Fourth wave feminism.

Sweetemotion · 19-03-2017 12:51AM #1

What is all that about?

We have our national papers giving columns, to people like Louise O Niell and Rosemary Mc Cabe.

Both activists for Womens rights in Ireland and the Repeal the 8 campaign.

The only argument now in Ireland they have left, is the right to abortion.

After repeal the 8 is granted is that the end of feminism in Ireland as we all have equal rights?

DontThankMe · 19-03-2017 12:53AM

Sweetemotion wrote: »

What is all that about?

We have our national papers giving columns, to people like Louise O Niell and Rosemary Mc Cabe.

Both activists for Womens rights in Ireland and the Repeal the 8 campaign.

The only argument now in Ireland they have left, is the right to abortion.

After repeal the 8 is granted is that the end of feminism in Ireland as we all have equal rights?

No sir it will not be the end of feminism in Ireland. I believe the gender pay gap will be next on the list but I could be wrong.

Sweetemotion · 19-03-2017 12:53AM

DontThankMe wrote: »

No sir it will not be the end of feminism in Ireland. I believe the gender pay gap will be next on the list but I could be wrong.

What gender pay gap?

19-03-2017 12:54AM

What's fourth wave feminism ?

machiavellianme · 19-03-2017 12:56AM

DontThankMe wrote: »

No sir it will not be the end of feminism in Ireland. I believe the gender pay gap will be next on the list but I could be wrong.

Looking forward to some parity. Sick of seeing female colleagues getting a six month paid holiday to have a child while I'm slaving in the office with no option for the same.

Jack the Stripper · 19-03-2017 12:56AM

Is fourth generation like super Hd?

DontThankMe · 19-03-2017 12:56AM

Sweetemotion wrote: »

What gender pay gap?

This one

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/work/gender-pay-gap-in-ireland-has-widened-over-last-five-years-1.2983387

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/ireland-set-to-introduce-measures-to-close-the-gender-pay-gap-35516983.html

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/labour-proposes-bill-to-tackle-gender-pay-gap-780836.html

Sweetemotion · 19-03-2017 12:56AM

bubblypop wrote: »

What's fourth wave feminism ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-wave_feminism

Sweetemotion · 19-03-2017 12:59AM

DontThankMe wrote: »

This one

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/work/gender-pay-gap-in-ireland-has-widened-over-last-five-years-1.2983387

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/ireland-set-to-introduce-measures-to-close-the-gender-pay-gap-35516983.html

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/labour-proposes-bill-to-tackle-gender-pay-gap-780836.html

Work the same hours get the pay.

freshpopcorn · 19-03-2017 01:00AM

DontThankMe wrote: »

No sir it will not be the end of feminism in Ireland. I believe the gender pay gap will be next on the list but I could be wrong.

This is something I often wondered about the gender pay gap. Somebody told me in the past that the main reason for the gender pay gap is because women took more time for maternity leave or they took time to mind the kids at home and this meant they didn't build up the same amount of service as men and this is why the gap excised. Is this true?

machiavellianme · 19-03-2017 01:01AM

bubblypop wrote: »

What's fourth wave feminism ?

I think the first wave was when they had tea and crumpets and used to wave their little fingers. Then they moved on to waving their index fingers in agitation. Next it was the thumbs up wave once they got parity and now they're waving their middle fingers at anyone who'll listen because life's so unfair (or something).

Yamanoto · 19-03-2017 01:01AM

bubblypop wrote: »

What's fourth wave feminism ?

Mandatory beard, full bush & pits.

DontThankMe · 19-03-2017 01:05AM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

This is something I often wondered about the gender pay gap. Somebody told me in the past that the main reason for the gender pay gap is because women took more time for maternity leave or they took time to mind the kids at home and this meant they didn't build up the same amount of service as men and this is why the gap excised. Is this true?

To be honest with you I have a few friends that say the gender pay gap is a myth but, I haven't done enough research myself to make up my own mind so I can't really answer your question sorry.

Junkyard Tom · 19-03-2017 01:06AM

I wouldn't worry too much about it - it's just that in a surf session women surfers get to go on every fourth wave.

Sweetemotion · 19-03-2017 01:07AM

DontThankMe wrote: »

To be honest with you I have a few friends that say the gender pay gap is a myth but, I haven't done enough research myself to make up my own mind so I can't really answer your question sorry.

Listen to your friends.

buried · 19-03-2017 01:09AM

R.I.P.TIDE

andekwarhola · 19-03-2017 01:14AM

/heads back to chuck berry on you tube.

Richard Hillman · 19-03-2017 01:15AM

Jack the Stripper wrote: »

Is fourth generation like super Hd?

No it's like 3D. Sounds great but in the end, it just isnt as good as standard Def.

The_Valeyard · 19-03-2017 02:03AM

Fourth wave feminism wont be happy until all men are held as slaves deep in the mines of mars writing bad jokes for women.

B.A._Baracus · 19-03-2017 02:26AM

Feminism is bollocks...
Because out of all the cries you hear from Western Feminists you never hear them talk about how women are being treated in the middle east. God forbid they could help their fellow woman somewhere else in the world that actually needs women's rights :pac:

Mountainsandh · 19-03-2017 02:56AM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Feminism is bollocks...
Because out of all the cries you hear from Western Feminists you never hear them talk about how women are being treated in the middle east. God forbid they could help their fellow woman somewhere else in the world that actually needs women's rights :pac:

Ah but they do sometimes.
The worst is when I see feminists on Facebook staunchly defending Middle East women's right to wear Muslim coverings. No matter how you spin it, it just doesn't ad up in my view.

scoey · 19-03-2017 06:18AM

Next step after the current playing field is considered sufficiently "equal" is demanding reparations to make up for the ills of the distant past.
See liberals in America for examples.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 19-03-2017 10:38AM

What are the first three waves?

sashafierce · 19-03-2017 11:07AM

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mzungu · 19-03-2017 11:22AM

sashafierce wrote: »

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To be fair, it would not be a women's issue, so I don't believe one could expect them to fight that particular battle. But seeing as though the "wage gap" can be explained by women needing to take time off work to raise a family, when fathers rights do improve, that will do more to fix those discrepancies than any kind of social engineering quota system. That said, I think the fathers rights issue is one that needs to be fought by men themselves. Granted, there are organisations out there doing just that, but they mostly seem to be threading water (apart from the odd stunt here and there). I think they need to push these issues on politicians, because unless it becomes a vote winner, there is not a hope of it gaining any traction. I would be fairly sure that there is a high proportion of both sexes that would welcome fathers rights, so it is something that is quite achievable as long as there is a proper strategy involved.

y0ssar1an22 · 19-03-2017 11:39AM

if a female colleage of mine gets paid more, am i now entitled to a raise? not beciasue i deserve it, but because discrimination.

same **** as buying houses...if you dont agree with the wage dont take the job or negotaitae a better deal. this whole thought process is what leads you to socialism

johndaman66 · 19-03-2017 11:50AM

The whole gender pay gap is a load of nonsense. These studies and findings are crude and misleading. They do not make a comparison of hour versus hour which is the true reflection. Rather they focus on annual salaries which fail to take into account maternity leave; parental leave; time taken off to take the kiddies to the doctor/ hospital etc.

Also if big bouts of time are taken off career progression is logically going to suffer as a consequence. If a man and a woman have worked in the same industry for the same amount of time; both have gained the same industry experience and knowledge per hour worked except the woman has taken 2 or 3 bouts of extended mat leave and parental leave how could the woman expect to have progressed as far in her career as her male counterpart? Again these studies selectively choose to ignore and mask this aspect. Consequently if the woman hasn't progressed as high up the career ladder her take home pay wont be as high, as you could only expect.

As I'm aware men are now entitled to equal parental leave to women. However, in reality I get the impression men take a lot less parental leave to women which no doubt is a conscious decision between couples. Granted there are possibly a lot more single parent women than men out there but this is in part circumstantial and party because the courts will favour on the side of the woman if there is a custody battle all other aspects being equal.

arse..biscuits · 19-03-2017 11:53AM

If an employer can hire women to do the same work for way less pay, why would anyone hire men?

Mokuba · 19-03-2017 11:57AM

mzungu wrote: »

To be fair, it would not be a women's issue, so I don't believe one could expect them to fight that particular battle. But seeing as though the "wage gap" can be explained by women needing to take time off work to raise a family, when fathers rights do improve, that will do more to fix those discrepancies than any kind of social engineering quota system. That said, I think the fathers rights issue is one that needs to be fought by men themselves. Granted, there are organisations out there doing just that, but they mostly seem to be threading water (apart from the odd stunt here and there). I think they need to push these issues on politicians, because unless it becomes a vote winner, there is not a hope of it gaining any traction. I would be fairly sure that there is a high proportion of both sexes that would welcome fathers rights, so it is something that is quite achievable as long as there is a proper strategy involved.

Ask any feminist the definition of the word and they will mistakenly say - belief in equality between the sexes.

So by their own logic areas in which men are disadvantaged should be just as important. Unfortunately the vast majority of "feminists" couldn't care less about any male plight. If they were at least honest in their intentions it might be easier to have some respect for them.

Help!!!! · 19-03-2017 11:59AM

DontThankMe wrote: »

To be honest with you I have a few friends that say the gender pay gap is a myth but, I haven't done enough research myself to make up my own mind so I can't really answer your question sorry.

Of course its a myth, if a man & woman start work on the same day in a supermarket doing the same job, they both get paid the same hourly rate. If the woman leaves to start a family & stays out of work for say 5 years, if she was to go back to work in the same supermarket she cannot expect to be on the same wage as the man she started with. The mans wages have gone up because of wage increases over the time the woman was off.

Woodhenge · 19-03-2017 12:02PM

Fourth Wave Feminism is when 'First World Problems' went from being a joke to a fanatical movement.

Fourth wave feminism.

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