A 70" tv, a 2016 car and a Dog

jameorahiely

Yet taxpayers are paying their rent for them.


Is there any of these "impending homelessness" stories legit?

Are the people who rent privately/pay mortgages mugs?


Yes I think we are.

http://www.thejournal.ie/homeless-dublin-family-staff-parkgate-hall-3243257-Feb2017/

Donal55

jameorahiely wrote: »

Yet taxpayers are paying their rent for them.


Is there any of these "impending homelessness" stories legit?

Are the people who rent privately/pay mortgages mugs?


Yes I think we are.

http://www.thejournal.ie/homeless-dublin-family-staff-parkgate-hall-3243257-Feb2017/

Nothing in that article that mentions new cars and TVs.

b_mac2

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Mr McBoatface

As per the comments on the article "check his Facebook. 70 inch TV and 2016 car bought in October. I’d love to know how the council assessed his income"

jameorahiely

Donal55 wrote: »

jameorahiely wrote: »

Yet taxpayers are paying their rent for them.


Is there any of these "impending homelessness" stories legit?

Are the people who rent privately/pay mortgages mugs?


Yes I think we are.

http://www.thejournal.ie/homeless-dublin-family-staff-parkgate-hall-3243257-Feb2017/

Nothing in that article that mentions new cars and TVs.

You'd have to go to his facebook page for those kind of facts. They wouldn't fit well beside the sad face picture abd woe is me story in the journal

Where does it say anything about TVs cars or dogs?

Donal55

He may have got redundancy. I don't bother with facebuke or comments in de journal.
Next of all we'll be adding links to Politics.ie for God's sake.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

I loled because I read the article as "Family being face kicked out of rental home"

Now that would have been a story.

jameorahiely

jameorahiely wrote: »

Yet taxpayers are paying their rent for them.


Is there any of these "impending homelessness" stories legit?

Are the people who rent privately/pay mortgages mugs?


Yes I think we are.

http://www.thejournal.ie/homeless-dublin-family-staff-parkgate-hall-3243257-Feb2017/

Omg, obviously this family must represent all people who face losing their homes without exception.

The nerve.

jameorahiely

Donal55 wrote: »

He may have got redundancy. I don't bother with facebuke or comments in de journal.
Next of all we'll be adding links to Politics.ie for God's sake.

So himself and the family are homeless (living with his mother and decide to have a third child) and their priorities are a brand new car and a 70"tv, leaving them unable to pay their rent in their new hap house.
But that's ok because Jimmy taxpayer will sub them?

Nah

enzo roco

His brother posted about the car.
He bought it for his brother, and pays €260 a month for it. Getting kicked out of their family home, so the brother buys a 162d car, makes sense.

Reading the article and the comments, they deserve no sympathy.

jameorahiely

enzo roco wrote: »

His brother posted about the car.
He bought it for his brother, and pays €260 a month for it. Getting kicked out of their family home, so the brother buys a 162d car, makes sense.

Reading the article and the comments, they deserve no sympathy.

Her cousin also posted about the car, said it was a company car :pac:


If that was the case, wouldn't the company recieve the speeding fine?

jimmycrackcorm

enzo roco wrote: »

His brother posted about the car.
He bought it for his brother, and pays €260 a month for it. Getting kicked out of their family home, so the brother buys a 162d car, makes sense.

Reading the article and the comments, they deserve no sympathy.

Just leaving it up there.

Mod: No you're not. No facebook links please.

No one needs money for a brand new car.
PCP finance?

GhostyMcGhost

What's a dog got to do with anything?

Jesus from some of the lads in here, unless your on €100k a year you should be living in a granny flat eating pot noodles every night with no TV and the heating most definitely off

SEPT 23 1989

Why is it always the ones taking the p1ss who are making the headlines undermining peoples sympathy for genuine cases for people who are in real trouble

Its as if its on purpose....

jameorahiely

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Why is it always the ones taking the p1ss who are making the headlines undermining peoples sympathy for genuine cases for people who are in real trouble

Its as if its on purpose....

Maybe the journalists just can't find genuine cases

jameorahiely

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Why is it always the ones taking the p1ss who are making the headlines undermining peoples sympathy for genuine cases for people who are in real trouble

Its as if its on purpose....

Maybe the journalists just can't find genuine cases

Charles Babbage

Mr McBoatface wrote: »

As per the comments on the article "check his Facebook. 70 inch TV and 2016 car bought in October. I’d love to know how the council assessed his income"

Can't he live under the TV?

steddyeddy

So basically people are trawling through his Facebook looking for things to get offended at.

VonLuck

steddyeddy wrote: »

So basically people are twaling through his Facebook looking for things to get offended at.

At least one person did and brought it to the attention of everyone else I guess.

Mr McBoatface

steddyeddy wrote: »

So basically people are twaling through his Facebook looking for things to get offended at.

Stories like this smack of poor journalism and undermine the credibility of people who are genuinely in need of social housing.

I think that's what offends more than anything.

jameorahiely

steddyeddy wrote: »

So basically people are twaling through his Facebook looking for things to get offended at.

No. The recent big tatoos and the abundance of concert tickets for both here and abroad would have neen mentioned too if that was the case

steddyeddy

It's a story about a person possibly abusing the system. Not representive lf the majority of people who get state aid. By writing a story like this the Journal is bringing more stigma to social welfare. It's pathetic.

steddyeddy

jameorahiely wrote: »

No. The recent big tatoos and the abundance of concert tickets for both here and abroad would have neen mentioned too if that was the case

Is there a point? One guy on dole or whatever has tattoos. The Wall Street Journal missed a beat by not publishing this.

osarusan

Stunned at this lapse in standards from the bastion of integrity that is the journal.ie

jameorahiely

steddyeddy wrote: »

Is there a point? One guy on dole or whatever has tattoos. The Wall Street Journal missed a beat by not publishing this.

There seems to be plenty of money when it comed to treating themselves. Housing their family doesn't seem to be a priority for them. If housing their family isn't top priority for them maybe the state needs to step in and remove their children.



100% of poster people so far for the homeless camaigns are not all they are portrayed.

Grayson

So boards has turned into a place for doxing? jameorahiely & jimmycrackcorm, don't suppose you'd like to post your facebook profiles? Maybe address and telephone too.

jameorahiely

Grayson wrote: »

So boards has turned into a place for doxing? jameorahiely & jimmycrackcorm, don't suppose you'd like to post your facebook profiles? Maybe address and telephone too.

Standing for a sad face picture in the journal kinda doxes yourself.

the groutch

can't HSH organise a whip round for them?

CalamariFritti

I think its a perfectly legit question to raise. Why would someone who obviously has enough money to spend on what I would call non essentials and luxury items has to be housed by the tax payer? And if that someone decides to 'go public' with their (non) sob story they will then scrutinised by the public. You get what you ask for.

jameorahiely

gctest50 wrote: »

the Journal is possibly providing an important service to the public ( law of unintended consequences stylee )

the absolute scraping of the sluice of society can't help themselves bar get offended and add to the comments section of the online paper

this keeps them busy and stops them interfering

It is highlighting the sham that is the homeless crises and also the cohort of people who expect handouts for having skewered priorities

gctest50

steddyeddy wrote: »

It's a story about a person possibly abusing the system. Not representive lf the majority of people who get state aid. By writing a story like this the Journal is bringing more stigma to social welfare. It's pathetic.

the Journal is possibly providing an important service to the public ( law of unintended consequences stylee )

the absolute scraping of the sluice of society can't help themselves bar get offended and add to the comments section of the online paper

this keeps them busy and stops them interfering

Tea drinker

steddyeddy wrote: »

So basically people are trawling through his Facebook looking for things to get offended at.

Well a story was presented by the journal, it seems to lack salient facts, it looks that these people filled in some blanks.... I really have no issue with this.

Canis Lupus

Grayson wrote: »

So boards has turned into a place for doxing? jameorahiely & jimmycrackcorm, don't suppose you'd like to post your facebook profiles? Maybe address and telephone too.

Investigative journalism. Something the Journal didn't bother with.

gctest50

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Investigative journalism............

Investigative journalism. ? no it's not,

it's clicking on facebook, jumping to conclusions and posting about it to get "likes" - more or less reducing the sum total of human learning bit by bit

Investigative journalism is a form of journalism in which reporters deeply investigate a single topic of interest, such as serious crimes, political corruption, or corporate wrongdoing. An investigative journalist may spend months or years researching and preparing a report.

jameorahiely

enzo roco wrote: »

His brother posted about the car.
He bought it for his brother, and pays €260 a month for it. Getting kicked out of their family home, so the brother buys a 162d car, makes sense.

Reading the article and the comments, they deserve no sympathy.

I was just browsing the hearld newspapers facebook page. Under an article dated 14 Feb about rents surging, this car financier is telling how they are homeless having to sleep in drug filled hostels.


:pac:

Ubbquittious

GhostyMcGhost wrote: »

What's a dog got to do with anything?

Jesus from some of the lads in here, unless your on €100k a year you should be living in a granny flat eating pot noodles every night with no TV and the heating most definitely off

A dog is clearly the height of excess. Used to have one myself but had to give him up for adoption after I was spending thousands a week on dog food

jameorahiely

Ubbquittious wrote: »

A dog is clearly the height of excess. Used to have one myself but had to give him up for adoption after I was spending thousands a week on dog food

No vets bills or grooming? Does the state cover that too?

For Forks Sake

bubblypop wrote: »

No one needs money for a brand new car.
PCP finance?

PCP still requires a deposit of several thousand €

ted1

For Forks Sake wrote: »

PCP still requires a deposit of several thousand €

And monthly repayments which could go towards rent. We have two 2005 cars in our household that have no finance and enable us to pay our mortgage. We live within our means.

learn_more

This is the first time in ages I've heard anyone equate the size of ones TV to ones overall wealth and standard of life. I though all that died out since the late 90's.

jameorahiely

learn_more wrote: »

This is the first time in ages I've heard anyone equate the size of ones TV to ones overall wealth and standard of life. I though all that died out since the late 90's.

No home but pays the guts of 2000+ for a tv.

jameorahiely

jameorahiely wrote: »

Yet taxpayers are paying their rent for them.


Is there any of these "impending homelessness" stories legit?

Are the people who rent privately/pay mortgages mugs?


Yes I think we are.

http://www.thejournal.ie/homeless-dublin-family-staff-parkgate-hall-3243257-Feb2017/

Surely a 70" tv is a sign of greater poverty? It's always the lowest socio-economic grouping that put a disproportionate portion of their income into that sort of "status symbol" consumer stuff.

jameorahiely

jameorahiely wrote: »

No. The recent big tatoos and the abundance of concert tickets for both here and abroad would have neen mentioned too if that was the case

These are decidedly howaya things that only a howaya could envy. Let him at it.

jameorahiely

Deleted User wrote: »

These are decidedly howaya things that only a howaya could envy. Let him at it.

:pac:


While there is truth in what you say, and also what you say regarding the tv, still and all I don't see why we should pay his rent for him &co.

Canis Lupus

Deleted User wrote: »

Surely a 70" tv is a sign of greater poverty? It's always the lowest socio-economic grouping that put a disproportionate portion of their income into that sort of "status symbol" consumer stuff.

Sure it probably fell off a lorry.

Pretty sickening alright, it boggles the mind how someone would be so brazen to have their sob story posted on a widely read news site with full name and picture while leaving their said fb page on public where every luxury purchase is flaunted for the world to see.

Captions like "Just leave this here" on a brand new 20k car, "damn you sports mode" and posts a picture of a speeding fine.

Some neck.

Samuel T. Cogley

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Sure it probably fell off a lorry.

Is it still working?

Samuel T. Cogley

Just a couple of small issues to pick up.

He's on HAP - which is basically, 'we're ****ing stupid and didn't build enough social housing so now we need to pay private landlords to do it, and you fools keep voting us in' So he's essentially in a council house. It wouldn't be the first time someone on a council house had a few luxuries.

He's working or has recently been working, so pays tax himself.

Thirdly when has financial prudence or not squatting out a load of kids ever been something only practiced by the minority?
I expect the telly and the car are both on HP - another facet progress.

Edit: This 'story' is about a mother****ing paperwork malfunction. The Journal needs to be shut down for the mental health of the nation.

danger mouse

Why is this even news?  It must have been a slow news weekend, I guess the journal are oblivious to all the scandals and other more important real news out there this weekend. Give the readers what they want I suppose. Trade deficits and border adjustments are just not the kind of topics the readers of the journal are interested in. Honestly I don’t understand what the article was trying to highlight or what the guy and his family wanted? They haven’t been evicted and this is an easy fix. Then it descended into a creep fest.
 
This man with a 70-inch TV and some tattoos is supposedly scamming the system. The Daily mail should write a 2-page spread tomorrow morning. Sensational fraud solved by the internetz. It’s kind of creepy reading some of the comments too. People have stalked his page, know lots of details about penalty points and his wife's license. That's just nonce behaviour and people getting involved, really should take a hard look at what they're doing with their lives. The fact of the matter is we don't know what's going on between this family and the government, HSE or whatever they’re called. We can only hope that due diligence was carried out on this application and that’s all we can assume, with no evidence pointing to the contrary at all. What is the requirement of receiving this payment anyone know the income threshold?
 

 It reminds me of all those fake stories about Black women getting handed the keys to a free house when they got off the plane at Dublin airport, leaving their new prams on the side of the road because they would get new ones off the Government. Peace out boards.