A 70" tv, a 2016 car and a Dog

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Just a couple of small issues to pick up.

He's on HAP - which is basically, 'we're ****ing stupid and didn't build enough social housing so now we need to pay private landlords to do it, and you fools keep voting us in' So he's essentially in a council house. It wouldn't be the first time someone on a council house had a few luxuries.

He's working or has recently been working, so pays tax himself.

Thirdly when has financial prudence or not squatting out a load of kids ever been something only practiced by the minority?
I expect the telly and the car are both on HP - another facet progress.

Edit: This 'story' is about a mother****ing paperwork malfunction. The Journal needs to be shut down for the mental health of the nation.

THank you for being the only poster to focus on the real issue here.

All reminds me of the old days when you had to sell your bed sheets before the "relief officers" would give any help...

All these benefits are based on actual income not on how you spend it. Which if he has been made redundant will be low indeed.

Not on how they lived when he was in work. Sure folk here will say they should have saved, but how many here do that?

And yes, a total mess by the council. Again!

I am in a similar mess because of a foul up. Waiting for rent allowance to be sorted as the system means that if you cross the county line ( and I was facing eviction where I was as the ll was selling the house and finding a place that allows RA? ) So at present I am paying full rent; am nearly 80 by the way and on a small pension. Cutting back on everything else to sort it as rent comes first. Whatever else goes, rent gets paid.

Well into the second month of this mess; at one place it lasted 7 months before it got sorted so I am not hoping for immediate action, and yes I took this cottage with full permission from ll re rent allowance.

This is not an instant award; the paperwork involved is amazing. Proof at every level and all gets checked.
Amd no not social housing; private rental. So this family will not even be on a council list now.

As for luxuries; yes I have a roof and a bed and food. All I need. Even a small car that will soon be heading for the great scrapyard in the sky . No hope of replacing it.

SHOCK HORROR ! I have a dog! And cats! Rescues....Small dog who alerts m to any would be intruders. Vet visits are very very rare thankfully. I do not begrudge them their food, and beg at butcher shops.

That family has been messed about with by the Council; who are we to judge?
Does everyone here live prudently in case they suddenly lose their jobs?

My generation was raised to know how to manage with little; seems today's folk are now.Also we could not buy on HP

danger mouse wrote: »

Why is this even news?  It must have been a slow news weekend, I guess the journal are oblivious to all the scandals and other more important real news out there this weekend. Give the readers what they want I suppose. Trade deficits and border adjustments are just not the kind of topics the readers of the journal are interested in. Honestly I don’t understand what the article was trying to highlight or what the guy and his family wanted? They haven’t been evicted and this is an easy fix. Then it descended into a creep fest.
 
This man with a 70-inch TV and some tattoos is supposedly scamming the system. The Daily mail should write a 2-page spread tomorrow morning. Sensational fraud solved by the internetz. It’s kind of creepy reading some of the comments too. People have stalked his page, know lots of details about penalty points and his wife's license. That's just nonce behaviour and people getting involved, really should take a hard look at what they're doing with their lives. The fact of the matter is we don't know what's going on between this family and the government, HSE or whatever they’re called. We can only hope that due diligence was carried out on this application and that’s all we can assume, with no evidence pointing to the contrary at all. What is the requirement of receiving this payment anyone know the income threshold?
 

 It reminds me of all those fake stories about Black women getting handed the keys to a free house when they got off the plane at Dublin airport, leaving their new prams on the side of the road because they would get new ones off the Government. Peace out boards.

HAP is a more complicated system than RA and allows for people to top up rent if their house is higher than the limit we have with RA. So they pay more and can also thus take a better house. And they can still get HAP if they are in effect less dependent on welfare than they would be on RA.

When I moved, I was told that as I was getting RA where I lived before and because of my advanced age. I would still be on RA even though this is an HAP area. I was also told that I was lucky ( by HSE) as HAP applications take up to 8 weeks to come through.

Checks re rigorous as is right.

I seem to remember from somewhere on boards reading that these days there is a Garda vetting?

RA and HAP are not instant. Any landlord or agent surely knows that? I was prepared for some delay. Not for the foul up that has developed .

To lose a job when you have kids etc is a trauma.