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Haven17 wrote: »

Hello, really hoping someone can help me with this! I'm looking for a double sided stove with external air supply suitable for use in a house with heat recovery ventilation. Its a new build, not passive but hoping to be as airtight as we can afford. I have contacted numerous stove suppliers and opinions seem to vary from one sales person to the next - especially in relation to having a wall vent in the rooms a stove may be installed in - why have HRV if this is the case. As it stands I have been unable to find a double sided stove with external air going directly to the fire box. Does anyone have experience on this, any and all advice greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Did you have any luck with sourcing one?

Forge83 wrote: »

If there is a stove there has to be a wall vent. Regardless of whether it is HRV or not.
Yes it's contradictory but that is what the building regulations state. It is for carbon monoxide safety.
Biggest selling free standing Double side stove with external air is probably the Boru Carrig Mor double. The only other one I am aware of is the Brightfire 20.
There are many other free standing double sided stoves but none with external air to the best of my knowledge.
I will have a look later if there is another option.
If it was an inset cassette there would be more options.....

Thanks for replying

Do you know if there is any genuine room sealed inset cassette options that will in a passive house with MHRV?

Looking to get views on standalone stove pricing. Looking for something in existing fireplace.

http://johnwalshfireplaces.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/free_standing_stove.jpg

its for a small sitting room measurements only for room heating not rads etc

3.07m x 5.07m


we currently have a standard fireplace will looking to get the fireplace ripped out,fireplace hole enlarged, the brick work done on the inside similar to pic and stove installed. I was at fireplace store today
and i was saying hoping to keep in budget of 2k all in install etc. I was told this was completely unrealistic i would be looking
3k at minimum which seems expensive to me? Am i being unrealistic on this

Eoghan25 wrote: »

Looking to get views on standalone stove pricing. Looking for something in existing fireplace.

http://johnwalshfireplaces.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/free_standing_stove.jpg

its for a small sitting room measurements only for room heating not rads etc

3.07m x 5.07m


we currently have a standard fireplace will looking to get the fireplace ripped out,fireplace hole enlarged, the brick work done on the inside similar to pic and stove installed. I was at fireplace store today
and i was saying hoping to keep in budget of 2k all in install etc. I was told this was completely unrealistic i would be looking
3k at minimum which seems expensive to me? Am i being unrealistic on this

2k including the stove?
Are you lining the chimney?

i was hoping that stove would be included with 2k am i dreaming?

There is existing lining i will be getting inspected and will decide based on that

Eoghan25 wrote: »

i was hoping that stove would be included with 2k am i dreaming?

There is existing lining i will be getting inspected and will decide based on that

Not realistic to be honest. 3k seems reasonable including the stove and materials.
What county you based in?

deniseb1000 wrote: »

Hello, I am hoping someone can give me some advise on choosing wood burning cassette stove to heat the sitting room which is 11ft wide * 17 ft * 8ft high. The heat output calculator says I need 4kw but there isn't very much at all in that category and even less in the style I like. I really like the Kratki Jas 7kw and the Henley Athens 500 styles. I have had a couple of companies out and they are giving me conflicting advise. One guy told me I would be fine with a 7kw stove in the room ( he said I could go up to 8kw if I wanted!) and just open the door but the other guy told me if I go more than 5kw I will crack my ceiling and warp my doors with the heat! I don't want to make a mistake on this as it is a lot of money so if anyone has any experience on these stoves or have other recommendations I really would appreciate the advice.

Why go wood burning? Multi fuels are handy to have in case you want to burn coal (overnight burns etc). I think the comment you got about cracking ceilings and warping doors is over the top, especially for a 5kw stove. We have a Boru 7kw casette / insert and it has been doing great for the past 18 months. It heats a large living room, and the adjoining kitchen too. With all doors closed, and at full tilt, it will get the living room to 27c after a few hours, which is uncomfortably hot but I wanted to see what it could do. Remember - with any 7kw stove - you don't have to run it full of fuel, at full heat. I would definitely get more professional advice. You should read my post about insert stoves from 18 months ago where we had a bad experience. Proper and safe installation is so important.

BoardsMember wrote: »

Anyone know if I could get an inset stove into this fireplace?

The short answer is no.
The timber surround overhead is going to be too close for safety. There are a small number of stoves which allow a 300mm gap but it looks like that is not there.
What is the width of the opening? If not 16" minimum then the tiled insert would have to be changed. The metal hood would have to be cut off.
In short it would be easier and cheaper to replace the whole fireplace.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I would hope the person would go to installer anyway

See attachment for measurement. I meant to attach to original post

They asked the question here though and you gave out false information.
Also please ignore the dimensions you have posted as they are not correct!!
That is for one specific Inset stove. Every Inset stove should have their own tested distance to combustibles.
I think it's best you refrain from posting on stove installation as you obviously don't know.

Yes that looks like Stanley cara inset.
Stove is 600mm high plus 550mm above...not many timber surrounds going to have over 1meter to hearth .
So in this case timber would have to be removed in my opinion

Just wondering has anyone got opinions on the heat output of a Cara + insert stove. I seen some posters saying the non boiler version gives good heat but I am wondering about this one. I want to fit it into an existing fireplace. My living room is 15 foot 3" by 11 foot 10". Some people are advising against an insert saying they don't give out the same heat but I am unsure.
Also, if anyone has any other suggestions for a solution that doesn't come too far out from the wall I'd be interested to hear. That is the reason I was looking at an insert was for space. I don't think I need a large stove though.
Thanks.

Forge83 wrote: »

I thought the Cara plus was an insert boiler stove?
The Cara room heater insert are a very good stove. Mixed reviews on the boiler version however.
Your room size really only requires a 5kw but no real harm in going up an extra 1kw to the Cara.
People who advised they give less heat are incorrect. Whether it is insert or freestanding the stated kilowatt is the heat given to the room if fitted correctly.
Loads of options of insert stoves around that size but if you like the Cara you should have no problems.

Yes the Cara Plus is a boiler stove and it is a boiler one that I am after and I am just concerned how this one would heat the room. Looking online it says it gives a maximum of 3.6kw to the room. The Cara insert without a boiler gives 6.5kw to the room. I am just concerned how the Cara plus would perform and it sounds like your saying this one has got mixed reviews?
If anyone has any other suggestions for a boiler insert stove or a not too large boiler stove that doesn't take up much space I'd be interested to hear?

The Cara Inset boiler wouldn't be one I would recommend as I think there are many better Inset boiler stoves.
However all Inset boiler stoves give low heat to the room.
Listed below in order of what I believe are the best 3.

1. Stratford EB12 Inset boiler
2. Hamlet Solution 12 Inset boiler
3. Henley Achill 17 Inset boiler

Others on the market include the Pierce Glas Inset boiler, Hamco Morgan Inset boiler, Alpha Inset boiler, Graphite Inset boiler, Boru Chieftan.
There are a few others from Heritage, Mulberry, Blacksmith and Heat Design but I wouldn't rate any of them.

The 5/6kw Inset stove market has loads of great choice as it is the biggest category of stove in Ireland at present.
The biggest seller is one design of stove sold by several companies as it is a fantastic stove.They are all the same stove with a different door.
Henley Apollo/ Heritage Pollmore/ Mazona Portland/ Casttec Cougar/ Mazona Tucson/ Heritage Dunmore.
Others to consider would be the Heat Design Vitae, Henley Achill, Stanley Cara,Graphite 5 Inset.
There are many others but that is most of the best ones.

There are some great high end stoves too but I don't think they are worth the price in this category of stove.
Charnwood C Four
Di Lusso R4
Esse 301se