Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Teenage Disco bans inappropriate outfits

24567…11

Comments

  • #32
    The_Valeyard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    andekwarhola wrote: »
    The boy is learning quickly:

    white-knight.jpg

    This is the best thing ive seen all day


  • #33
    Arcade_Tryer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    Catholic Ireland will never die.


  • #34
    gramar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    Arcade_Tryer wrote: »
    Catholic Ireland will never die.

    It has nothing to do with that whatsoever. It's about having a little personal pride and at 15 being able to get dressed up without that meaning going out with hardly nothing on and leaving very little to the imagination.


  • #35
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Dress codes are BS. And yes, shock horror, people in their mid-teens are often sexually active. Stop the clocks and silence the barking dogs!

    The sooner Ireland sheds this repressive sh!t the better. Most of the commenters here would have had a heart attack if they'd gone to Wezz during my own youth - and that was more then ten years ago. We turned out fine, and I'd argue that we have a healthier attitude to sexuality than many earlier generations who still saw sex as a "bad word".


  • #36
    Arcade_Tryer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    gramar wrote: »
    It has nothing to do with that whatsoever. It's about having a little personal pride and at 15 being able to get dressed up without that meaning going out with hardly nothing on and leaving very little to the imagination.
    Yeah, Catholic Ireland will never be dead.


  • Advertisement
  • #37
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    gramar wrote: »
    It has nothing to do with that whatsoever. It's about having a little personal pride and at 15 being able to get dressed up without that meaning going out with hardly nothing on and leaving very little to the imagination.

    Why does dressing provocatively have to mean having no personal pride? Look at it from the other angle - if someone has the confidence in their body to show most of it off, that's far more pride than I've ever had anyway...


  • #38
    beertons
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,305 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    They didn't go out dressed like that in my day.


  • #39
    gramar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Why does dressing provocatively have to mean having no personal pride? Look at it from the other angle - if someone has the confidence in their body to show most of it off, that's far more pride than I've ever had anyway...

    We're talking 15 year olds. You answered your own question.


  • #40
    Arcade_Tryer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Dress codes are BS. And yes, shock horror, people in their mid-teens are often sexually active. Stop the clocks and silence the barking dogs!

    The sooner Ireland sheds this repressive sh!t the better. Most of the commenters here would have had a heart attack if they'd gone to Wezz during my own youth - and that was more then ten years ago. We turned out fine, and I'd argue that we have a healthier attitude to sexuality than many earlier generations who still saw sex as a "bad word".
    Good posts. First bit of sense in quite a scary thread. And I don't mean the short dresses obviously.


  • #41
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    beertons wrote: »
    They didn't go out dressed like that in my day.

    They did in mine, and so far they've turned out grand. Ok, maybe one or two of them turned into the militant "if you drink milk you're literally hitler" vegan types, but I doubt forcing them to cover their midriffs would have staved off this particular gruesome fate for them...


  • Advertisement
  • #42
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,043 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Teyla Emmagan wrote:
    It's so depressing. We should be teaching girls them they don't need to be half naked (and vulnerable) to be attractive.

    I think you're right. But when you see that written down, you see how impossibly uncool that message is. It's a hard sell.

    How do you get that message across? Presumably you need to role model the behaviour you want rather than telling them what to do.


  • #43
    Arcade_Tryer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    gramar wrote: »
    We're talking 15 year olds. You answered your own question.
    And you don't think that's the real issue here? The fact that a group of adults on a discussion board are moralising about and judging the dress sense of 15 year old girls? You think that's the normal part? Jesus.


  • #44
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    gramar wrote: »
    We're talking 15 year olds. You answered your own question.

    I didn't actually. Many 15 year olds are sexually active within their peer group to at least some extent. It's been that way for at least the last 17 years. Society needs to get the f*ck over it. It's a far, far healthier climate to grow up in psychologically than the repressed, shy, "girls on one side, boys on the other" crap of our socially conservative past.


  • #45
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Thoie wrote: »
    From their dress code "Dress can be knee length or just above the knee".

    I'd agree that the "no" dresses they showed wouldn't be appropriate for a child. It's not about body shaming or slut shaming, it's a teenage "ball" (not even a disco), not an adult nightclub. No-one is forced into attending.

    Something like this or this meet the criteria without being a full cover up. Neckline isn't plunging, dress hits the knee. I'm not advocating those dresses, just a handy example of something that works without being cut all the way down (or up!) to your belly button. No-one's asking them to turn up in sackcloth and ashes.

    What does it matter if the dress is above the knee though. Skater dresses are well above the knee, they are not indecent. When I was younger I'd often go out in a skater dress or a pair of shorts paired with opaque or pattern tights, that seems to be the fashion today as well. Neither would be considered acceptable here however.


  • #46
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,582 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    The tiny outfits the girls wear to these discos do seem to be way too skimpy. Where has self esteem gone. I'm an old fart of nearly 42 now so I probably sound like a dinosaur but if I had a 15 year old daughter Im not so sure I'd let her even go to these these things.

    I remember Wesley in my youth and back then (circa 1990) girls wore jeans, boots, body form tops and blazers. Mini skirts weren't as common back then as now. The rule was no track/shell suits, no runners, no white socks but at least we wore clothes.

    And the slow sets...and getting your friend to ask the friend of the girl you fancied a slow set dance to ask her if she'd dance with you. Self confidence and directness were lacking!


  • #47
    Arcade_Tryer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    Puritanism. The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

    There's always a H.L. Mencken quote for every situation.


  • #48
    gramar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    I didn't actually. Many 15 year olds are sexually active within their peer group to at least some extent. It's been that way for at least the last 17 years. Society needs to get the f*ck over it. It's a far, far healthier climate to grow up in psychologically than the repressed, shy, "girls on one side, boys on the other" crap of our socially conservative past.

    15 year olds shouldn't have to go out dressing provocatively. No-one is advocating a return to the girls on one side boys on the other scenario. Not mentioned even once. Wear something decent not something indecent.


  • #49
    hytrogen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭hytrogen


    Arcade_Tryer wrote:
    Catholic Ireland will never die.

    gramar wrote:
    It has nothing to do with that whatsoever. It's about having a little personal pride and at 15 being able to get dressed up without that meaning going out with hardly nothing on and leaving very little to the imagination.

    Arcade_Tryer wrote:
    Yeah, Catholic Ireland will never be dead.

    It's with O'Leary in the grave..


  • #50
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    I didn't actually. Many 15 year olds are sexually active within their peer group to at least some extent. It's been that way for at least the last 17 years.
    It's been that way since the dawn of time, we just can't see past our Catholic upbringing.

    Its funny how people get hung up about clothes. I remember this same stuff happening when I was a teenager, the exact same arguments. It's weird how a dress worn at a ball can be too revealing yet a bikini at a beach is just right. What difference does it make? But that's humans for you, bizarre and willing to argue with their own shadows.

    The organisers of the ball are perfectly entitled to enact a dress code and everyone else is perfectly entitled to not bother going.


  • #51
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    I didn't actually. Many 15 year olds are sexually active within their peer group to at least some extent. It's been that way for at least the last 17 years. Society needs to get the f*ck over it. It's a far, far healthier climate to grow up in psychologically than the repressed, shy, "girls on one side, boys on the other" crap of our socially conservative past.

    there is a balance in the middle, I don't think that is it a positive that many 15 year olds are having sex (if that is what you meant) but I'd imagine most aren't.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Advertisement
  • #52
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,758 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    To me a ball is something you get a little dressed up for and a teenage Disco is something you'd make less of an effort for(simply because it's not formal) any ball however I've heard of had always a sit dinner served at it early in the evening.
    When I was growing up you could attend a teenage disco almost every weekend generally between first year and third year and the girls wore some kind off dress or a top and leggings and guys wore some kind of shirt or jumper and jeans. Footwear for both always varied.
    If the Kilkenny style ball was the standard disco in my way I'd have no idea how people should have being able to afford to attend.
    My issue with it is. It seems like a stard run off a mill teenage disco but it's being marketed as a big grand ball with out all the perks!


  • #53
    hytrogen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭hytrogen


    ScumLord wrote:
    The organisers of the ball are perfectly entitled to enact a dress code and everyone else is perfectly entitled to not bother going.

    I wonder how many are going to muddle up the story of Frozen with Cinderella leaving by midnight..


  • #54
    Arcade_Tryer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Arcade_Tryer


    gramar wrote: »
    15 year olds shouldn't have to go out dressing provocatively. No-one is advocating a return to the girls on one side boys on the other scenario. Not mentioned even once. Wear something decent not something indecent.
    That's a fair point. And perhaps you're right. But if they choose to go out dressing provocatively, it's a far worse crime to say they can't. Only their parents have that kind of power.


  • #55
    OhHiMark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭OhHiMark


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    The tiny outfits the girls wear to these discos do seem to be way too skimpy. Where has self esteem gone. I'm an old fart of nearly 42 now so I probably sound like a dinosaur but if I had a 15 year old daughter Im not so sure I'd let her even go to these these things.

    I remember Wesley in my youth and back then (circa 1990) girls wore jeans, boots, body form tops and blazers. Mini skirts weren't as common back then as now. The rule was no track/shell suits, no runners, no white socks but at least we wore clothes.

    And the slow sets...and getting your friend to ask the friend of the girl you fancied a slow set dance to ask her if she'd dance with you. Self confidence and directness were lacking!

    So you're wondering where self esteem has gone and then say that nobody had any self confidence back in the day. Which is it?


  • #56
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,582 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    OhHiMark wrote: »
    So you're wondering where self esteem has gone and then say that nobody had any self confidence back in the day. Which is it?

    Teenagers didnt have much self esteem back then but at least the girls covered up a bit more. Maybe my memory is getting hazy in my old age, but that's how I remember it. Teenage years are hard enough to negotiate without the peer pressure piled on to be sexually active. I think a dress code for these teenage events is a good thing.


  • #57
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Teenagers didnt have much self esteem back then but at least the girls covered up a bit more. Maybe my memory is getting hazy in my old age, but that's how I remember it. Teenage years are hard enough to negotiate without the peer pressure piled on to be sexually active. I think a dress code for these teenage events is a good thing.
    You're not that far ahead of me and I remember girls constantly getting in trouble in school for hiking up skirts, or getting out of the parents car for school discos watching the parents leaving then changing clothes. I'm from a small town too.


  • #58
    Stab*City
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,413 ✭✭✭Stab*City


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    The tiny outfits the girls wear to these discos do seem to be way too skimpy. Where has self esteem gone. I'm an old fart of nearly 42 now so I probably sound like a dinosaur but if I had a 15 year old daughter Im not so sure I'd let her even go to these these things.

    I remember Wesley in my youth and back then (circa 1990) girls wore jeans, boots, body form tops and blazers. Mini skirts weren't as common back then as now. The rule was no track/shell suits, no runners, no white socks but at least we wore clothes.

    And the slow sets...and getting your friend to ask the friend of the girl you fancied a slow set dance to ask her if she'd dance with you. Self confidence and directness were lacking!

    You sound more like 62 than 42. At the end of the day surely all that matters is these girls are not indecent and are safe. Everything else is just someone trying to force their opinion on others.

    As for the female teen dress code in the early nineties the girls looked more like boys back then.


  • #59
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,374 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    No dress code is going to stop them carrying on if they want to - and a scary number of them do, from much younger than 15.


  • #60
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Gasping through the competing stench of Lynx and Impulse when some enterprising young buck offers to let you smell his fingers.


  • Advertisement
  • #61
    Lux23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    If their parents are willing to let them dress like that than I don't like the idea of a random business telling these teenagers what to wear. Its a disco, not a church. What places even have a dress-code these days?


Advertisement