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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭Vinnie222


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Happened to be on a well backed 7/2 poke, amazing really.

    Its happens Get over it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,135 ✭✭✭Gregk961


    Geraghty got banned at Limerick last year for letting the winner go and then closing towards the line, maybe the rest of them on realising the bird had flown feared a similar fate.

    Its hard to know how they all cocked up but its heardly worth pages of debate. Horses slip the field in both codes neaely every day of the week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Gregk961 wrote: »
    Geraghty got banned at Limerick last year

    He did originally, but never served it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭HarshOstrich


    Acapella bourgois up to a mark of 158, 2 pound shy of min after yesterday's win, the handicapper doesn't think it was a fluke.
    Ruby Walsh also said he couldn't go with acapella bourgois at that pace and said his mount paid the price for being the nearest pursuer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Gregk961 wrote: »
    Geraghty got banned at Limerick last year for letting the winner go and then closing towards the line, maybe the rest of them on realising the bird had flown feared a similar fate.

    Its hard to know how they all cocked up but its heardly worth pages of debate. Horses slip the field in both codes neaely every day of the week.

    Of course they do. But in a Grade 2 ???
    Loughran was by his own admission hack cantering, but they made no effort to chase him down.

    As I had no bet in the race I'd like to think that I was objective. I called it early in the race and said that they were all going to be hauled in. They were never going to catch it given there was no pace already in the race and most certainly not on that ground.

    At the very least it was a bad judgement by all those bar loughran. By the book they should have been all hauled in as they made no effort to get their horses best placed.

    Will be watching its next race with interest though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭posturingpat


    I'm fairly confident hell never win a decent race. If he's in the first 3 at Cheltenham I'll be surprised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭HarshOstrich


    I'm fairly confident hell never win a decent race. If he's in the first 3 at Cheltenham I'll be surprised.

    I agree, I think it was a muck race.
    Anibale fly will always be hit or miss,
    Acapella would of been a nice handicapper for next season but his mark is ruined now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    The handicapper had to raise it a few pounds after that.

    Couldn't say it was a fix up.

    We'all see how good it is next time it runs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭Custom Cut


    Excellent sectional analysis by Declan Meagher:

    http://www.cheltenhamtips.ie/acapella-bourgeois-performance-tells-us-stewards-right-not-hold-inquiry/

    The really damning part of this is the time between the first fence and the final fence on the first circuit and on the last circuit. Despite being allowed build up a massive lead the first time round, he was still able to run the same distance 11 seconds quicker on the second circuit, showing that he absolutely cantered first time around and was given an extraordinarily easy lead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    Johnny Ward saying gold cup contender :D:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Acapella bourgois up to a mark of 158, 2 pound shy of min after yesterday's win, the handicapper doesn't think it was a fluke.

    Poor handicapper had no chance with that race, if he goes to England Smith will throw him up another stone.

    To highlight how utterly shambolic that race was, Noel O Brien had to determine that all runners bar the winner ran about a stone under their best and even at that on literal ratings at 1lb a length and as the winner hack cantered to a 158 mark and:

    Road To Respect ran to 126
    Haymount ran to 115
    Aniable Fly ran to 109
    Jetstream Jack ran to 100
    Bellow Mome ran to 97
    Stone Hard ran to 91

    All is good in Irish racing :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭HarshOstrich


    The handicapper had to raise it a few pounds after that.

    Couldn't say it was a fix up.

    We'all see how good it is next time it runs

    A few pounds, it got hit with 15.
    The main form horse in the race ran below par and the rest of the horses are handicappers.
    He's just 3 pound short of don poli which is silly on what he has beaten.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    The finishing time is fine for the winner. 6.37 on Heavy Ground.

    Anibale Fly did 6.27 when winning over the same C&D albeit on Yielding ground a month previously.

    Doubt Accapella will run in the RSA unless its raining cats and dogs for the week.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Ruby and Barry arent known as the untouchables for nothing, sure their family members were probably running the stewards room that race brings Irish racing into disrepute, was there anything in the post today?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    STB. wrote: »
    The finishing time is fine for the winner. 6.37 on Heavy Ground.

    Anibale Fly did 6.27 when winning over the same C&D albeit on Yielding ground a month previously.

    Doubt Accapella will run in the RSA unless its raining cats and dogs for the week.


    No idea what your on about, Anibale fly won over 2m in Navan months ago, his last run was in Naas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Johnny Ward saying gold cup contender :D:D

    I wonder where he stood on the jockeys behind making no effort :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭posturingpat


    Johnny Ward saying gold cup contender :D:D

    Is he taking the piss? I'd normally have Johnny down as one of the less bull**** talking journos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    Is he taking the piss? I'd normally have Johnny down as one of the less bull**** talking journos.

    No he's deadly serious


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,351 ✭✭✭✭Harry Angstrom




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭EICVD


    Jaysus this is even more boring than the O'Leary brothers v Mr Philip Smith.......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Is he taking the piss? I'd normally have Johnny down as one of the less bull**** talking journos.

    I have him down as quite the opposite tbh!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Hasnt a clue Ward, wouldnt know a horse if it kicked him in the face, mug punter, Blake is the only legit journo in the game who can turn a profit not a bluffer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    Ward afraid to step on any toes in case he gets out of the loop, pure arse kisser


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Gamebred wrote: »
    No idea what your on about, Anibale fly won over 2m in Navan months ago, his last run was in Naas.

    Its penultimate run in January was over 3 miles, done and won @ 6:27 on yielding/soft.

    Your'e right it was Naas rather than Navan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭Shemale


    ****ing hell, quote from Noel O Brien,

    "You can talk about the testing ground and tactics or whatever, but the other horses ran to their ratings and in sequence, and he just looked in a different league," he said.

    "There was nothing coasting in behind. Ruby Walsh sat closest to him on Haymount, and he paid the price."

    http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd?event_id=24071624&category=0

    If they all ran to their rating why did he only put the winner up 15lbs and not up to the 175+ he should have gotten, oh yeah cause it's utter bollox.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,135 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Can't believe you guys are still going on about this. Do you people not realise it's Cheltenham in three weeks time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Can't believe you guys are still going on about this. Do you people not realise it's Cheltenham in three weeks time?

    We don't like the term "you guys" :P

    It was only Sunday Francie!

    The way horses are dropping out of Cheltenham this could be the busiest thread come Cheltenham week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭nuckeythompson


    Time to get your hole francie


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