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Clerical Officer in Waterford Council

  • 01-02-2017 12:47pm
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    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Did anyone else apply for this? Or does anyone know the general timeframe of when we should hear about the first assessment?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    I applied for it too - I know as much as you do! Just the standard email telling us they'd be in touch in due course regarding the aptitude tests.

    I'm hoping it'll be within the next fortnight anyway. When I applied for the Clerical Officer in the Civil service, it was almost exactly a month between submitting my application and getting the aptitude test, so fingers crossed these roles work around the same timelines.

    I'd love to know how many applied!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭suitcasepink


    I applied for it too - I know as much as you do! Just the standard email telling us they'd be in touch in due course regarding the aptitude tests.

    I'm hoping it'll be within the next fortnight anyway. When I applied for the Clerical Officer in the Civil service, it was almost exactly a month between submitting my application and getting the aptitude test, so fingers crossed these roles work around the same timelines.

    I'd love to know how many applied!

    Yeah I applied to that too, I was sick for the supervised tests though and really messed them up :( Hoping that this is my second chance!

    I hate how drawn out these things are, wish they could just start the assessments and give the results out right away!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    deise_girl wrote: »
    Yeah I applied to that too, I was sick for the supervised tests though and really messed them up :( Hoping that this is my second chance!

    I hate how drawn out these things are, wish they could just start the assessments and give the results out right away!!

    I know, they really take their time, don't they? I actually did ok on the supervised test, but I wouldn't say there's a whole lot of positions in Waterford (compared to say Dublin), so I'm not holding my breath for an interview any time soon.

    How did you find the WCC application form? I thought it was a bitch compared to the civil service one. Took me hours to fill out!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭suitcasepink


    I know, they really take their time, don't they? I actually did ok on the supervised test, but I wouldn't say there's a whole lot of positions in Waterford (compared to say Dublin), so I'm not holding my breath for an interview any time soon.

    How did you find the WCC application form? I thought it was a bitch compared to the civil service one. Took me hours to fill out!

    Yeah I kept putting it off it looked so tedious! Trying to come up with good competency examples and then to find you need to write a personal statement.. I really hate those things.
    Do you think they'll weed many out on the basis of the application? Atleast with the civil service everyone had a chance at the tests.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    deise_girl wrote: »
    Do you think they'll weed many out on the basis of the application? Atleast with the civil service everyone had a chance at the tests.

    Well what I took from the auto reply email was that everyone that applied would receive the date of the aptitude test in due course.

    I'd say of those that pass that and then pass the numerical/verbal reasoning/error checking, the application will then come into play when inviting people for interview. It's really unchartered territory for me though, as it does seem slightly different from the way the civil service do things. I've also heard the pass rate for the numerical/verbal reasoning and error checking are stricter than the CS.

    If we do well, it'll be nice not having to travel to Dublin for each stage though!


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭suitcasepink


    Sorry to be dragging this up again but I still never heard a word from them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Me neither. They're really dragging it out now.

    I asked in the Limerick CC Clerical Officer thread over on the Work & Jobs forum how long they were waiting, just to get an idea of timeframes and got this reply:
    Expression of interest was in mid Nov & we received an email on 21st Dec inviting us to the test in early Jan... Christmas in the middle may have delayed things for us, hopefully you won't have to wait as long for your test. It was 3 weeks later we received our test results and nothing yet for the next stage... hope this helps and best of luck to you!

    So, it seems they were waiting around 5/6 weeks from application stage to being invited to the test - we're waiting a good bit longer than that at this stage. Submissions of application closed on 13 January and nothing further almost 2 months later. I haven't a notion what's taking them so long, tbh.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭suitcasepink


    Yeah like it's a bit much really.. Why bother have the closing date so long ago if you're not going to follow up on it?
    I keep thinking I'm just not on their mailing list somehow, that I've been forgotten!
    The amount of time they're taking probably says a lot about the number of vacancies that they have :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    deise_girl wrote: »
    Yeah like it's a bit much really.. Why bother have the closing date so long ago if you're not going to follow up on it?
    I keep thinking I'm just not on their mailing list somehow, that I've been forgotten!
    The amount of time they're taking probably says a lot about the number of vacancies that they have :/

    Lots of vacancies, since they don't have any clerical staff to administer this competition...?! :confused:


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭suitcasepink


    Lots of vacancies, since they don't have any clerical staff to administer this competition...?! :confused:

    Spoken like a real optimist!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭Saysay19


    deise_girl wrote: »
    Spoken like a real optimist!

    Hey I got an email this morning about sitting the tests.

    Has anyone else?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Saysay19 wrote: »
    Hey I got an email this morning about sitting the tests.

    Has anyone else?

    Yes, I got it too - about bleedin' time!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭Saysay19


    Yes, I got it too - about bleedin' time!

    I know half relieved half sick. Maths is not my strongest point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Saysay19 wrote: »
    I know half relieved half sick. Maths is not my strongest point.

    Yeah, maths wouldn't be my strongest suit either. Sure all we can do is practice the sample tests and do our best on the day.....


    ....And hope half the candidates don't turn up :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭Saysay19


    Yeah, maths wouldn't be my strongest suit either. Sure all we can do is practice the sample tests and do our best on the day.....


    ....And hope half the candidates don't turn up :P

    Wouldn't that be great!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,887 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    sounds like some trek to get the jobs, a number of interviews, qustionaires, exams etc

    best of luck and hope ye are all successful


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭suitcasepink


    They don't give much notice so they?! Luckily I was able to work something out to get the time off for it! I wonder how many are in the running or if our initial applications stand for anything after these assesments?
    Best of luck everyone!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭Saysay19


    deise_girl wrote: »
    They don't give much notice so they?! Luckily I was able to work something out to get the time off for it! I wonder how many are in the running or if our initial applications stand for anything after these assesments?
    Best of luck everyone!!

    A girl I know has her tests 9am Wednesday and I'm a few hours after, there must be a few sessions on. Hopefully not everyone will turn up!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭suitcasepink


    Saysay19 wrote: »
    A girl I know has her tests 9am Wednesday and I'm a few hours after, there must be a few sessions on. Hopefully not everyone will turn up!

    I didn't realise there was a few different times! I'm at 9am myself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭Saysay19


    deise_girl wrote: »
    I didn't realise there was a few different times! I'm at 9am myself.

    Yep! I was a bit disheartened when I heard!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 31 EllieVH


    Hi Guys,

    Do you have any links for practice tests? I googled "aptitude test" and started doing a few of those but I'm looking to see if there's any specific ones for city council jobs.

    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭Saysay19


    EllieVH wrote: »
    Hi Guys,

    Do you have any links for practice tests? I googled "aptitude test" and started doing a few of those but I'm looking to see if there's any specific ones for city council jobs.

    Thanks

    I don't but I think on public jobs.ie have practice tests!

    I did an evening last year on clerical assessments and how to prepare for the tests.

    I'm still not ready!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭suitcasepink


    I found the verbal fine and thought I was off to great things, little did I realise.. I skipped 2 in the numerical they were just taking me too long so I decided to move on to others. And the error checking, lol, I was on the second page but still had a fair few left!
    I'm so used to doing these tests on a computer I definitely think the pages and writing slowed me down, but I'm sure many were delighted not having to do it on a screen


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 EllieVH


    Same here :) 7 minutes? LOL.

    I left out the last 2 in the numerical and did 30/40 in the clerical check. Not enough time!

    Just hope the ones I did were all correct.

    Good luck to everyone.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭suitcasepink


    EllieVH wrote: »
    Same here :) 7 minutes? LOL.

    I left out the last 2 in the numerical and did 30/40 in the clerical check. Not enough time!

    Just hope the ones I did were all correct.

    Good luck to everyone.

    Yea seems really similar to myself! Praying we get something from it all!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Waffleturd


    Delighted we'll be getting the results next week! That clerical checking was a hoot...!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Fair play to those who got to 30 in the Clerical checking...I only managed 23!! Was concentrating on accuracy rather than timing myself. Think the clerical checking may have goosed up my chances. 7 minutes is crazy given the amount of detail you have to check.

    The verbal was fine, finished all those, but I ran out of time on the last four questions in the numerical, although I found the numerical far easier than previous civil/public service tests.

    Quite surprised when the guy said that only just over 500 had applied for the jobs...that's far less than I expected. Still don't reckon I reached the standard to advance to interview, but sure it's all practice I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭taytobreath


    Fair play to those who got to 30 in the Clerical checking...I only managed 23!! Was concentrating on accuracy rather than timing myself. Think the clerical checking may have goosed up my chances. 7 minutes is crazy given the amount of detail you have to check.

    The verbal was fine, finished all those, but I ran out of time on the last four questions in the numerical, although I found the numerical far easier than previous civil/public service tests.

    Quite surprised when the guy said that only just over 500 had applied for the jobs...that's far less than I expected. Still don't reckon I reached the standard to advance to interview, but sure it's all practice I guess.

    500 applied for how many jobs?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭suitcasepink


    Fair play to those who got to 30 in the Clerical checking...I only managed 23!! Was concentrating on accuracy rather than timing myself. Think the clerical checking may have goosed up my chances. 7 minutes is crazy given the amount of detail you have to check.

    The verbal was fine, finished all those, but I ran out of time on the last four questions in the numerical, although I found the numerical far easier than previous civil/public service tests.

    Quite surprised when the guy said that only just over 500 had applied for the jobs...that's far less than I expected. Still don't reckon I reached the standard to advance to interview, but sure it's all practice I guess.

    You don't know yet though, even if you feel you answered less you could have answered more accurately than most! :)

    I thought the same re so few applying, I thought that a huge number would, although I've no idea how many vacancies to expect to come up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    500 applied for how many jobs?

    If I remember correctly, he mentioned that around 520 people had applied for the clerical assistant/library assistant jobs and maybe 400ish expected to turn up for the exam.

    No idea how many positions there are between Waterford City and Dungarvan, but he said he would get on to WC&CC before the end of next week to try and get a figure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭Saysay19


    I was surprised that I found numerical ok. I did guess 2 answers as I couldn't work them out.

    Verbal reasoning was ok too....

    Error checking! Haha I think I got 28/40!!

    Are these for permanent roles and have anyone any idea how many positions they are!!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭suitcasepink


    Scores out now! Pleased with mine but wish they gave us our rankings!
    Also don't really understand the system are they just taking any 40 from the 120 for interview?
    Kinda feels like the test might mean little


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 EllieVH


    Did you get an email? I didn't :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 EllieVH


    My surname starts with v, though, so maybe I'll be among the last people to get an email...


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭suitcasepink


    EllieVH wrote: »
    My surname starts with v, though, so maybe I'll be among the last people to get an email...

    Yea i did mine at 9am too so maybe they're just sending that way :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33 blaagirl03


    Got me email early this morning. No rank number on it though. Hard to know where ur placed....😥


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Well I passed, which was a relief! Seems of the 23 clerical checking questions I managed to finish, I got all of them right at least!

    It appears that they'll now shortlist the top 120 from each campaign (I'm in for both) and then call 40 candidates each based on the application forms.

    Bummer not knowing if you've reached the top 120 candidates or not, though. I guess it's just a waiting game again now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 blaagirl03


    Should be a little more transparent i feel.....In the interest of fair procedure and all. Then again if it was fair I'll bet a huge number wouldn't be working in public sector!!!?!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭suitcasepink


    Yea like it's a bit daft they can't just let us know if we're in the top 120 or not?


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Waffleturd


    My understanding (based on the email) is that based on our education and experience we may shoot up or down the ranks. Basically, I don't think our ranking exists until WCC has sifted our applications and applied additional scoring to our test results.

    Quite a drawn out process so far.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33 blaagirl03


    Waffleturd wrote: »
    My understanding (based on the email) is that based on our education and experience we may shoot up or down the ranks. Basically, I don't think our ranking exists until WCC has sifted our applications and applied additional scoring to our test results.

    Quite a drawn out process so far.

    That would be fairer if so.. Hopefully the next stage will be sooner rather than later..... Nothing worse than being left in the dark for an age.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 31 EllieVH


    Got my score in the end 39-21-27... Fingers crossed, I suppose...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    blaagirl03 wrote: »
    Should be a little more transparent i feel.....In the interest of fair procedure and all. Then again if it was fair I'll bet a huge number wouldn't be working in public sector!!!?!

    Why are you going for the job if that's your attitude towards the public sector and your potential colleagues..??


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 cfog21


    Hi,
    I have applied for these two positions also, looking forward to finding out where I rank, fingers crossed we all make it into the top40!
    I am just wondering can someone explain the difference between working for local government as a clerical officer and working for the civil service as a clerical officer? For example, Would your service be transferable?
    I am having trouble finding info on the Internet, so any advice would be appreciated!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Just got an e-mail from WCC - I didn't make it through to the interview stage unfortunately.

    Best of luck to the rest of you - hope ye all do well :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 blaagirl03


    Just got an e-mail from WCC - I didn't make it through to the interview stage unfortunately.

    Best of luck to the rest of you - hope ye all do well :)

    Me too....Aw well, the fact that we were never given a rank number would make u think whether these jobs are already promised and the process was just complying with formalities... Anyway hope im wrong and the best and most deserving candidates are appointed. Good luck to all going forward to next stage......!


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Waffleturd


    No joy here either. It would have been nice if rankings were known at any point throughout. Good luck to all still in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 137 ✭✭Saysay19


    Waffleturd wrote: »
    No joy here either. It would have been nice if rankings were known at any point throughout. Good luck to all still in.

    I'm gone too! Good luck to everyone!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,849 Mod ✭✭✭✭suitcasepink


    Yea I'm gone too :( Had really been hoping for it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 blaagirl03


    Don't be too disheartened lads......It's a lottery with these type of jobs. Always has been, always will.


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