainly €200 between two is loads...


  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    200 euro between two is pretty much the standard for any wedding you would go to, I don't think its near enough for a sibling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭SarahMollie


    200 euro between two is pretty much the standard for any wedding you would go to, I don't think its near enough for a sibling.

    But like, whats to point though. If you give them €500, then they'll probably give you €500 when the time comes, so it all works out at zero.

    For a sibling, I think I'd be more likely to give them the €200 standard gift and then add to it with something more personal where the exact cost is less clear.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    My sibling would never in a million years accept €500 from me. That's just madness. Anything over €300 is excessive, no matter who the person is


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