"Significant" numbers of babies remains actually found

09-03-2017 05:39PM

sondagefaux wrote: »

If I punch you in the face, I am responsible for punching you in the face.

If the authorities know that I punched you in the face, but did nothing to punish me, they are responsible for not punishing me.

If the authorities didn't know that I punched you in the face, and did nothing to punish me, they are not responsible because they weren't aware.

The nuns and other staff of these mother and child homes are responsible for any abuse and neglect they imposed on the mothers and infants in their care.

The state is responsible to the extent that it knew of these abuses and neglect and did nothing to stop them or punish them.

Where the state knew, it's responsible.

Where the state didn't know, it's not responsible.

Pretty simple really.

It was the state's responsibility to know, was it not?

They had doctors carry out inspections, did they not?

Snickers Man · 09-03-2017 05:51PM

Samaris wrote: »

Why are a small number of people so hung up on "it's not a septic tank, it's a part of a septic tank system the exact use of which is uncertain!"? Either is a bit of an affront to human decency when it comes to burying dead children. And more importantly, eight hundred children died there, apparently due to neglect. ........So really, focusing on what part of a septic tank system it is all sounds a bit pedantic.

It seems to me there are three central issues to discuss and disect with regard to this story. They are separate but interconnected. And, as I have said all along, I think we would do well to discuss them as calmly and dispassionately as possible. Although I fully accept it is difficult for many to do so. Passions are running high, but that is not always conducive to rational discussion leading to common-sense conclusions.

The three issues, taking them in chronological order of occurrence to the participants in the story, would seem to me to be:

1) The parental rights of the mothers in this home to their own children. Were they infringed according to the law at the time and if so to what extent and to what end? Were mothers put under undue pressure to give up their children? What were their prospects if they refused to do so, and indeed were they able to do so if that was their wish?

2) The physical treatment, including medical treatment, of all residents--mothers and babies--of the home? Was brutality endemic? Was adequate healthcare denied to some mothers and babies as part of a deliberate policy? Were some babies neglected to the point of death? How well did treatment of inmates compare with other institutions? Was the death rate completely out of scale to what might have been expected given the standards of the time?

3) The disposal of bodies of babies and/or mothers after death. Were all legal requirements followed? Did any ceremony attend the interrment of dead bodies? Why was there no public acknowledgement of the burial ground and commemoration of the bodies within?

The last is perhaps the least important in harsh secular terms because surely the focus should be on treatment of the living and minimising of risks of any people dying in such places, rather than what happened to the remains once they were dead. However, this is the most lurid aspect of the story and I would contend ( go on: prove me wrong) that the "babies in a septic tank" motif was what caused the story to spread so rapidly around the world. The loaded phrase "mass graves" has also been used to colour perceptions of what sort of institution the home was.

This is also the part of the story which damns the church most seriously given its precious approach to its own death rituals and its condescension towards those of other faiths. In particular, in Ireland, observant Catholics at the time were forbidden under pain of excommunication from attending the funeral services of protestant friends, neighbours and even relatives.

Since this story first broke, the church has issued an instruction on how Catholics can and cannot treat the cremated remains of their loved ones; cremation, although now sanctioned, must still be followed by interring the ashes in a consecrated place. No more keeping grandpa on the mantelpiece or spreading his ashes along his favourite country walk or in the goalmouth of his favourite football team. You've got to inter him in a sacred place.

Why were the dead of Tuam not afforded similar sanctity in interrment? Why was there no memorial with their names? Feck it, even the thousands who were blown to bits on the Somme and have no known grave are commemorated on walls, gates, obelisks and what have you. People know when and where they died and to what end. Why were the Tuam babies treated differently?

Moving backwards to the question of treatment of the inmates: there is a clear desire on the part of some posters here, and beyond, to believe that there was a policy of neglect bordering on the murderous, to preserve the healthy bonny desirable children for "sale" to adoptive families and to condemn the others to slow death.

There does not seem to be any prima facie evidence for this but maby an inquiry could find some. And then again maybe not. Nobody is suggesting that these places were desirable, even by the standards of the time. And our society stands indicted, in retrospect, for tolerating a situation in which unintentional or unwanted pregnancies resulted in such spartan, to say the very least, treatment of the mothers in question.

Is it enough to say we've moved on and "this sort of thing couldn't happen now" or is there some retribution necessary and if so, who should be accountable? And why?

And finally, coming to the issue of parental rights. This is the one where we have to be most dispassionate and careful because this is the issue that is still with us and indeed will become more important as time goes on.

When you shift parental rights and responsibilities for a child from its natural parent(s) to somebody else you are entering a moral, legal, emotional and to some extent financial minefield. That was as true then as it is today. The thing is it is still with us today and will likely only become a more important issue in the near future.

Our society is increasingly one in which children for adoption will be in demand. The greater emancipation of women, resulting in career women postponing motherhood until later in life is a recognised social fact. As is the medical fact that one of the most reliable indicators for a successful pregnancy is the age of the mother. The later you leave it; the harder it is. Add in too that same-sex marriage and parenthood, achievable only through adoption or surrogacy, is now a legal reality.

Both of these social changes increase demand for adoptions. And it can hardly be gainsaid that many of the pregnancies which saw women incarcerated in Tuam would not happen today given ready access to contraception and the fact that an abortion is even now only a Ryanair flight away. Demand for adoption up; availability of children for adoption down. Consequences?

When is it permissible to adopt another person's baby? Is anybody who facilitates such a transaction a "baby trafficker"? Is it wrong to charge for arranging such a service? We need to answer these questions. Carefully.

Otherwise in another 20, 30 or 50 years the next generation of outraged zealots will be holding us up to THEIR standards and be demanding the heads of those of us who remain as restitution.

Something to think about.

There's an interesting article about the reaction (over reaction?) to the whole situation in The Irish Times

nhunter100 · 09-03-2017 06:09PM

please helpThank YOU wrote:

you are 100 per cent rite I know of a women who has 7 foster paid children and she earns 353 euros a week peer child x that by 7 =2471 euros a week that is this =128492 euros a year now the same women is landlord she evicted very young children and there families out on the road on christmas eve the word to me care/ is Fake and its about Money Money and now a lot of her rich friends are doing the same and I know of one case where the are SUBCONTRACT ING the children to people who are not foster paid .

As a former foster parent the majority of your post is nonsense and I would add some is a downright lie.

please helpThank YOU · 09-03-2017 06:23PM

nhunter100 wrote: »

As a former foster parent the majority of your post is nonsense and I would add some is a downright lie.

So Grace/Anne in Waterford is a downright lie/ nonsense and the not have 48 other foster paid children at 352 euros per week per child so do the sums 48 foster paid children at 352 euros a week = 878592 euros a year is a downright lie/nosense and sum paid foster paid parents are not in it for the money is a downright lie /nonsense? tuam galway is that a lie /nonsense? is what happened to garda Maurice Mccabe a lie /nonsense? mcbreaty dongal is that a lie /nonsense?

nhunter100 · 09-03-2017 07:13PM

please helpThank YOU wrote:

So Grace in Waterford is a downright lie? and sum paid foster paid parents are not in it for the money is a downright lie?

What happened to Grace is beyond terrible and hopefully those responsible for her appalling treatment will be dealt with approximately. You claimed foster parents are sub contracting, that is a lie. Also in my experience no foster carer has 7 children placed with them. Lastly I will let you in on something, in the case of a couple one partner must remain at home to look at the foster child or children. You are however correct about the sum of money Foster carers recieve. However a foster child normally has far higher costs attached than a child in their natural family. Lastly any body in it for the money are few and far between as the issues that come with fostering are very stressful and make whatever money is involved an insignificant consideration.

nhunter100 · 09-03-2017 07:20PM

please helpThank YOU wrote:

tuam galway is that a lie /nonsense? is what happened to garda Maurice Mccabe a lie /nonsense? mcbreaty dongal is that a lie /nonsense?

The rest of this post has what got to do with your claim about Foster carers? None of this was mentioned in the post I responded to.

The Rape of Lucretia · 09-03-2017 07:27PM

Graces7 wrote: »

Inaccurate gobbledyegook excuses. There were no high ideals going on here. same as with the plight of the travellers

Just middle class scorn. The old push the dirt under the carpet tactic.

It was a push it under the carpet solution alright, but made legit at the time because everybody agreed to play it that way and didnt see it as pushing it under the carpet. It thought it was a genuine cleanup of a messy problem.

The Rape of Lucretia · 09-03-2017 07:29PM

Graces7 wrote: »

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Excuse me? It is my generation.

So we also had and you also have no moral standards? Cheap? :eek:

And people's views change. What they considered acceptable decades ago may indeed strike them, or you, as not unacceptable. It isnt really no moral standards, but different, of moral-fluidity.

please helpThank YOU · 09-03-2017 07:38PM

nhunter100 wrote: »

What happened to Grace is beyond terrible and hopefully those responsible for her appalling treatment will be dealt with approximately. You claimed foster parents are sub contracting, that is a lie. Also in my experience no foster carer has 7 children placed with them. Lastly I will let you in on something, in the case of a couple one partner must remain at home to look at the foster child or children. You are however correct about the sum of money Foster carers recieve. However a foster child normally has far higher costs attached than a child in their natural family. Lastly any body in it for the money are few and far between as the issues that come with fostering are very stressful and make whatever money is involved an insignificant consideration.

The Foster paid parents who had Grace/Anne in the southeast/Waterford had 48 other children in foster paid Children in there care its all over the News. now thats a lot more than 7? I said I know of sum a foster paid parent who SUB CONTRACTING there foster child yes I did say this its True what I Say. as she is working on the quite cash in the hand as her husband is out working full time she has a Neighbour minding the foster child on the quite who she pays Cash to this Neighbour SUB CONTRACTING the foster child the if the hse /tusla found about this the would not be very happy.I knew a foster paid family who had 7 Children at the time the lived in a very big house and where very Rich Powerful people

nhunter100 · 09-03-2017 07:39PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote:

It was a push it under the carpet solution alright, but made legit at the time because everybody agreed to play it that way and didnt see it as pushing it under the carpet. It thought it was a genuine cleanup of a messy problem.

'Everybody agreed to play it that way' if that was the case why did the religious orders seek to deny and hide their actions if everybody agreed? The falsifying of death certs from some Mother and baby homes wouldn't have been necessary if your bs claim was true. Again seeking to spread the blame wide and thin.

09-03-2017 07:45PM

nhunter100 wrote: »

What happened to Grace is beyond terrible and hopefully those responsible for her appalling treatment will be dealt with approximately. You claimed foster parents are sub contracting, that is a lie. Also in my experience no foster carer has 7 children placed with them. Lastly I will let you in on something, in the case of a couple one partner must remain at home to look at the foster child or children. You are however correct about the sum of money Foster carers recieve. However a foster child normally has far higher costs attached than a child in their natural family. Lastly any body in it for the money are few and far between as the issues that come with fostering are very stressful and make whatever money is involved an insignificant consideration.

That would be in your experience, then - because I know of foster carers who have had 7 children placed with them. In fact, that particular family received grants to build an 10 or 12 (can't remember which, exactly!) bedroom house to accommodate the number of foster children they had in their care.

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

It was a push it under the carpet solution alright, but made legit at the time because everybody agreed to play it that way and didnt see it as pushing it under the carpet. It thought it was a genuine cleanup of a messy problem.

Everybody did not agree to play it that way, exactly.

They didn't do anything about the plight of the mothers and children, so, in that sense, it was more or less made legit - but some people did raise the children in the family home. So, some of them weren't satisfied to play it that way.

There's no "one size fits all" solution, or explanation, here, to be rational about it.

The circumstances of the families involved varied - though it would be very safe to say the majority were from poor families, since most families were poor for much of that time.

About the only other thing you could say for that time period, with any degree of certainty, was that unmarried motherhood was almost universally agreed as a "shameful" thing.
The fathers, of course, were regarded as fine, upstanding young men.

As someone said earlier, rape or incest weren't even considered. For that matter, where those things did occur, the girls probably wouldn't have been believed, anyway.

nhunter100 · 09-03-2017 07:47PM

Deleted User wrote:

That would be in your experience, then - because I know of foster carers who have had 7 children placed with them. In fact, that particular family received grants to build an 10 or 12 (can't remember which, exactly!) bedroom house to accommodate the number of foster children they had in their care.

My experience and dealing with the system and the professionals in it is what makes me believe you are being very economical with the turth.

please helpThank YOU · 09-03-2017 07:48PM

please helpThank YOU wrote: »

you are 100 per cent rite I know of a women who has 7 foster paid children and she earns 353 euros a week peer child x that by 7 =2471 euros a week that is this =128492 euros a year now the same women is landlord she evicted very young children and there families out on the road on christmas eve the word to me care/ is Fake and its about Money Money:mad: and now a lot of her rich friends are doing the same and I know of one case where the are SUBCONTRACT ING the children to people who are not foster paid .

this is what I said Nhunter

nhunter100 · 09-03-2017 07:49PM

please helpThank YOU wrote:

The Foster paid parents who had Grace/Anne in the southeast/Waterford had 48 other children in foster paid Children in there care its all over the News. now thats a lot more than 7? I said I know of sum a foster paid parent who SUB CONTRACTING the foster child yes I did say this True as she is working on the quite cash in the hand as her husband is out working full time she has a Neighbour minding the foster child on who she pays Cash to this is SUB CONTRACTING the if the hse /tusla found about this the would not be very happy.I knew a foster paid family who had 7 Children at the time the lived in a very big house and where very very very Rich Powerful people

You are using one case to attempt to cast a smear on all foster parents. If you have an issue report it. Also turn off the cap lock please. Hard to read your posts tbh.

jameorahiely · 09-03-2017 07:49PM

please helpThank YOU wrote: »

you are 100 per cent rite I know of a women who has 7 foster paid children and she earns 353 euros a week peer child x that by 7 =2471 euros a week that is this =128492 euros a year now the same women is landlord she evicted very young children and there families out on the road on christmas eve the word to me care/ is Fake and its about Money Money:mad: and now a lot of her rich friends are doing the same and I know of one case where the are SUBCONTRACT ING the children to people who are not foster paid .

353 euro per child per week. Grown adults don't get that much. Fostering is a money racket.

nhunter100 · 09-03-2017 07:51PM

please helpThank YOU wrote:

this is what I said

So why did you ask me about McCabe or Mcbearty?

nhunter100 · 09-03-2017 07:54PM

jameorahiely wrote:

Fostering is a money racket.

So why isn't everyone doing it? Why does the HSE run so many campaigns to try and get people to become foster carers. Like it's so easy give it a try yourself. Deal with a damaged child 24/7 and tell me how easy it is. No child is placed in foster care for fun. They have issues and these need to be addressed and have costs associated with them.

please helpThank YOU · 09-03-2017 08:07PM

nhunter100 wrote: »

As a former foster parent the majority of your post is nonsense and I would add some is a downright lie.

this what you said said to me nhunter Thats Like Garda commissioner Martin Callinan Calling Garda whilstlblower Maurice Mcabe disgusting for telling the truth what you said to Me and that is why the likes of tuam galway and other scandals keep on happening because people who tell the Truth about the underworld in Ireland/irish state

nhunter100 · 09-03-2017 08:12PM

please helpThank YOU wrote:

this what you said said to me nhunter Thats Like Garda commissioner Martin Callinan Calling Garda whilstlblower Maurice Mcabe disgusting for telling the truth what you said to Me and that is why the likes of tuam galway and other scandals keep on happening because who be who tell the Truth about the underworld in Ireland/state

You made claims about fostering which I have told you is nonsense and some of what you claim is a lie. The rest of what you are posting tbh is incoherent nonsense. The words you put in caps do not make your posts factual or more compelling in case you think it does.

please helpThank YOU · 09-03-2017 09:29PM

nhunter100 wrote: »

You made claims about fostering which I have told you is nonsense and some of what you claim is a lie. The rest of what you are posting tbh is incoherent nonsense. The words you put in caps do not make your posts factual or more compelling in case you think it does.

The had 7 brother and sisters they where all siblings the foster paid family had so should the break up the 7 of them as the all wanted to stick together at time the where all sibling so why is this a lie/nonsense? the year was 1991 to 1993 7 foster paid children all brothers and sisters they were all siblings you could not break them up as the wanted to stay together that was there wishes as siblings so check out your facts first and make little of my post .and you claiming that my post was a lie and nonsense. back up what your saying post it

SEPT 23 1989 · 09-03-2017 09:32PM

Still no gardai at the scene?

Sure we haven't got the skills to be going anywhere near that

corrupt kip

nhunter100 · 09-03-2017 09:57PM

please helpThank YOU wrote:

The had 7 brother and sisters they where all siblings the foster paid family had so should the break up the 7 of them as the all wanted to stick together at time the where all sibling so why is this a lie/nonsense? the year was 1991 to 1993 7 foster paid children all brothers and sisters they were all siblings you could not break them up as the wanted to stay together that was there wishes as siblings so check out your facts first and make little of my post .and you claiming that my post was a lie and nonsense. back up what your saying post it

Check out your facts first? Pray tell how does one check out facts with no names, no location just for starters. You have an issue I suggest you contact the relevant authorities.

The Raptor · 09-03-2017 11:06PM

Close to 800 baby names that were buried in tuam were printed in the Galway advertiser. Some of them a day old. These were the babies that survived birth. What about the ones that were stillborn or mother's dying during birth.

And this was just one area. This was happening all over the country. What dirty, evil, rotten cnuts those nuns were. Meant to be doing the work of God. Killing babies, was that the work of God?

09-03-2017 11:12PM

The Raptor wrote: »

Close to 800 baby names that were buried in tuam were printed in the Galway advertiser. Some of them a day old. These were the babies that survived birth. What about the ones that were stillborn or mother's dying during.

And this was just one area. This was happening all over the country. What dirty, evil, rotten cnuts those nuns were. Meant to be doing the work of God. Killing babies, was that the work of God?

It's incomprehensible how such evil could exist amongst mankind, I suspect their will be more unfortunately on this matter... I just read that the war of independence was responsible for approx. 2000 deaths, I hope the deaths of what are potentially thousands of mothers and babies will be remembered with just as much hunger for justice..

Even if there were only one baby found, that one baby deserves the same treatment as any other citizen, as far as I'm concerned due to the unusual circumstances in which those bodies have been found every single one of those deaths should be treated as suspicious and investigated in the same way we would investigate a murder.

The Rape of Lucretia · 09-03-2017 11:57PM

222233 wrote: »

Even if there were only one baby found, that one baby deserves the same treatment as any other citizen, as far as I'm concerned due to the unusual circumstances in which those bodies have been found every single one of those deaths should be treated as suspicious and investigated in the same way we would investigate a murder.

Really. Its time to get a grip. The sensible course is to let bygones be bygones and no heat injustice on tragedy. Ireland is a better country now. The past cannot be revisited and corrected. Decisions, policies, social decisions, were made it a particular time and place, and are of a certain situation. Let them be that. And we move on grateful that Ireland has evolved for the better.

pilly · 10-03-2017 12:13AM

please helpThank YOU wrote:

The Foster paid parents who had Grace/Anne in the southeast/Waterford had 48 other children in foster paid Children in there care its all over the News. now thats a lot more than 7? I said I know of sum a foster paid parent who SUB CONTRACTING there foster child yes I did say this its True what I Say. as she is working on the quite cash in the hand as her husband is out working full time she has a Neighbour minding the foster child on the quite who she pays Cash to this Neighbour SUB CONTRACTING the foster child the if the hse /tusla found about this the would not be very happy.I knew a foster paid family who had 7 Children at the time the lived in a very big house and where very Rich Powerful people

You seem to know a lot about cases that should have been reported to TUSLA. Have you reported them?

please helpThank YOU · 10-03-2017 03:12AM

pilly wrote: »

You seem to know a lot about cases that should have been reported to TUSLA. Have you reported them?

Yes I am going to call them Tusla and tell them what I know .our may be write to them .

ChikiChiki · 10-03-2017 04:28AM

I hear people trying to go easy on the church saying the babies died of illness etc.

The stats don't lie you fupping idiots. The mortality rates at these homes were way out of sync with the norm.

Anyone who makes an attempt to excuse these deaths is reprehensible.

Ireland is a shambles. Not a Garda investigation in sight. The younger generation, 35s and under need to take control of the country and fast.

Graces7 · 10-03-2017 06:27AM

Deleted User wrote: »

It was the state's responsibility to know, was it not?

They had doctors carry out inspections, did they not?

Post you were replying to' but the state DID know. Again I advise, read Ryan and Murphy reports, all online. They knew. All of it.

Sofiztikated wrote: »

“Anyway, if you stop tellin' people it's all sorted out afer they're dead, they might try sorting it all out while they're alive. ”

Interesting non and anti Christian response as are the thanks. Thank you. Sad that you do not know these things.

WHat do you think confession even in non RC churches who have a General Confession in services is about?

Deleted User wrote: »

The boat absolutely needs rocking. There are a lot of boats that need rocking still.

But some here would prefer to shout all about their justified indignation, as long as it doesn't involve them trying to do anything useful themselves - and in 20, or 30 years time, the same people will be baying for justice again, but never question whether they could have done anything to help justice along.

I notice those same people are so unquestionably right (in their own minds, anyway) about what they say, that they never actually really consider what the victims want, or believe.

I don't know about the penitence angle.

I've seen two different priests in tears on the altar about the abuse scandals. Good priests, that never hurt anyone.

Then, I've heard of priests defending known abusers on the altar.

I don't think we can honestly judge all the clergy the same.
Some should be ashamed of themselves, and aren't, and others, who have done nothing wrong, are the ones who do feel ashamed.
Still others seem to think that they are the only ones qualified to judge:rolleyes:.

I haven't spoken to a nun in years, and can't really say anything about what they think. I'd guess their attitudes are about as varied as the priests - but I can't say for certain.

Sadly they all knew what was going on. Anyone who objected openly was ejected, usually within 24 hours, on the street, literally.

Many stayed because they hoped and believed they could.. dilute or lessen the abuse and many did just that. Many of the survivors, in the reports, speak of such Sisters. Of kindness shown.

I have in all my years in Ireland rarely met a priest and I have met many, who will even look you in the face.

They all knew. Ireland is such a small place.

nhunter100 wrote: »

As a former foster parent the majority of your post is nonsense and I would add some is a downright lie.

No! That is what YOU would like to be true not what is. Three wise monkey syndrome once again. Same names too :rolleyes:

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

It was a push it under the carpet solution alright, but made legit at the time because everybody agreed to play it that way and didnt see it as pushing it under the carpet. It thought it was a genuine cleanup of a messy problem.

Worse than that, and only done to what they called "the lower classes" . I saw this on the island, where they were terrified of anyone in authority. One lady, lovely kind person, told me that no one else dared speak up for me in case they got treated as I was being treated ie left with no medical care.

One law for them another for us "underlings". I went from being in authority to being an "underling" so I know the syndrome well.

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

And people's views change. What they considered acceptable decades ago may indeed strike them, or you, as not unacceptable. It isnt really no moral standards, but different, of moral-fluidity.

Hilarious expression! roflol!!!!!!!!!! And totally and utterly erroneous and immoral. There is right and there is wrong. These basics do not alter. What was done was wrong to any civilised person... AH THERE IT IS!

Any society that abuses its young? Uncivilised, barbaric.. at whatever time in history

And we have now fresh revelations of similar baby-dumping in the 70s in Tuam

And someone elsewhere reminded me of the Irish Constitution and its commitment to care for "ALL CHILDREN"

Remind me what year that was?

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Really. Its time to get a grip. The sensible course is to let bygones be bygones and no heat injustice on tragedy. Ireland is a better country now. The past cannot be revisited and corrected. Decisions, policies, social decisions, were made it a particular time and place, and are of a certain situation. Let them be that. And we move on grateful that Ireland has evolved for the better.

Oh how convenient! Thankfully there is no such plan .. FOR THE BETTER? ANd I make no apologies for caps.

Sweep it all under the carpet; while survivors and relatives are still alive and in pain? Some improvement that is!

This is not distant past. Within living memory.

A parallel from Mother Teresa..

A Canadian doctor went to visit one of her homes.

The babies were in poor condition. Two to a cot, worn out nappies.

The doctor went home and got together with medical friends and sent a large amount of money to that home.

Then they went back to that home.

Same bad conditions and while they were there a baby died of malnutrition,

The Sisters at that place had never seen the money; was with the Order as is all the money she raised and in the Vatican Bank

http://www.srai.org/mother-teresa-where-are-her-millions/

Note the date please.

And this is praiseworthy?

so the orders here got kudos? and still are being defended?

Living rich...

Bullocks · 10-03-2017 06:39AM

Graces7 wrote: »

Interesting non and anti Christian response as are the thanks. Thank you. Sad that you do not know these things.

WHat do you think confession even in non RC churches who have a General Confession in services is about?

What is confession really about ? Wonder did these nuns actually confess their real sins ?

"Significant" numbers of babies remains actually found

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