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Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Topcat32


    If Michael Fennelly plays much part this year I'll be surprised

    He wont play in the league, I doubt he would play even if he could but I think there is a decent chance he will play in the championship, he certainly seems fully committed to playing this year. Unlike others his rehab process is of interest to his career, if it wasnt I think he would be retired allready.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Topcat32


    If we could get the following team/panel settled for the championship we won't be far away.

    1 Eoin Murphy
    2 Paul Murphy
    3 Padraig Walsh
    4 Evan Cody
    5 joey holden
    6 Cilian Buckley
    7 Kieran Joyce
    8 Mick Fennelly
    9 Conor Fogarty
    10 TJ Reid
    11 Walter Walsh
    12 Richie leahy
    13 Richie Hogan
    14 Kevin Kelly
    15 Colin Fennelly

    16 Richie Reid
    17 Conor Delaney
    18 Robert Lennon
    19 Shane Prendergast
    20 Conor o Shea
    21 Lester Ryan
    22 Ollie Walsh
    23 Pat Lyng
    24 James Maher
    25 John Joe Farrell
    26 Ger Aylward
    27 Luke Scanlon
    28 John Walsh

    Thats not far off the panel apart from John Power, Chris Bolger and especially Liam Blanchfield who I think will see far more game time than Richie Leahy. For me a fit Ger Aylward is a much better option than Kevin Kelly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson




    live coverage of the club hurling finals on now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,327 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    Unlucky mooncoin. Left themselves too much to do after the first half. Fantastic second half effort though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭brookville


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Unlucky mooncoin. Left themselves too much to do after the first half. Fantastic second half effort though.

    Hard luck to mooncoin,awful to lose by a point but a fantastic journey and hopefully they can build on their success.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭paulie gaultieri


    Jaysus Richie Power and Rice are slotting over some lovely points.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Congratulations to Carrickshock, great performance. Delighted for Richie Power, Michael Rice, Jon Tennyson and the rest of the team


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Twiceasnice97


    Has Padraig Walsh much expirence at full back? Our own James Barry has done a good job and is of similar stature so it'll be interesting to see how he gets on.

    are you sure?

    Barry seems a lot bigger to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Twiceasnice97


    brookville wrote: »
    I expected cody to get a chance corner back while delaney will see action in the coming weeks.
    I'm surprised kevin kelly only lasted 40 odd minutes mid week could be fit enough for sunday unless cody is hoping he can reproduce the same performance against clare a few years ago in the park.


    Cody turned down UL afaik
    wouldn't train with them I believe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Rasputin11


    are you sure?

    Barry seems a lot bigger to me

    Barry surely 2 or 3 inches taller and stronger build of a man too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭Morris Moss


    Rasputin11 wrote: »
    Barry surely 2 or 3 inches taller and stronger build of a man too.

    Padraig is about 6 foot, don't know his weight but I agree Barry looks bigger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭dubcat51


    Currently at the cork v dublin game.cotk are woefull in the full back line.crummy just sent off for dublin.cork trying to feed the full fwd line all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,327 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    dubcat51 wrote: »
    Currently at the cork v dublin game.cotk are woefull in the full back line.crummy just sent off for dublin.cork trying to feed the full fwd line all the time.

    Terrible decision to send him off. Never a yellow the second one. Cork are woeful, doesn't say a lot for Clare. KK should beat them tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Terrible decision to send him off. Never a yellow the second one. Cork are woeful, doesn't say a lot for Clare. KK should beat them tomorrow

    cork were on a high going into the league after beating everyone in the munster league , think there was an air of over confidence from them tonight , i hope to see a similar backlash from clare tomorrow as dublin showed tonight kilkenny will be saying the same thing so i expect tomorrow to be close , but yeah kilkenny should win


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Topcat32


    Congratulations to Carrickshock, a club that has given a lot to Kilkenny in recent years and has suffered a bit for it, delighted for Richie Power, John Tennyson and Michael Rice, represent everything that is good about Kilkenny hurling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    Topcat32 wrote: »
    Congratulations to Carrickshock, a club that has given a lot to Kilkenny in recent years and has suffered a bit for it, delighted for Richie Power, John Tennyson and Michael Rice, represent everything that is good about Kilkenny hurling.

    mooncoin were very unlucky also , the first game was a cracker , 2nd game all i could do is ask how the hell did carrickshock end up at that level in the first place , the powers and the tennysons were excellent , two scores from richie power and pat tennyson in the latter stages of the game stand out , 4 years ago was it when they lost to clara in the senior final ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,103 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    Topcat32 wrote: »
    Congratulations to Carrickshock, a club that has given a lot to Kilkenny in recent years and has suffered a bit for it, delighted for Richie Power, John Tennyson and Michael Rice, represent everything that is good about Kilkenny hurling.

    mooncoin were very unlucky also , the first game was a cracker , 2nd game all i could do is ask how the hell did carrickshock end up at that level in the first place , the powers and the tennysons were excellent , two scores from richie power and pat tennyson in the latter stages of the game stand out , 4 years ago was it when they lost to clara in the senior final ?
    Kilkenny senior championship was massively competitive when they were relegated, even when they were in the county final it was widely agreed that beyond their star players carrickshock had a serious tail on the team and that they could be at risk of relegation. In any given year a lot of teams (dicksboro were another) were as likely to be in a relegation final as a county final.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭unrealtime


    With only. 12 senior clubs and an outstanding selection of players for such a small county, we have real quality at intermediate level. Many of our intermediate teams would be senior elsewhere.

    As regards the county, I hope I'm completely wrong but I am worried about today and the rest of the league. With many of the old certainties and reliables gone, I don't believe that Cody has much of a clue as to his best selectionright now. Hope he listens more to his fellow team managers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Cornerback1


    unrealtime wrote: »
    With only. 12 senior clubs and an outstanding selection of players for such a small county, we have real quality at intermediate level. Many of our intermediate teams would be senior elsewhere.

    As regards the county, I hope I'm completely wrong but I am worried about today and the rest of the league. With many of the old certainties and reliables gone, I don't believe that Cody has much of a clue as to his best selectionright now. Hope he listens more to his fellow team managers.


    Definately - if you look at teams who have won Intermediate and came up, Clare for example, their is such small margins between senior and intermediate. B'brige would be the same.


    In other counties, there is a huge difference between senior and intermediate and intermediate to junior to an extent also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Cornerback1


    Clare up by 4pts at half-time. Like last week, the opposition get an early goal and we don't start from the start.

    Over reliant on frees. Hopefully we can pick it up in 2nd half and push on. Big 35mins ahead.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,306 ✭✭✭randd1


    8 points in one half of hurling, most from frees from what I gather, against Clare, one of the worst defences out there?

    I know there's no AI titles won in February, but they can certainly be lost in February by not getting things right and continuing in that vein.

    My two biggest worries are who do we have to do a covering job in midfield to allow a slow defence to sit back and be compact, and where is the pace and invention up front apart from Reid and Hogan? Our forwards and midfield are seriously limited in the striking, pace and creativity.

    Not just that, but the ball forward always seems to be a sky ball, and totally unsuited to favouring forwards. Fair enough forwards have to be able to win their own ball, but the odds can be tipped in their favour.

    I worry for this year, and the next few unless something resembling a more inventive game starts coming from Kilkenny, we look stale and predictable in our approach


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭davidx40


    I think we are really going to struggle this year and next few years , when brian said last september about players on panel that were going to be big stars i dont know who he was talking about , we just dont have quality anymore its not there , when you see players playing inter county hurling that cant hit ball on weak side you know your in trouble


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,369 ✭✭✭JJs Left Hand


    We sound like an absolute shambles. Getting hammered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,747 ✭✭✭brookville


    We sound like an absolute shambles. Getting hammered

    Very disappointing I know it's only mid february but worrying times ahead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    davidx40 wrote: »
    I think we are really going to struggle this year and next few years , when brian said last september about players on panel that were going to be big stars i dont know who he was talking about , we just dont have quality anymore its not there , when you see players playing inter county hurling that cant hit ball on weak side you know your in trouble

    These things come in cycles. I'm not writing Kilkenny off yet but the constant success has to end sometime. You just can't keep producing top players the whole time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Cornerback1


    Listened to it on radio. Very disappointing. If we scored penalty, it could have changed dynamic of game but itwould have been unfair on Clare.

    We were very poor - probably worse that last week. Only scored 12pts and i think only 4 or 5 from play.

    To put that into context: Every other team in all the hurling leagues today scored more than 12pts. Tyrone, who got beat, by about 20pts, also scored 12pts. To me that's a frightening stat!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Topcat32


    Firstly a very definite chance of relegation now and Wexford will fancy their chances against us in the Summer. I guess this has been coming, we have lost some incredible players over the last few years who havent been replaced. A half fit Kevin Kelly starting is a sign of that. Unless Colin Fennelly and Ger Alyward have the year of their lives this year we are in trouble, only players on the panel that have real speed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭unrealtime


    Cody should take a sabbatical for the rest of the league and let the rest of the management team take over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Topcat32


    unrealtime wrote: »
    Cody should take a sabbatical for the rest of the league and let the rest of the management team take over.

    What would be the benifit of that? It clearly wont happen, just interested in what you think the rest of the management could do?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 931 ✭✭✭Cornerback1


    unrealtime wrote: »
    Cody should take a sabbatical for the rest of the league and let the rest of the management team take over.

    Not time for knee-jerk reactions. We are where we are. Granted 2 bad games. Both games we started very slowly and conceded goals putting us on the back foot straight away.

    We knew this was coming. The players we had over the past 10+ years were players for the ages. We must take the rough with the smooth.

    The Cork game will be a huge game in NP. Real chance of relegation this year. I just want to see an improvement in workrate and the simple skills of the game.

    **Padraig Walsh was excellent in the first 60mins by all accounts.


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