High Noon with George Hook.

Discodog · 18-02-2017 07:56PM

foxtrot101 wrote: »

All that's true, but he can change his position on any of those issues depending on his mood or whoever he is talking to. That's why you can't take him seriously and nobody does really. If any other high-profile broadcaster had come out with some of the stuff that Hook has over the past couple months it would be front page news, but because it's him - the reaction is...shrug..."It's only George". I'm sure this irks him no end.

The outrage at start of the every show is to get those 30 cent texts flooding in and people fall for it every time. I wonder is he's on commission?

Exactly. It's harking back to the old days of the shock jock.

Ol' Donie · 20-02-2017 02:50PM

I still find it absolutely staggering that anyone though this discussion of various maladies with Dr Ciara Kelly AT LUNCHTIME WHILE THE COUNTRY IS EATING was a good idea.

Staggering.

Sleeper12 · 20-02-2017 03:49PM

Ol' Donie wrote:

I still find it absolutely staggering that anyone though this discussion of various maladies with Dr Ciara Kelly AT LUNCHTIME WHILE THE COUNTRY IS EATING was a good idea.

Tbh We don't really hear much from her because he keeps talking over her

southstar · 20-02-2017 05:09PM

Del.Monte wrote: »

So you can't put it in plain English? I'm not in the least offended by your inability to get your message across clearly.

how much of your life do you spend posting inane reactionary ****e... oh and unoriginal ****e at that...pc brigade blah blah blah ...go walk the dog or something

Conservative · 20-02-2017 06:51PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

I still find it absolutely staggering that anyone though this discussion of various maladies with Dr Ciara Kelly AT LUNCHTIME WHILE THE COUNTRY IS EATING was a good idea.

Staggering.

I find it depressing tbh. A half hour discussion of listeners various ailments.. Go see a doctor!!

On the flipside I really enjoy the parenting segment on Moncrieff and the vet on PK as they can be fascinating despite the fact that I don't have any pets and don't particularly like children.

Brendan Bendar · 21-02-2017 05:14PM

Conservative wrote: »

I find it depressing tbh. A half hour discussion of listeners various ailments.. Go see a doctor!!

On the flipside I really enjoy the parenting segment on Moncrieff and the vet on PK as they can be fascinating despite the fact that I don't have any pets and don't particularly like children.

Ah here!!

Children are great, am'nt I just after valeting the motor and removing kick marks and footprints off the backs of seats, two spilled bags of Hula Hoops, and walked in Marsbar with 'fur' on it from the seat well, the residue of three Foxes Nutty Snaps off the back seat, numerous Minions, and a fistful of crumbled crisps from the back door pockets.

They grow on you:mad:

PeterTheNinth · 22-02-2017 01:06PM

Have to agree with Hook on this one. I was in town yesterday. Cyclists back and forth across the traffic without a care, not obeying lights. It's stupid to attack the motorist.

ThisRegard · 22-02-2017 01:16PM

Get off the cross, there's no attack on the motorist.

Birneybau · 22-02-2017 02:22PM

I'm maaaad for Mao.

A chain of restaurants named after this lad:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong

Critics consider him a dictator comparable to Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin who severely damaged traditional Chinese culture, as well as a perpetrator of systematic human rights abuses and estimate that Mao was responsible for 40 to 70 million deaths through starvation, prison labour and executions, ranking his tenure as the top incidence of excess mortality in human history.

Ah jaysus, wrong thread ; D

thedudeinthehat · 22-02-2017 06:47PM

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Have to agree with Hook on this one. I was in town yesterday. Cyclists back and forth across the traffic without a care, not obeying lights. It's stupid to attack the motorist.

The 1.5 meter rule is actually very evidence based policy. I'm afraid during his rant George even realised how ridiculous his rage was when he admitted that lives might be saved by this. But when he has so much blind irrational hate against cyclists - from the comfort of his heated driving seat- are we really surprised. Other people/them and us/ delaying me/ bla bla bla!

AndrewJRenko · 23-02-2017 12:20AM

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Have to agree with Hook on this one. I was in town yesterday. Cyclists back and forth across the traffic without a care, not obeying lights. It's stupid to attack the motorist.

And yet, the common factor in ALL deaths on the roads is not cyclists. Or pedestrians.

I'll let you work out yourself which group it is.

Ol' Donie · 23-02-2017 12:53AM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

And yet, the common factor in ALL deaths on the roads is not cyclists. Or pedestrians.

I'll let you work out yourself which group it is.

Immigrants?

Melodeon · 23-02-2017 01:04PM

Did they just replay the beginning of George's recent anti-cyclist rant, and hastily cut to adverts?

Harry Angstrom · 23-02-2017 01:05PM

What happened to George there? He was just about to launch into his usual daily rant and was interrupted by an ad break.

thedudeinthehat · 23-02-2017 01:18PM

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

What happened to George there? He was just about to launch into his usual daily rant and was interrupted by an ad break.

And the ad break was for a hotel break to de stress. Paired with yesterday's senile rambling about cyclists. Very tongue in cheek editing/ production

AndrewJRenko · 23-02-2017 01:44PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Immigrants?

George?

Conservative · 23-02-2017 01:51PM

Seemed like they went to first ad break early into George's intro. He started with usual rant and they cut into it.. Did he say something they didn't want aired? I'm on a train so wasn't paying close attention.

Fake news?

Conservative · 23-02-2017 01:54PM

Not related to the general discussion today about the young girl but no wonder we have a generation of "snowflakes" with mother's like Brenda Power raising children. Christ almighty!!!

Snake Plisken · 23-02-2017 01:57PM

Conservative wrote: »

Not related to the general discussion today about the young girl but no wonder we have a generation of "snowflakes" with mother's like Brenda Power raising children. Christ almighty!!!

What?so your saying 9 year old children should be exposed to hardcore porn? Because she was arguing against it from what I heard!

thedudeinthehat · 23-02-2017 07:18PM

http://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0223/854865-coleman-driving-appeal/

Im not trying to make direct connection but george really needs to know that for all his rants about dangerous cyclists, the reality is cases like that in link where every time you go out on the road you take a risk that you may be killed by a clown like chris Coleman.
But george is so focused on.the inconvenience to his morning commute or the "waves of cyclists" breaking lights that he ignores the reality that one driver breaking a light can kill. Tragic case which george will no doubt cover in depth to same extent he did the ottowa attack on a mosque.

Brendan Bendar · 23-02-2017 07:43PM

thedudeinthehat wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0223/854865-coleman-driving-appeal/

Im not trying to make direct connection but george really needs to know that for all his rants about dangerous cyclists, the reality is cases like that in link where every time you go out on the road you take a risk that you may be killed by a clown like chris Coleman.
But george is so focused on.the inconvenience to his morning commute or the "waves of cyclists" breaking lights that he ignores the reality that one driver breaking a light can kill. Tragic case which george will no doubt cover in depth to same extent he did the ottowa attack on a mosque.

Is it ok for cyclists to break red lights?

PeterTheNinth · 23-02-2017 07:48PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

And yet, the common factor in ALL deaths on the roads is not cyclists. Or pedestrians. I'll let you work out yourself which group it is.

You have evidence that all of those cyclists were in the right, and were not going through red lights when they were knocked down?

thedudeinthehat · 23-02-2017 07:54PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

thedudeinthehat wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0223/854865-coleman-driving-appeal/

Im not trying to make direct connection but george really needs to know that for all his rants about dangerous cyclists, the reality is cases like that in link where every time you go out on the road you take a risk that you may be killed by a clown like chris Coleman.
But george is so focused on.the inconvenience to his morning commute or the "waves of cyclists" breaking lights that he ignores the reality that one driver breaking a light can kill. Tragic case which george will no doubt cover in depth to same extent he did the ottowa attack on a mosque.

Is it ok for cyclists to break red lights?

In some countires yes. Where turning left and road is clear, approach for cyclists to improve flow is to allow cyclists move faster. Common sense vs over regulation.

If you.are asking me do I agree with cyclists flying through a red light. Of course.not. but it does not happen as much as peoplw claim, else we would see more cases of cyclists killed fby their own stupidity. Self preservation encourages us not to.
Instead, as any cyclist can vouch, we often face reality of being t- boned by cars pulling out of junctions drives or.in case of above simply breaking red light.
Anyway, my point was herr are real stories of cyclists manslaughter , one of many. On other hand, I have yet to see george raise a real case of ongoing fatalaties on road caused by red light breaking cyclists.

I do not want this to become a debate on pros and cons of dublin becoming more cyclist friendly. Rather, to consider Georges rants and ravings in light of reality and real lives not from behind his steering wheel.where he gets overtaken by cyclists daily.

thedudeinthehat · 23-02-2017 07:55PM

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

And yet, the common factor in ALL deaths on the roads is not cyclists. Or pedestrians. I'll let you work out yourself which group it is.

You have evidence that all of those cyclists were in the right, and were not going through red lights when they were knocked down?

yes- for evidence- please read rte story where that exactly was the case
http://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0223/854865-coleman-driving-appeal/

thedudeinthehat · 23-02-2017 07:56PM

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

And yet, the common factor in ALL deaths on the roads is not cyclists. Or pedestrians. I'll let you work out yourself which group it is.

You have evidence that all of those cyclists were in the right, and were not going through red lights when they were knocked down?

duplicate- apologies- please delete admin

AndrewJRenko · 23-02-2017 08:19PM

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

You have evidence that all of those cyclists were in the right, and were not going through red lights when they were knocked down?

You've missed the point, right? 95% of road deaths do not involve any cyclist, regardless of right or wrong. Why the obsession with the 5% and ignoring the 95%?

thedudeinthehat · 23-02-2017 08:25PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

You have evidence that all of those cyclists were in the right, and were not going through red lights when they were knocked down?

You've missed the point, right? 95% of road deaths do not involve any cyclist, regardless of right or wrong. Why the obsession with the 5% and ignoring the 95%?

http://irishcycle.com/2015/01/01/6173/

CatFromHue · 23-02-2017 10:46PM

I think Hook is mainly talking about cyclists in the Dublin City centre and he's right. It feels like a war zone in there with cyclists everywhere and a lot just doing stupid things. For example I've had it a few times cyclists going around a corner the inside of me when I'm going around the corner, I've even had someone go up the inside while another was going around the outside while I was going around a corner. Kamakaze stuff.

I say this as a cyclist myself who just has happened to have driven a few times in the city centre.

So the obsession could come from people flagrantly breaking the rules meaning I have to be super aware added to me not wanting to kill someone even if it'd be their fault.

AndrewJRenko · 23-02-2017 10:57PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

I think Hook is mainly talking about cyclists in the Dublin City centre and he's right. It feels like a war zone in there with cyclists everywhere and a lot just doing stupid things. For example I've had it a few times cyclists going around a corner the inside of me when I'm going around the corner, I've even had someone go up the inside while another was going around the outside while I was going around a corner. Kamakaze stuff.

I say this as a cyclist myself who just has happened to have driven a few times in the city centre.

So the obsession could come from people flagrantly breaking the rules meaning I have to be super aware added to me not wanting to kill someone even if it'd be their fault.

All classes of road users break the laws. George was described by the judge as a 'serial criminal' for his series of speed convictions, and then he gets up on his high horse about cyclists? He's a hypocrite and bigot.

thedudeinthehat · 23-02-2017 11:08PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

I think Hook is mainly talking about cyclists in the Dublin City centre and he's right. It feels like a war zone in there with cyclists everywhere and a lot just doing stupid things. For example I've had it a few times cyclists going around a corner the inside of me when I'm going around the corner, I've even had someone go up the inside while another was going around the outside while I was going around a corner. Kamakaze stuff.

I say this as a cyclist myself who just has happened to have driven a few times in the city centre.

So the obsession could come from people flagrantly breaking the rules meaning I have to be super aware added to me not wanting to kill someone even if it'd be their fault.

Ok- so lets agree to start , that in general we should hope for good diving on the road from all users.
Having commuted in Dublin for years myself, can I comment on your description of the morning or evening commute as a war zone.
It was my experience that on a bike, you were passing a couple of hundred cars on way into and from work each day. Why, because they were sat in traffic/ edging along. Now I can imagine, how frustrating that must be. Like an hour to do in a car what is 20 minutes on a bike. Add to the mix for cyclists that dedicated cycle paths are used as parking zones with zero clamping and ticketing- so of course cyclists need to start weaving in and out to avoid a collision. Also, bad driving on the part of many motorists where they do not leave enough space on their inside for cyclists to past- in which case, they need to drive on the outside/overtake. Result, perception that cyclists are weaving all over the road- when in fact , typically, most cyclists ride defensively in nature avoid that obstacle/turn left and turn right.
So George- obviously as a lad who is also stuck in traffic ( and as regular driver myself) I'm sure he is not too please to go through two or three sequences of lights with no progress- and in the same minute get passed by a dozen or more cyclists whizzing by. I think it is a misplaced rage, where free flowing cyclists are actually a symptom rather than the illness itself. What is the illness-- Dublin is not well designed to handle the volumes of traffic entering the city- and all this rage and angst would surely be better spent asking why so many people take a car into the city in the first place.
Life as a driver in Dublin surely does not match the Audi or BMW TV ads , cruising on sweeping alpine bends or having a knowing smile from the wife as you work up through the gears.
But that just wouldn't make for good radio George would it, the role of car drivers in the chaos in the city center- instead he gets angry at trams/buses and bikes - which ironically enough- are the only way to get the city to the fast flowing and stress free paradise George craves!

High Noon with George Hook.

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