Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 MOD NOTE POST 1*

unrealtime · 28-02-2017 03:57PM

Brian Cody was not removed as a selector; he did not go forward at the AGM.

Village87 · 28-02-2017 04:16PM

There was tension in the management and club involving his son. Selectors had to take Diarmuid off when Cody was at the far side of the pitch, or else Cody would not have allowed it. Worked out for the best that Cody is not there this year.

kkclubhurling · 28-02-2017 04:23PM

Village87 wrote: »

There was tension in the management and club involving his son. Selectors had to take Diarmuid off when Cody was at the far side of the pitch, or else Cody would not have allowed it. Worked out for the best that Cody is not there this year.

Simply untrue, anyone at the match you reference can adhere to the fact Cody was right beside the management when his son came off, although he was not happy it is false to say he was at the far side of the pitch.

Secondly, as far as I gather from those within the club, the Village, like most clubs have a management selection committee which puts forward names for ratification at the AGM, Brian Cody is on this management selection committee, to suggest there was some sort of ousting at the AGM is again simply wrong and I struggle to see what you gain from stirring the pot?

buck65 · 28-02-2017 04:57PM

Cody is happy to wield the axe himself when someone's not performing and certainly seems to enjoy his status in the game as a bit of an ogre. Disappointing that he would mete favourable treatment to his own son. People always reference his dropping of Charlie Carter, mcEvoy and at a later stage Pete Barry and Cha Fitzpatrick. Very easy to do with a conveyer belt of talent behind you.

Ceist_Beag · 28-02-2017 05:10PM

Jaysus, plenty on here happy to have a pop at Cody based on hearsay (which has already been refuted by some as simply untrue).

Charlie69 · 28-02-2017 05:33PM

Hawkeye6 wrote: »

That's a pity, I wouldn't have considered you one of the one dimensional posters. Your posts are usually knowledgably and I'm sure you would have interesting thoughts and opinions on the subject and how they do affect Kilkenny GAA.
The thread is called Kilkenny GAA, and in my opinion, Fitzgibbon, Colleges and of course Congress all relate directly to Kilkenny GAA and I thought it might make for more interesting debate than the continued discussion around one part of Kilkenny GAA, the senior team. Kilkenny GAA is much bigger and broader. There's been plenty of fantasy teams and "team I'd like to see" and people are entitled to that, but I prefer hearing facts or knowledgeable opinion rather than fantasy and hearsay and people who are abroad are more interested in genuine information and discussion that they do not have access to. I stick to Kilkenny GAA, but if you recommend other forums, please let us know. I just don't like Kilkenny GAA being painted as a one trick pony when we have so much going on.

Do you have to be so condescending though?

brookville · 28-02-2017 06:33PM

Village87 wrote: »

There was tension in the management and club involving his son. Selectors had to take Diarmuid off when Cody was at the far side of the pitch, or else Cody would not have allowed it. Worked out for the best that Cody is not there this year.

I can't really comment on the ins and outs of the club but I was at that match in the park and remember donnacha was full foward and could barely move and diarmuid was taken off he threw his helmet to the ground but brian was definitely at the new stand side when he was taking off

mullinr2 · 28-02-2017 06:35PM

What's a big worry for us is that we haven't produced a skillful forward who has an eye for goal in years. The last two exceptional forwards we produced who are still playing are TJ and R. Hogan. You wouldn't put down John Power, Walter Walsh, Liam Blanchfield, Kevin Kelly, Colin Fennelly, as really skillful forwards. Compare that to Tipp who have the likes of Bubbles, John McGrath and Jason Forde, who have come on the seen in the last year. Couple that with also having Callinan and Noel McGrath. There's five really skillful forwards compared to our two.
Something has gone wrong sometime,somewhere with the coaching of our young players. Big and strong but not fast and overly skillful

citykat · 28-02-2017 07:06PM

brookville wrote: »

I can't really comment on the ins and outs of the club but I was at that match in the park and remember donnacha was full foward and could barely move and diarmuid was taken off he threw his helmet to the ground but brian was definitely at the new stand side when he was taking off

Happened right in front of me. Cody went in on the pitch to talk to Diarmuid. The selectors then summoned Diarmuid while Cody was still in on the pitch and had his back turned. Didn't look like he was aware what was going on. He standing away from the other selectors as Diarmuid walked off the pitch.

Village87 · 01-03-2017 09:56AM

kkclubhurling wrote: »

Simply untrue, anyone at the match you reference can adhere to the fact Cody was right beside the management when his son came off, although he was not happy it is false to say he was at the far side of the pitch.

Secondly, as far as I gather from those within the club, the Village, like most clubs have a management selection committee which puts forward names for ratification at the AGM, Brian Cody is on this management selection committee, to suggest there was some sort of ousting at the AGM is again simply wrong and I struggle to see what you gain from stirring the pot?

"Stirring the pot" i certainly am not, im just stating what happened, these are the facts within the Club, a lot of Senior figures in the club wanted to see him out. Not going into the reasons. Village hurling was there long before Brian Cody and will be there a long time after he goes too

Michael Kavanagh · 01-03-2017 11:07AM

Village87 wrote: »

"Stirring the pot" i certainly am not, im just stating what happened, these are the facts within the Club, a lot of Senior figures in the club wanted to see him out. Not going into the reasons. Village hurling was there long before Brian Cody and will be there a long time after he goes too

You must have been in the dunces corner a few times in the Dellasalle , you seem to have a very short memory as regards a few things the man and his late father did for the village gaa.

danganabu · 01-03-2017 03:39PM

unrealtime wrote: »

Hope I'm wrong as he is a scoring machine but I think Ger will struggle to get fit.

Is this a bit of a stretch?His stock certainly seems to have risen greatly in his absence as is often the case.

Django99 · 01-03-2017 04:02PM

danganabu wrote: »

Is this a bit of a stretch?His stock certainly seems to have risen greatly in his absence as is often the case.

Yeah I'd agree. Dont know if he's the answer to all our problems. However he settled in to the team much quicker than most lads do and when the team is struggling as it is now the need for players who are comfortable at this level is all the greater.

unrealtime · 01-03-2017 04:04PM

An All Star scoring machine as recognised by his peers of course

danganabu · 01-03-2017 05:32PM

unrealtime wrote: »

An All Star scoring machine as recognised by his peers of course

As were Padraic Collins, Shane Dowling, Cathal Mannion and Maurice Shanahan but to name a few from the past few years, one good season or one all star does not a great hurler make.

I'm not arguing about his merits or his potential but the recent assumption that his return will be this massive season defining moment is wishful thinking to be honest.

unrealtime · 01-03-2017 05:47PM

From your concerns he obviously scares the living daylights out of you. He is a scoring machine and has been for years - underage for the county and in colleges. He racks up scores with great ease. He went through a very short lean period but was dynamite in 2015. His great improvement was badly missed last year and he gives an added dimension to the team. With Mick Fennelly he was a major loss to the Kilkenny attack last year.

danganabu · 01-03-2017 06:11PM

unrealtime wrote: »

From your concerns he obviously scares the living daylights out of you. He is a scoring machine and has been for years - underage for the county and in colleges. He racks up scores with great ease. He went through a very short lean period but was dynamite in 2015. His great improvement was badly missed last year and he gives an added dimension to the team. With Mick Fennelly he was a major loss to the Kilkenny attack last year.

oh yeah scares the daylights out of me, cop on like a good lad.

dubcat51 · 02-03-2017 09:01AM

Ger was a big loss last year, whether he comes back as good as he was in 2015 remains to be seen.think its fair to say he is better than the ones who have replaced him so far.

Village87 · 02-03-2017 10:12AM

Mick Fennelly is a colossus loss. His presence makes the team click. Fogarty very poor so far without him, need to see him step up.
Looking forward to having Aylward back. As stated earlier, he is a natural forward that we are desperately short on

danganabu · 02-03-2017 10:37AM

dubcat51 wrote: »

Ger was a big loss last year, whether he comes back as good as he was in 2015 remains to be seen.think its fair to say he is better than the ones who have replaced him so far.

Absolutely no doubt about that and fully agree.

citykat · 02-03-2017 11:34AM

Interesting case up for mention in the district court this week. Concerns an alleged assault on a player during the 2015 Junior county final. Adjourned to later in the month.

unrealtime · 02-03-2017 12:08PM

So we all agree so about Gers value - good.

Django99 · 02-03-2017 12:42PM

citykat wrote: »

Interesting case up for mention in the district court this week. Concerns an alleged assault on a player during the 2015 Junior county final. Adjourned to later in the month.

Was that the Luke Harvey incident?

usualstripes · 02-03-2017 01:51PM

Django99 wrote: »

Was that the Luke Harvey incident?

I think you mean luke harney.

danganabu · 02-03-2017 02:31PM

unrealtime wrote: »

An All Star scoring machine as recognised by his peers of course

unrealtime wrote: »

So we all agree so about Gers value - good.

No, your first statement above is hyperbolic, blinkered, wishful thinking or in short par for the course for you

Topcat32 · 02-03-2017 02:41PM

buck65 wrote: »

Cody is happy to wield the axe himself when someone's not performing and certainly seems to enjoy his status in the game as a bit of an ogre. Disappointing that he would mete favourable treatment to his own son. People always reference his dropping of Charlie Carter, mcEvoy and at a later stage Pete Barry and Cha Fitzpatrick. Very easy to do with a conveyer belt of talent behind you.

Yawn

brookville · 02-03-2017 02:49PM

I heard chris bolger is not on the Kilkenny panel at the moment can anyone confirm this?id be suprised if this was the case as i thought he would of got gametime first and he was good for his club,he hasn't being making the match day squad which was concerning for him.hopefully this isn't true as I was hoping he would play a few league matches

Topcat32 · 02-03-2017 02:50PM

danganabu wrote: »

No, your first statement above is hyperbolic, blinkered, wishful thinking or in short par for the course for you

Maybe its just his opinion tho?? If he rates him that highly surely he is entitled to say so, it may be an exaggeration even if 2015 and a reasonable underage career does provide some support to his point, but how do you know it was deliberate exaggeration, maybe you are just the type of person who loves using the word "hyperbolic"

danganabu · 02-03-2017 04:52PM

Topcat32 wrote: »

Maybe its just his opinion tho?? If he rates him that highly surely he is entitled to say so, it may be an exaggeration even if 2015 and a reasonable underage career does provide some support to his point, but how do you know it was deliberate exaggeration, maybe you are just the type of person who loves using the word "hyperbolic"

And what I have offered is my opinion, I'm not really sure what point you are trying to make here??

Topcat32 · 02-03-2017 05:02PM

danganabu wrote: »

And what I have offered is my opinion, I'm not really sure what point you are trying to make here??

Im just curious as to why you are attacking his opinion so strongly and using such emotive words as hyperbolic, hope thats clear, im not questioning your opinion that the original comment was an exaggeration, which you are of course entiltled to state.

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