*** HPAT and Medicine 2017 ***

ive been nonchalantly following the 2015 and 2016 threads up until now. this now applies to me directly, well then let the panic set in :"D

i have started proper prep since June, but have been doing a few of the careers services practice questions provided to me by my schools guidance councellour throughout 5th year in my spare time.

whats everyone else at out of curiosity.

Hello fellow HPAT victims,👍🏼😂
I have been preparing for HPAT since early Transition Year...but now because the Acer HPAT papers are only valid for 12 months I no longer have access to them.
I know I should have printed out the hard copies but to be perfectly honest I have gone through each paper thoroughly at least twice already & I need some new material ASAP.
Although I will be doing the ******** Course in December & will have access to new material I would like to remain in touch with the HPAT between now & then.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated☺️

Does anyone know how the new points system for 2017 will effect things?

Anybody have any tips on timing/ how to speed up answering test questions?

CH1123581321 wrote: »

Just out of curiosity, what colleges are you all applying for medicine to and do you have any preferences?

All of them.. order of preference is UCD, TCD, RCSI, NUIG, UCC. UCD is the dream but of course will be lucky to get into any of them

Pharmacy wrote: »

Hi, I was just wondering if any of you know if there's any difference between the 5 medicine courses in Ireland? I live in the west and I probably will put NUIG as my first choice, my only hesitation is whether NUIG holds the same stance and merit as the colleges in Dublin (RCSI, UCD and TCD). Basically, what i'm trying to figure out is whether the college you go to matters in the end.

Thanks.

Not at all. Your results matter, not your college. Pick the college you actually want to go to.
(Go Cork! :P)

How was the hpat today for all who did it ? Any comments ������

Just wondering how people found it today? I can't help feeling really disappointed I worked so so hard for it but I feel like it went so bad like I don't think I have a hope of getting med now! Especially with section 2 which I'm usually really good at, I felt like I was picking the best of a load of bad answers. Does everyone feel like this after it?

I thought section 1 was pretty nasty. Didn't have as much logical reasoning style questions. It was mostly interpreting graphs (if I'm remembering correctly). Did anyone else think a lot of these graphs/diagrams were a bit all over the shop? I'd to re-read a few of them a couple of times before they made any reasonable amount of sense (even then I'm sure I made mistakes with at least some of them).

Section 2 and 3 seemed okay, but you can never be sure.

All in all, I have to say that I'm disappointed with today. I did all of the sample ACER papers (lol) and the Career Services prep course and was doing quiet well (or so I thought at least). So yeah, I guess I was reasonably confident of my chances, but after today I'm definitely not.

@nol980: Yeah that first question took a few reads and even then I'm very doubtful about it. I didn't spend too long on it because I knew I had to move on and was still pretty nervous and hadn't settled in (that first question didn't help :P)

I think the circular seats question's grid represented who sat beside who, so for people at opposite ends of the grid you'd have to look at the very bottom square to see if they sat beside each other and so on. I could definitely be wrong on this (again I rushed through it).

TBH I'm not surprised that a lot of the techniques that you learned at the M******y courses weren't useful. They've been trying to remove the advantage that people doing prep courses had in section 3 in recent years (making it worth half as much as the other two sections, changing questions etc).

I agree with all of you I felt something was missing from Section I- there were way too many data interpretation questions. I always finished Section II in time or only had a few questions unread- today I probably may have missed ten or more which makes me feel disappointed in myself primarily. Section III, just as you have all said, was not too kind to us either. There were those certain types of questions which were in nearly every ACER sample paper and my Career*ervices practice papers that made no appearance today.

But then, on the other hand, they're never going to fulfil our expectations simple as. The thing with HPAT is we should've (and subconsciously probably did!) expect the unexpected. InsertCoins, I completely agree about the advantage of courses being diminished. They're trying to stop any courses from becoming too helpful. For us and future HPAT students (hopefully not us anymore, we'll be in med school, away from that!) courses have become only a sort of tool to make us more confident, there's so much they can really help with.

They truly do want to test our potential, intellect and mental capacities from the stimuli we receive on the day, not all the stuff we hope to see. On the way, they seriously test our resillience to stress! (like "the universe" in that Section II q!)

Hi guys,

Did anyone else notice a mistake on the Circular Table question in Section One?

They named 3 girls and 3 guys at the start, and then one of the guys names changed inexplicably a couple of lines later???

I've emailed them to ask in any case... just in case it was a reading error on my part!!

xx

Did you guys get any question on an American woman in section 2? And did you guys say indifferent or something like hostile?
(Just hoping it's a trial question)

I found section 2 much harder than usual! I was getting it done in time on the acer practice tests but missed out on nearly 10 questions for the real thing. Did anyone else find section 2 took longer than the practice exams?

i chose indifferent for the american woman question!! I didn't notice any aggressive behaviour! oh lads section 3 what even

theWildCard wrote: »

My first post here.

My tactic for S1 was to do the questions i felt were easier at first. when i reached the end of s1 i had not done the first age data qs, seat qs, square qs (the 31B22 b sht) and the cake part. I had like ten minutes to finish these but my mind was completely blown so i had to guess a lot of those. I only got to figure out the seat qs thoroughly. I really didnt know how to attack a lot of these... harder than im used to.

Section 2 went great. But, it was hard to finish. i had to skip 2 qs. Normally i have ten minutes before the times up!

Section 3 had a different style than im used to as well. i guess i will get 23, 26, 14 correct. What do you think thats equivalent to in terms of percentile and overall score? I have 565 points LC points

Sounds pretty similar to my experience with the test.

We can only speculate in terms of what scores we might have gotten. The number of correct answers has little to do with scores. It's based on a distribution of scores and marked based on what percentile that you're in.

I'm just pretty damn worried because section 3 is only worth half as much as the others and that section 1 could really bring down my overall score.

Any one else run out of time for section 1? </3

CH1123581321 wrote: »

Oh yeah ha ha, like big time, I had to blindly guess a good 15+ without even reading the questions

Try not to dwell on it. I know you're disappointed but loads of people didn't get section 1 finished and even then it was very tough. Remember, it's your percentile that matters and NOT the number of correct answers.

Definitely follow up on that and try to get ACER to clarify.

InsertCoins wrote: »

Did anyone else get the question on the deaf people, in Section 1?

The one with the vowels and stuff?
I got it, I hope it's not a trial because it was kinda nice

mbh008 wrote: »

The one with the vowels and stuff?
I got it, I hope it's not a trial because it was kinda nice

What is a trial?

InsertCoins wrote: »

We don't all get the same questions on the day. Most of the questions will be the same that every else got, but some are trial questions that only some people get. Apparently, these questions are only intended to gather statistics on how it was answered and doesn't count towards towards your final score.

Oh I didn't know that, that's interesting thank you!

Yes that one