Have you ever lost respect for a hero?

DEFTLEFTHAND · 18-02-2017 09:44PM #1

I'm a big Eric Clapton fan, but from his autobiography two things stand out.

1. When he was in his early 20s he got a girl pregnant. Instead of taking on his responsibilities he gave her money and ordered her to go get an abortion.

2. He hooked with a young girl when he was in his 40s and got her hooked on heroin. He later got off it, but she died from her addiction.

Another one is Sid Vicious of the Sex Pistols. At a house party one night Sid picked up the house cat Charles, he brought him into the sitting room and strung him up from the light fixture with a wire. The cat struggled before finally succumbing and pissing on the carpet.

Nobody did anything to stop this psycho, although all who tell story say they regret not doing so.

Donal55 · 18-02-2017 09:46PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I'm a big Eric Clapton fan, but from his autobiography two things stand out.

1. When he was in his early 20s he got a girl pregnant. Instead of taking on his responsibilities he gave her money and ordered her to go get an abortion.

2. He hooked with a young girl when he was in his 40s and got her hooked on heroin. He later got off it, but she died from her addiction.

Another one is Sid Vicious of the Sex Pistols. At a house party one night Sid picked up the house cat Charles, he brought him into the sitting room and strung him up from the light fixture with a wire. The cat struggled before finally succumbing and pissing on the carpet.

Nobody did anything to stop this psycho, although all who tell story say they regret not doing so.

I thought Sids treatment of Nancy would have been more apt.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 18-02-2017 09:47PM

Clint Eastwood could talk to all the chairs in the world and I'd still love him.

bear1 · 18-02-2017 09:47PM

Hitler.
Just went nuts there in 39.

Noddyholder · 18-02-2017 09:51PM

I kinda gone of hero's, there is never enough toffee ones in the Tin/bowl whatever.

allthedoyles · 18-02-2017 09:52PM

Garth Brooks springs to mind

jca · 18-02-2017 09:55PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I'm a big Eric Clapton fan, but from his autobiography two things stand out.

1. When he was in his early 20s he got a girl pregnant. Instead of taking on his responsibilities he gave her money and ordered her to go get an abortion.

2. He hooked with a young girl when he was in his 40s and got her hooked on heroin. He later got off it, but she died from her addiction.

Another one is Sid Vicious of the Sex Pistols. At a house party one night Sid picked up the house cat Charles, he brought him into the sitting room and strung him up from the light fixture with a wire. The cat struggled before finally succumbing and pissing on the carpet.

Nobody did anything to stop this psycho, although all who tell story say they regret not doing so.

I wouldn't class either of those self centered cretins as hero's in the first place.

munster87 · 18-02-2017 09:55PM

Batman in Batman and Robin

Lorelli! · 18-02-2017 09:57PM

I wouldn't say he was my hero but I watched a documentary a few years ago on The Rolling Stones that kind of turned me off Mick Jagger. Still love their music though.

Cameo · 18-02-2017 09:58PM

Clapton also publicly expressed really racist views - and yes that was his opinion, but the problem was, he was quite happy to jam with black blues artists and make millions from an art form that originated among black folks in the Mississippi Delta.

An obvious one but Polanski - still adore his work so it's conflicting.

I love 70s rock but dislike the culture of sex with underage kids which was part of it - even if those kids were doing everything they could to have sex with the musicians and DJs.

18-02-2017 10:00PM

I don't have any heroes. There are people I admire but none of them are famous. There are a few celebrities who I like to think are decent genuine human beings and would be a little disappointed if I found out there was something horrible there.

Cameo · 18-02-2017 10:01PM

jca wrote: »

I wouldn't class either of those self centered cretins as hero's in the first place.

But they are to some. I can see why regarding Clapton and his guitar playing. Can't understand why anyone (other than kids trying to be edgy) would hero worship Sid Vicious though - what on earth did he contribute other than being quite the scumbag.

John Lydon I'd understand - because of PIL though, not The Sex Pistols.

Lorelli! · 18-02-2017 10:04PM

Cameo wrote: »

Clapton also publicly expressed really racist views - and yes that was his opinion, but the problem was, he was quite happy to jam with black blues artists and make millions from an art form that originated among black folks in the Mississippi Delta

I think I recall watching something where they mentioned that Clapton was jealous of Jimmi Hendrix but then again, who wouldn't be

Cameo · 18-02-2017 10:06PM

And Hendrix loved Clapton - apparently the opportunity to work with him was why Jimi moved to England.

Noddyholder · 18-02-2017 10:06PM

Hero's ? what are they exactly ? a lot of people would say there parents are there hero's, Lots of people would say President Obama & Trump ? who decides, plus there all human and most certainly have there flaws.

Were the passengers on the United airline flight 93 hero's for stopping the course of the flight or were the Bombers who knew they were going to die hero's for doing something they believed in ?

I going back to my hero chocolates which were actually manufactured To compete against Mars celebrations. My hero's.

osarusan · 18-02-2017 10:07PM

Not sure I have heroes, but there are people who I really respect for what they do, and it's sad to find out that, while they might be great at the thing I admire them for, other aspects of their life are less admirable.

Woody Allen springs to mind.

Cameo · 18-02-2017 10:07PM

Bit of pedantry here regarding the definition of hero tbh!

And Celebrations all the way.

18-02-2017 10:12PM

Noddyholder wrote: »

I kinda gone of hero's, .

So, what do we do with our lives, we leave only a mark. Will our story shine like a light or end in the dark?

twinytwo · 18-02-2017 10:15PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I'm a big Eric Clapton fan, but from his autobiography two things stand out.

1. When he was in his early 20s he got a girl pregnant. Instead of taking on his responsibilities he gave her money and ordered her to go get an abortion.

2. He hooked with a young girl when he was in his 40s and got her hooked on heroin. He later got off it, but she died from her addiction.

Another one is Sid Vicious of the Sex Pistols. At a house party one night Sid picked up the house cat Charles, he brought him into the sitting room and strung him up from the light fixture with a wire. The cat struggled before finally succumbing and pissing on the carpet.

Nobody did anything to stop this psycho, although all who tell story say they regret not doing so.

Define hero though?

Lorelli! · 18-02-2017 10:15PM

Cameo wrote: »

And Hendrix loved Clapton - apparently the opportunity to work with him was why Jimi moved to England.

The Who, Clapton, John Mayall, maybe I think early Fleetwood mac, were probably influences for his move. Correct me if I'm wrong but i think there was probably a bit of a clic there that may have felt threatened by Hendrix aswell.

18-02-2017 10:15PM

Maybe not quite a hero of mine but an actor I admired was Charlton Heston. That was until I saw his stance on gun law and the Columbine massacre. He's just an old fool

DEFTLEFTHAND · 18-02-2017 10:20PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Maybe not quite a hero of mine but an actor I admired was Charlton Heston. That was until I saw his stance on gun law and the Columbine massacre. He's just an old fool

Michael Moore manipulated that whole situation in the movie.

There's nothing wrong about respecting the second amendment and being a member of the NRA.

Lorelli! · 18-02-2017 10:21PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Maybe not quite a hero of mine but an actor I admired was Charlton Heston. That was until I saw his stance on gun law and the Columbine massacre. He's just an old fool

Oh ye, that's one of mine too. God damn him to hell

Phoenix Wright · 18-02-2017 10:22PM

Michael Owen. He was my hero when I started watching football, but then he did the unforgivable and went to United..

DEFTLEFTHAND · 18-02-2017 10:23PM

Phoenix Wright wrote: »

Michael Owen. He was my hero when I started watching football, but then he did the unforgivable and went to United..

At least he finally got his hands on a Premier League medal.

Wang Kerr · 18-02-2017 10:25PM

I suppose Lance Armstrong is an obvious one
Pierce Brosnan not so much

18-02-2017 10:26PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote:

There's nothing wrong about respecting the second amendment and being a member of the NRA.

They had the right to own slaves at one stage. Just because they have a right doesn't make it right. That's my humble opinion.

tomwaterford · 18-02-2017 10:27PM

Phoenix Wright wrote: »

Michael Owen. He was my hero when I started watching football, but then he did the unforgivable and went to United..

I really expected this post to end up about his punditry skills

Dirty Dingus McGee · 18-02-2017 10:32PM

tomwaterford wrote: »

I really expected this post to end up about his punditry skills

I don't mind him as a pundit, he's nowhere near as annoying as a lot of other pundits.

Any man that confuses Jordan Henderson with Kolo Toure is OK in my book.

18-02-2017 10:33PM

Not a hero, but I really loved Rolf Harris when I was a kiddy purely because of animal hospital.

Little bit of my childhood died with his convictions for indecent assaults. Just doesn't grok with my memory of this kindly man, tearing up over injured little kitties and looking like a nice grandfather.

DanielODonnell · 18-02-2017 10:40PM

When Rory McIlroy held up the Ulster banner flag to alienate the entire Catholic fanbase of Northern Ireland even though he is Catholic.

Have you ever lost respect for a hero?

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