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Fourth wave feminism.
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What are the problems with feminism? There are none really, unless of course you are really paranoid and full of spite - then Im sure there are loads
There are ton of problems with feminism and most of them have been discussed on the thread.... which I suspect you haven't read very much of. It is highly destructive to western society and has been for some time. It not only negatively impacts on men, but women and children also. All you have to do is look at what happens whenever a radical feminist gets themselves into positions of power, as without fail they will show their true colours and try and implement sexist and discriminatory legislation, like Harriet Harman tried to do here.
Then you have the victimhood feminists who see almost everything a guy does as being evidence of patriarchal oppression. Like for example when Steve Martin dared tweet a tribute about Carrie Fisher.'s passing. In the end he had delete the tweet such was the level of madness accusing him of sexism.
So there's two ends of the scale for you and in between is just a slew of similar self serving bile that has been served up to western society over the past forty odd years or more... and people are sick of it.Now off down to the rape crisis centre and tell the people there your views on feminism
And what makes you think that any woman that would unfortunately find herself relying on such services would be on your side here? You think a woman that has just been raped would be on the side of those that would have the audacity to say that songs such as Baby It's Cold Outside are evidence of rape culture?why is this sinister?
It's sinister because I have read the kind of crap those people have had to say elsewhere online and children's minds shouldn't be poisoned with misandric propaganda, and that's precisely what it is. These people march and protest when anyone that is against feminism plans to give a speech (such as Warren Farrell) and while they have been successful on many occasions, the tide is turning and people are beginning to stand up to them. They are now turning their attention to children so that they can control how they think in this regard. Feminists do not have the monopoly on egalitarian thinking or the belief that gender stereotypes have negative consequences. We can educate our children just fine on these matters without adding misandric poison and feminist dogma to the primary curriculum thanks very much.We must stop indoctrinating boys in feminist ideology
A school in Oxford has become the first to introduce “Good Lad” workshops, in which boys are singled out for sessions that teach them about “the scale of sexual harassment and violence aimed at female students” and how they must stand up for women's rights.
The workshops are the latest in a mushrooming series of initiatives in which ideologically-driven activists are being invited into schools, driven by the belief that boys need to be re-educated to prevent them from becoming a threat to women.
In November last year, The Times reported on a programme in London Schools in which two American women, one a former sex crime prosecutor, “re-programme teenage boys’ sexual manners so they are fit for a feminist world”.
According to the report, they start the class by asserting that “misogyny is on the rise”, before going on to “describe real-life sex crimes that have happened to teenagers in this area with brutal accuracy”. The article concludes – approvingly -- that by the end of the session, the boys are “scarred for life”.
In context of the chasm between boys’ and girls’ educational attainment and a rising male suicide rate that is now nearly four times that of women’s, why are schools deciding that when it comes to talking about gender, what boys need most is an extra dose of guilt and shame?
Since when was it acceptable to impose ideology on school children?
You’d never know it from the rhetoric, but a man – and particularly a young man -- is around twice as likely to be a victim of violent crime as a woman.
And it’s not just drunken street violence either. A 2009 NSPCC report into domestic violence in teenage relationships, showed teenage boys suffer comparable rates of violence from their girlfriends as do teenage girls from their boyfriends.
In the same year another report, this time by Childline, found that of the children who called to report sexual abuse, a total of 8,457 were girls (64pc) and 4,780 were boys (36pc). The charity also found boys were more likely to say they had been sexually abused by a woman (1,722 cases) than by a man (1,651).
In March, the Government announced the introduction of new consent classes for children aged as young as 11. The plans were launched on International Women’s Day and the PSHE guidelines repeatedly state they are primarily part of the Government’s A Call to End Violence Against Women and Girls strategy.
In 2001, novelist and feminist icon Doris Lessing made a shocking assessment of what she had seen while visiting a school classroom.
She told the Edinburgh Book Festival, "I was in a class of nine- and 10-year-olds, girls and boys, and this young woman was telling these kids that the reason for wars was the innately violent nature of men.
"You could see the little girls, fat with complacency and conceit while the little boys sat there crumpled, apologising for their existence, thinking this was going to be the pattern of their lives."
Lessing expressed deep concern that what she had witnessed was just a glimpse of an increasingly pervasive culture of toxic feminism in schools that was weighing down boys with a collective sense of guilt and shame.
She had every right to be worried. It seems there is now a drive to make shame and guilt a formal part of boys’ education.0 -
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El_Duderino 09 wrote: »I'm sure it wouldn't shock you to find out that everyone isn't as enlightened as yourself. So you'd support the seminar that sparked this discussion? (Well you might if not for the knee-jerk responses to anything organised by feminists)
do they put them on? Im sure you can tell me counter examples but I don't see it as a huge issue. I know one family where all the kids "have" to do tennis but that's the boys and girls. with my own I chose sports being a
mixture of individual and team and based on what I though they might be good at based on their physiques etc.
I know my kids school get it wrong sometimes because for example they make the boys and girls play soccer together but they boys don't like it because the girls aren't into as much so muh equality means all the kids are frustrated and bored so ignore gender at your peril.El_Duderino 09 wrote: »
You never said it's how they should be taught, you assumed it's the case that would encourage expect men to be providers.
The point about jobs isn't gender specific. I would find a woman with a career more attractive than the same woman who plans to sit around scratching​ her metaphorical balls all day, as a career. That's an entire personality difference between those two otherwise identical people.
Wealth has always been attractive. That's not gender specific.
it is different and its not a choice between a career and no career. Women tend to want men that earn similar or more than they do, men don't care so much. if you had a high earning man his choice wouldn't depend on the woman being a high earner whereas if a woman is a high earner she will more often than not want the man to be in her ballpark at least. do you know many cases of a female doctors marrying a male nurse? whereas switch the sexes and it sound more plausible. you certainly wouldn't sell many romance novels based on the first example
A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer
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