Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

Mr E · 08-03-2017 02:04PM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

but they are then competing with mobile.

Give me Zelda over Candy Crush any day.

madmoe · 08-03-2017 02:05PM

Mr E wrote: »

Give me Zelda over Candy Crush any day.

Here, here!!

Chardee MacDennis · 08-03-2017 02:21PM

I have no desire to see Netflix, etc on the Switch. Keep the OS light and quick please. I have a phone, laptop, ipad, tv, and xbox that can do Netflix, i don't need another device.

sligeach · 08-03-2017 02:28PM

Don’t read too much into Nintendo Switch’s big launch numbers
Strong opening weekend is necessary, but not sufficient, for long-term success.

https://arstechnica.co.uk/gaming/2017/03/nintendo-switch-launch-sales-analysis/

Very interesting article.

VinLieger · 08-03-2017 02:33PM

sligeach wrote: »

Don’t read too much into Nintendo Switch’s big launch numbers
Strong opening weekend is necessary, but not sufficient, for long-term success.

https://arstechnica.co.uk/gaming/2017/03/nintendo-switch-launch-sales-analysis/

Very interesting article.

We get it your not a fan..... enough with the debbie downer stuff for a bit, do you have a google alert specifically for negative switch articles or something?

earthwormjack · 08-03-2017 02:36PM

sligeach wrote: »

Don’t read too much into Nintendo Switch’s big launch numbers
Strong opening weekend is necessary, but not sufficient, for long-term success.

https://arstechnica.co.uk/gaming/2017/03/nintendo-switch-launch-sales-analysis/

Very interesting article.

I think the same author published a similar article regarding PS4/Xbox One on launch. It's a bit of a nothing article imo.

Digital Solitude · 08-03-2017 02:50PM

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I think it's more a case of Nintendo need to not be competing with Sony and MS. They need to carve out that niche to get this off the ground. Being the only portable offering should help but they are then competing with mobile.

Are they competing with mobile though?

How many mobile games cost 99c or less? They come as part of a device most people already own. The €330 Switch with €50+ games isn't in that market either, not even close to competing.

Unless we have differing views on the mobile market but afaik it's 99% freeium/99c crap and most of the rest would be very limited in scope, compared to even small Switch games.

They're solely in the handheld market with home gaming capabilities to me, Nintendo now compete with the PS Vita.

sligeach · 08-03-2017 02:51PM

VinLieger wrote: »

We get it your not a fan..... enough with the debbie downer stuff for a bit, do you have a google alert specifically for negative switch articles or something?

You have to take the rough with the smooth. The Washington Post article was overall positive despite their headline and line of questioning. I guess I shouldn't have posted the positive Japanese sales either.

pcadhain · 08-03-2017 02:52PM

VinLieger wrote: »

We get it your not a fan..... enough with the debbie downer stuff for a bit, do you have a google alert specifically for negative switch articles or something?

He posts positive and negative news. It's just that there's more bad news than good out there right now. And as for Retrogamer saying the Crowbcat video is made of people damaging their consoles looking for views, the amount of views don't add up to anywhere near enough revenue to buy a copy of Bomberman, let alone another Switch. Take a look at the source videos (there are more being added) and you'll find many people in the comments with similar problems.

08-03-2017 03:28PM

In fairness the crowbbat video is just a compilation of all the Switch problems he could find on YouTube, all devices have launch issues, some worse than others (hi Galaxy Note 3!) so I'm not going to let a YouTube video get to me, even though I am having a some issues with mine anyway...

In fairness to Sligeach, he posts the good and the bad on here...

Star Lord · 08-03-2017 03:39PM

sligeach wrote: »

The XB1 in Japan is snookered and can't catch a break. They made a balls of it. Cue the jokes.

Well played sir, well played!

VinLieger · 08-03-2017 03:46PM

pcadhain wrote: »

He posts positive and negative news. It's just that there's more bad news than good out there right now. And as for Retrogamer saying the Crowbcat video is made of people damaging their consoles looking for views, the amount of views don't add up to anywhere near enough revenue to buy a copy of Bomberman, let alone another Switch. Take a look at the source videos (there are more being added) and you'll find many people in the comments with similar problems.

Of course theres more bad news cus bad news can be made into lovely clickbait headlines.

Im more pointing out its been out for less than a week so any articles claiming its a massive success or failure cus of this or that are weeks if not months premature.

Nollog · 08-03-2017 03:53PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Of course theres more bad news cus bad news can be made into lovely clickbait headlines.

Im more pointing out its been out for less than a week so any articles claiming its a massive success or failure cus of this or that are weeks if not months premature.

The wiiu had fantastic launch sales. It fell off quickly.

08-03-2017 03:56PM

Everyone just went and forgot RROD?

Probably the biggest recall in any machines history!

The PS2 had fan and DVD issues also iirc....

Of course now that we have the internet and a voice on the internet with the likes of social media, these things tend to get amplified....

VinLieger · 08-03-2017 03:57PM

/\/ollog wrote: »

The wiiu had fantastic launch sales. It fell off quickly.

Notice what I said in my post

VinLieger wrote: »

Of course theres more bad news cus bad news can be made into lovely clickbait headlines.

Im more pointing out its been out for less than a week so any articles claiming its a massive success or failure cus of this or that are weeks if not months premature.

CiDeRmAn · 08-03-2017 05:07PM

Fieldog wrote: »

Everyone just went and forgot RROD?

Probably the biggest recall in any machines history!

The PS2 had fan and DVD issues also iirc....

Of course now that we have the internet and a voice on the internet with the likes of social media, these things tend to get amplified....

People who post "Truth!!!" typically leave out actual empirical data that doesn't suit their narrative.
So, the massive ongoing disaster that was the internal design of the 360, only better by comparison but still poor PS3, dying lasers of the PS and PS2, the issues with the XB1 drive as well, these are left out.
Nintendo hardware seems to be comparatively robust, NES edge connector aside, with the Famicom, Snes, N64, GC, Wii and WiiU, not to mention their portable devices, all still chugging away.
And I've personal experience of every one of those devices having a failure, bar the XB1.

Nollog · 08-03-2017 05:07PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Notice what I said in my post

We're not allowed cite previous console generation statistics. Got it.

VinLieger · 08-03-2017 05:39PM

/\/ollog wrote: »

We're not allowed cite previous console generation statistics. Got it.

Yeah not what i said at all.

Im making the exact point that its far far too early to be throwing around the sensatiolist comments of success OR failure and thanks for providing the wiiu as a perfect example, every article claiming its a success or this is proof of how bad its gonna do or fail is right now pointless and has no merit. The people writing them are doing so for 2 reasons.

1.To get clicks
2. So when it is declared a success or failure down the line at some point they can point at their articles and claim to have "called it"

Basically stop reading garbage and enjoy the new toy

sligeach · 08-03-2017 05:55PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Yeah not what i said at all.

Im making the exact point that its far far too early to be throwing around the sensatiolist comments of success OR failure and thanks for providing the wiiu as a perfect example, every article claiming its a success or this is proof of how bad its gonna do or fail is right now pointless and has no merit. The people writing them are doing so for 2 reasons.

1.To get clicks
2. So when it is declared a success or failure down the line at some point they can point at their articles and claim to have "called it"

Basically stop reading garbage and enjoy the new toy

Did you actually read the article? It's not negative.

......."Again, this isn't meant to downplay what is definitely a strong launch for the Switch or to suggest the system will end up like the Wii U. At the same time, there's no particular reason to expect the Switch will sell as well as the Wii (or the PS4 or the Xbox One, etc.) either. Despite the hyperbole of Nintendo's press releases and quick-hit, media-driven cross-console comparisons, it's much too early to say anything solid about the long-term prospects of the Switch.

We'll have to see how the Nintendo Switch continues to sell through the summer and into the holiday season before we know if it has the legs to attract significant sales (and, in turn, perhaps renewed attention from big-budget third-party developers). Until then, let's all enjoy Nintendo's early success without reading too much into it.".......

It's saying that it's too early to tell whether it'll succeed or not and cites the Wii U as an example. Great start then fell off a cliff.

Andrew76 · 08-03-2017 06:09PM

Fieldog wrote: »

Everyone just went and forgot RROD?

Probably the biggest recall in any machines history!

The PS2 had fan and DVD issues also iirc....

Of course now that we have the internet and a voice on the internet with the likes of social media, these things tend to get amplified....

It's a good thing that issues can be amplified these days, it might make the hardware makers release better quality products in the first place or respond to issues faster. Rather than rushing stuff out the door.

sligeach · 08-03-2017 06:38PM

Access Youtube on Nintendo Switch (with video Playback)

http://wololo.net/2017/03/08/access-youtube-nintendo-switch-video-playback/

http://gbatemp.net/threads/tutorial-access-youtube-via-charles-proxy-on-switch-with-working-video-playback.463253/

Victor McDade · 08-03-2017 06:43PM

On the topic of early sales, yes it's far too early to say much. There are enough hardcore Nintendo fans out there would would've bought whatever was released, no matter how good or bad the system was. Wii and Wii U both launched in November, while Switch has achieved similar figures in what is usually a slower time for console sales.
This might turn out to be a smart move by Nintendo as the core buyers will already have their consoles when we approach the holiday season as the US call it. Anyone on the fence about buying will at least have the option to do so rather than see it sold out everywhere as the Nintendo fans snap it up. If they can get Mario out before Thanksgiving I can see it selling really well.

Sales in France reported to be 105,000 in the first 4 days, the best start of any Nintendo machine since the 80s. Encouraging, but again too early to read too much into it
http://www.lefigaro.fr/secteur/high-tech/2017/03/07/32001-20170307ARTFIG00195-la-nintendo-switch-bat-tous-les-records-de-ventes-en-france.php

RobbingBandit · 08-03-2017 07:01PM

Come what may there will be a holiday ( murica) price drop more games available and hopefully all the kinks worked out come November December but and I say this again early adaptors get to play Zelda now on their toilet if they so chose.

sligeach · 08-03-2017 07:26PM

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Come what may there will be a holiday ( murica) price drop more games available and hopefully all the kinks worked out come November December but and I say this again early adaptors get to play Zelda now on their toilet if they so chose.

And also get piles.

johnny_ultimate · 08-03-2017 07:30PM

Regardless of the console's long term viability, regardless of the launch problems (problem free so far, touch wood), and regardless of any other legitimate concerns, I can confidently state the Switch is for me a complete success in form factor. Such a jump in portable quality, and really does feel like everything the Wii U should have been (well, asynchronous multiplayer aside). It's a simple idea pretty much perfectly executed, and even if the Switch is ultimately a commercial or creative (software wise) failure, that form factor alone is a very welcome evolution in gaming hardware.

pcadhain · 08-03-2017 07:45PM

sligeach wrote: »

And also get piles.

Oh you and your negativity again :P

Tipsy McSwagger · 08-03-2017 07:48PM

One thing I love about the Switch is you will be able to pick up another dock and connect to another TV around the house.

murphyebass · 08-03-2017 07:56PM

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Regardless of the console's long term viability, regardless of the launch problems (problem free so far, touch wood), and regardless of any other legitimate concerns, I can confidently state the Switch is for me a complete success in form factor. Such a jump in portable quality, and really does feel like everything the Wii U should have been (well, asynchronous multiplayer aside). It's a simple idea pretty much perfectly executed, and even if the Switch is ultimately a commercial or creative (software wise) failure, that form factor alone is a very welcome evolution in gaming hardware.

I agree. It's great to see Nintendo still innovating. It's a lovely distraction from an online FPS on your ps4/xbox1/PC.

And that's how I view it. A console similar to my Wii U that will act as a nice balance to the other main gaming machine.

Nintendo will need to do something great to win over mobile owners. As much as we all love our Nintendo IP's enough to spend wads of money on them, unfortunately Joe public is not.

A massive launch with Pokemon around Christmas might solve that somewhat but other than Pokemon imo no game will win over that audience.

The Wii was a fluke. The Wii U already does an element of the Switch stuff and it bombed. I still love mine but it bombed because of poor marketing and Joe public wasn't interested even when they did find out about it.

Good luck ninty

Ol' Donie · 08-03-2017 08:09PM

Fluke?

The Wii was (is) outstanding. Just because there's billions of shovelware crap on it, it doesn't mean it wasn't (isn't) remarkable.

Banjo · 08-03-2017 08:20PM

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

One thing I love about the Switch is you will be able to pick up another dock and connect to another TV around the house.

And the dock and ac adapter will only cost the same amount as a 2nd TV!

Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

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