Eir rural FTTH thread

tsue921i8wljb3 · 14-02-2017 10:17PM

People are being very trusting of promised dates that have now been pushed back on at least three separate occasions.

Grumpypants · 14-02-2017 10:41PM

ratracer wrote: »

I had the same call. Details: 20Gb monthly allowance, 18mth contract which is €100 to break. I'm just gonna hold out now until the summer, hopefully FTTH will be live by then.

Think the allowance is 20gb per day. It looks weird as it says the monthly allowance is 20gb per day. If you go over they just slow the speed you dont get charged extra.

100 to break the contract isnt bad. If i thought i'd be waiting till august - september for fiber id nearly do it. Need to see how much it cists to get out of my existing eir contract. I doubt it us as cheap.

Kristopherus · 14-02-2017 10:54PM

rob808 wrote: »

There no point going with imagine LTE especially if your getting FTTH sometime in 2017.

Seeing as the Eir is unwilling to be definite about their deadlines, it would be well worth most people's time to jump to Imagine. They have a 12 month contract, and, imo, those 12 months will very likely be well gone before Eir come calling.

rob808 · 14-02-2017 11:06PM

Kristopherus wrote: »

Seeing as the Eir is unwilling to be definite about their deadlines, it would be well worth most people's time to jump to Imagine. They have a 12 month contract, and, imo, those 12 months will very likely be well gone before Eir come calling.

I am not saying don't get imagine LTE it just messy because you have to get reconnect to the exchange which could take a couple days I was waiting a 1 week and half.If people want to get imagine LTE while wait for FTTH then go ahead it there choice.

oneofakind32 · 16-02-2017 04:50PM

This Eircom/Eir fibre roll out is a joke of the highest order. Eircom spent 10m on rebranding? Something like that? (payed to a UK company as well). Maybe is they invested in their network they might get more customers. I have been checking the eir fibre rollout map on a regular basis since it was the eircom efibre rollout map. It must be 4 years since this started. I have been checking my parent's phone number in Co. Galway. For a long time it said 6 months. Every time I would look at it and think, oh great it will be there when I go home in sept for a week. Never happens. The estimate they are now giving is 1 year! It's already 2017, this thread started in 2015, pretty sure the roll out started in 2014, maybe even 2013?

Gonzo · 16-02-2017 05:14PM

oneofakind32 wrote: »

The estimate they are now giving is 1 year! It's already 2017, this thread started in 2015, pretty sure the roll out started in 2014, maybe even 2013?

They testing FTTH for a few years in Sandyford and Wexford and a rural trial in 2014 in Mayo. This rollout was announced last March with the first customers going live end of September. It's only now that this rollout is starting to gain a bit of momentum.

oneofakind32 · 16-02-2017 05:18PM

Sorry! Maybe I'm in the wrong thread then. I just wanted to complain about the Eir's efibre rollout which has been going on for years and their stupid map which never delivers on promises.

knipex · 16-02-2017 05:45PM

oneofakind32 wrote: »

Sorry! Maybe I'm in the wrong thread then. I just wanted to complain about the Eir's efibre rollout which has been going on for years and their stupid map which never delivers on promises.

What map ??

rob808 · 16-02-2017 06:05PM

knipex wrote: »

What map ??

www.fibrerollout.ie

16-02-2017 06:16PM

John1993W wrote: »

Yes signed up. Install set for the end of the month/first week of March.

I spoke to an eir salesman, he said that all I need to do is call eir after 22 Feb to arrange a connection as I am already an eir customer.
He said installation in the area is scheduled for 8 March.

Tonio · 16-02-2017 09:11PM

Lots of fibre hanging from poles in Barryscourt and Ballintubber on the back road from Carrigtwohill towards Midleton. Lots of eir and contractor vans in the area over the last few weeks. Must be close to going live I'd say. Haven't seen any fibre hanging near to Midleton yet.

Kristopherus · 17-02-2017 12:10AM

rob808 wrote: »

I am not saying don't get imagine LTE it just messy because you have to get reconnect to the exchange which could take a couple days I was waiting a 1 week and half.If people want to get imagine LTE while wait for FTTH then go ahead it there choice.

And I'm not saying people should get it, but its definitely an option while people are waiting for Eir or anyone else to come calling.

As for myself, I'm happy out as I have 100mbps from my provider to my ancient copper line and am actually getting 80+:)

rob808 · 17-02-2017 12:24AM

Kristopherus wrote: »

And I'm not saying people should get it, but its definitely an option while people are waiting for Eir or anyone else to come calling.

As for myself, I'm happy out as I have 100mbps from my provider to my ancient copper line and am actually getting 80+:)

It not a bad stop gap but the 20GB a day download allowance kills it for me my brother watch a good bit of YouTube and I stream a good bit with Netflix and download updates for games.my 4mb isn't great it do for now but love to have FTTH soon just hope the Autumn 2017 date I got doesn't slip again

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knipex · 17-02-2017 08:48AM

rob808 wrote: »

www.fibrerollout.ie

Based on an earlier post I got the impression they were talking about a separate map that predates the fibrerollout one related to efibre rollout..

oneofakind32 wrote: »

This Eircom/Eir fibre roll out is a joke of the highest order. Eircom spent 10m on rebranding? Something like that? (payed to a UK company as well). Maybe is they invested in their network they might get more customers. I have been checking the eir fibre rollout map on a regular basis since it was the eircom efibre rollout map. It must be 4 years since this started. I have been checking my parent's phone number in Co. Galway. For a long time it said 6 months. Every time I would look at it and think, oh great it will be there when I go home in sept for a week. Never happens. The estimate they are now giving is 1 year! It's already 2017, this thread started in 2015, pretty sure the roll out started in 2014, maybe even 2013?

Billydoc · 17-02-2017 03:05PM

Hi, can anyone explain to me what an eir sales rep was telling me, they said, For anyone living outside the blue line in rural areas on the rollout map... eir are currently (in her words) 'putting some sort of boxes on poles' outside the blue line in rural areas and now houses are getting speeds of >100mbs when before was dsl or nothing. They said it's already live in some parts in donegal. What are these magic boxes eir are installing?

ED E · 17-02-2017 03:10PM

Billydoc wrote: »

Hi, can anyone explain to me what an eir sales rep was telling me, they said, For anyone living outside the blue line in rural areas on the rollout map... eir are currently (in her words) 'putting some sort of boxes on poles' outside the blue line in rural areas and now houses are getting speeds of >100mbs when before was dsl or nothing. They said it's already live in some parts in donegal. What are these magic boxes eir are installing?

They often talk ****e but there are two possibilities:
VDSL (9000+ sites nationwide): Green streetcabs. Work only for dense populations. Typically town gets this to the outskirts where blue lines start, where blue lines end you won't have them unless its another town.

G.Fast: Small pole mounted unit that injects 100Mb for up to about 300m. They were tested but no formal announcements that its been planned for a full rollout so unlikely.

My guess is you were being told lies to get commission.

Gwynston · 17-02-2017 03:26PM

ED E wrote: »

My guess is you were being told lies to get commission.

Wha? :eek:
Shurely not Eir.... :rolleyes:

9726_9726 · 17-02-2017 03:48PM

Billydoc wrote: »

eir sales rep

That is all.

rkdub · 17-02-2017 06:01PM

According to facebook last night.. Councillor Joe Byrne, Kinvara is 5 weeks away
(although last year, he shared a date of May 16..).
"EIR have informed me this evening that residents within 1.5km radius of Kinvara can order Fibre in 5 weeks time ( fibre to exchange almost complete)
At the same time very unhappy that certain areas in the locality are not being connected with fibre to the home by EIR at present. Makes no sense no matter whatever the excuse they give."

Johnboy1951 · 17-02-2017 06:04PM

rkdub wrote: »

According to facebook last night.. Councillor Joe Byrne, Kinvara is 5 weeks away
(although last year, he shared a date of May 16..).
"EIR have informed me this evening that residents within 1.5km radius of Kinvara can order Fibre in 5 weeks time ( fibre to exchange almost complete)
At the same time very unhappy that certain areas in the locality are not being connected with fibre to the home by EIR at present. Makes no sense no matter whatever the excuse they give."

Hehehehe, another one who thinks he should have the information on which commercial decisions of a company are made.
:rolleyes:

pegasus1 · 18-02-2017 12:41PM

Just seen Fibre being run from pole to pole on the N10 Waterford rd on a Blue line outside Kilkenny City...They seem to have done about 300 meters in about an hour..

Now question for the Tech heads here, they are not spooling the Fibre off the drum as normal as in they are letting it come from the side of the coil leaving the twist in it...would this affect the Fibre in any way, having the twist in it from pole to pole?

9726_9726 · 18-02-2017 01:53PM

pegasus1 wrote: »

Just seen Fibre being run from pole to pole on the N10 Waterford rd on a Blue line outside Kilkenny City...They seem to have done about 300 meters in about an hour..

Now question for the Tech heads here, they are not spooling the Fibre off the drum as normal as in they are letting it come from the side of the coil leaving the twist in it...would this affect the Fibre in any way, having the twist in it from pole to pole?

That's never good. I saw a load of council lads once doing that with heavy water pipe, was hilarious watching them play "Whack a Mole" afterwards trying to push one bit into the trench while it popped up somewhere else, then push that in and the other bit came up. Funny!

With fibre, most of it is "loose tube" where there is no mechanical connection between the fibres and the sheath. They are suspended in sticky jelly. This means that if the sheath gets pulled or abused, the fibres are free to move inside and get less grief.

I have to say though if I was on a job like that and my lads were coiling it off, I'd be looking for it to be re-done. It's just not good way to treat a cable.

18-02-2017 01:55PM

pegasus1 wrote: »

Just seen Fibre being run from pole to pole on the N10 Waterford rd on a Blue line outside Kilkenny City...They seem to have done about 300 meters in about an hour..

Now question for the Tech heads here, they are not spooling the Fibre off the drum as normal as in they are letting it come from the side of the coil leaving the twist in it...would this affect the Fibre in any way, having the twist in it from pole to pole?

I don't know, but I suspect that it makes it easier to coil up at the splice boxes.

long_b · 18-02-2017 10:06PM

Quick question on splicing - does each pole need to have a white slice box put on or do they only do that when you place your order?

The Cush · 18-02-2017 10:48PM

long_b wrote: »

Quick question on splicing - does each pole need to have a white slice box put on or do they only do that when you place your order?

Can't answer the question directly but poles in my area were marked recently with the letter S in the vicinity of clusters of houses so I assume they will be installed and cabled as the cable is being run.

18-02-2017 11:30PM

long_b wrote: »

Quick question on splicing - does each pole need to have a white slice box put on or do they only do that when you place your order?

From what I have seen around here, the splice boxes serve a group of nearby houses and I expect that the drop links to the houses go back to the nearest splice box and then directly to the house.

The only white boxes I have seen are for the POTS copper connections.

ED E · 19-02-2017 12:58AM

Old copper DPs served a max of 8 homes usually so in dense urban areas at a 16:1 split you'd have one POS every ~2nd pole.

When that goes rurally you'll probably find its more like one every 10 or twelve poles.

The Cush · 19-02-2017 01:56AM

ED E wrote: »

When that goes rurally you'll probably find its more like one every 10 or twelve poles.

Based on what's marked around here, in one location there are 2 splitter points separated by approx. 50m and 1 pole. The 2 points will serve, by the looks of it 3-4 and 6-7 houses respectively. But mostly a splitter is likely to serve groups of 2-5 houses approx. here.

19-02-2017 01:58AM

ED E wrote: »

Old copper DPs served a max of 8 homes usually so in dense urban areas at a 16:1 split you'd have one POS every ~2nd pole.

When that goes rurally you'll probably find its more like one every 10 or twelve poles.

Yes, that's what it appears to be around here, but then again the copper cables have frequent joins, so it's simply a case of the most convenient place to split the pair off to the house that's used. Our POTS connection is about 5 poles away, further up the line than our FTTH connection will be.

long_b · 19-02-2017 08:04AM

Thanks all.
So probably a couple of splitters needed for this scenarios so?

Eir rural FTTH thread

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