Teenage Disco bans inappropriate outfits

gramar

Organisers of a teenage disco in Kilkenny have banned certain types of revealing clothing as the dress code was being abused by many of the girls attending. I can't say I disagree. These are discos for 15 years olds and it seems the girls are going showing off more than they are covering.

Apart from the organisers having the right to set their own rules I think girls of that age wearing dresses that hardly cover the crack of their arse look trashy and tacky and exhibit a lack of dignity and self respect.

Sheeps

Down with this sort of thing

_Brian

gramar wrote: »

Organisers of a teenage disco in Kilkenny have banned certain types of revealing clothing as the dress code was being abused by many of the girls attending. I can't say I disagree. These are discos for 15 years olds and it seems the girls are going showing off more than they are covering.

Apart from the organisers having the right to set their own rules I think girls of that age wearing dresses that hardly cover the crack of their arse look trashy and tacky and exhibit a lack of dignity and self respect.

I think the thing to remember is they have parents letting them out dressed like that. I've a 14yo daughter who attends these things and there is no clothes changing behind parents backs going on, the parents seem very comfortable letting them out in these slutty outfits.

razorblunt

_Brian wrote: »

I think the thing to remember is they have parents letting them out dressed like that. I've a 14yo daughter who attends these things and there is no clothes changing behind parents backs going on, the parents seem very comfortable letting them out in these slutty outfits.

Not always, back in my day a lot of the girls I knew would get changed at a friends house before heading out to teenage discos

Lyle Lanley

First sign of the spread of Islam?

It's the teenage boys I feel bad for in this case.

Katgurl

They're teenagers - not children, not adults. I didn't think the dresses with the 'NO' signs stamped on them looked particularly shocking.

I remember in my Wesley days the only rule was that track suits were not acceptable. Now I see them standing outside pretty much in their underwear.

HI'm glad I didnt have to squeeze my feet into high heels back then

osarusan

This captures my feelings.

eviltwin

The dresses are manky but not exactly indecent. I think expecting girls to wear dresses that go below the knee is a bit stupid. Never as a teenager did I ever wear a dress that went below the knee.

silverharp

_Brian wrote: »

I think the thing to remember is they have parents letting them out dressed like that. I've a 14yo daughter who attends these things and there is no clothes changing behind parents backs going on, the parents seem very comfortable letting them out in these slutty outfits.

I heard one the other day, dad would drop his daughter at the disco and the mother or other parent would bring them home. he decided to drop her off but not tell her he would pick them up as well and his daughter was wearing a completely different outfit, but what you say is true as well.

_Brian

It's hard to comment on this and not sound like an old stuffy fart.

One thing about our local nightclub is they do photoshoots for Facebook as the kids are going in, it's very easy to see what they are actually wearing when they're there.

ted1

_Brian wrote: »

It's hard to comment on this and not sound like an old stuffy fart.

One thing about our local nightclub is they do photoshoots for Facebook as the kids are going in, it's very easy to see what they are actually wearing when they're there.

That's kind of creepy Taking pictures of young girls who may or may not be scantily dressed and posting them on a public Facebook account

Irish Guitarist

The dress code for boys seems far more restrictive. When I was fifteen I wouldn't have voluntarily set foot anywhere that made me wear a tie and 'slacks'.

razorblunt

Actually, this isn't quite a disco, it's a ball, the dress code makes sense.
Though in saying that, I've seen women of all ages wear similar dresses (or worse) to balls and weddings.

Kimbot

razorblunt wrote: »

Actually, this isn't quite a disco, it's a ball, the dress code makes sense.
Though in saying that, I've seen women of all ages wear similar dresses (or worse) to balls and weddings.

Was just about to post this, the dress code makes sense. They are just helping with teaching them how to respect themselves I see no harm in that tbh.

b_mac2

Make them wear a burqa.

VinLieger

Deplorable dresses? Bit subjective surely?

Irish Guitarist

I found their Facebook page. The 'outrage' is from teenage girls throwing tantrums and talking nonsense about 'slut shaming' and 'body shaming'. Here's one of them.

respect young women, stop body shaming them. work with young people to change their attitudes towards sex & intoxication instead of banning natural features of women's bodies outright. shame on ye!

And another

Your slut shaming is really nasty, and will probably do poorly for your business.

There's another one from a male saying "I support women!" as if some terrible injustice has happened. The likes of Twitter has teenagers thinking everything is an outrage and a violation of their human rights.

Fratton Fred

Katgurl wrote: »

They're teenagers - not children, not adults. I didn't think the dresses with the 'NO' signs stamped on them looked particularly shocking.

I remember in my Wesley days the only rule was that track suits were not acceptable. Now I see them standing outside pretty much in their underwear.

HI'm glad I didnt have to squeeze my feet into high heels back then

I dropped my daughter off to a disco the other week and it seemed like she was the only one not in her knickers. Half the girls seemed to be hopping out of cars wearing the sort of gear Jessica Ennis wears on the track, albeit in trendier colours.

Your Face

Where's this disco again?

andekwarhola

I'm sure this brainwave will definitely stop them all riding like rabbits, drinking and doing yokes, alright

hytrogen

gramar wrote:

Apart from the organisers having the right to set their own rules I think girls of that age wearing dresses that hardly cover the crack of their arse look trashy and tacky and exhibit a lack of dignity and self respect.

That's why they call them greyhound dresses, always an inch away from the hair

andekwarhola

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

There's another one from a male saying "I support women!" as if some terrible injustice has happened.

The boy is learning quickly:

hytrogen

Your Face wrote:

Where's this disco again?

Sweaty palms already?

eviltwin

andekwarhola wrote: »

The boy is learning quickly:

Not a white knight, just a horny young lad who like seeing the displays of flesh most likely

Iseedeadpixels

Sheeps wrote: »

Down with this sort of thing

I'm sure the knickers will be down quick enough.

El_Duderino 09

That's pop culture at the moment unfortunately. I live in an area I the UK famous for this sort of dress code. You can blame the young wans if you like, but you look around at their role models and you see they grew up emersed in it. Parents, peers and pop culture showing them how to behave and it's not too surprising that they behave like that.

Teyla Emmagan

I am all for this. I hate seeing teenage girls half naked, staggering around like storks on a pair of heels they can't walk in. And their male counterparts fully dressed in something warm. It's so depressing. We should be teaching girls them they don't need to be half naked (and vulnerable) to be attractive.

Iseedeadpixels

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

I am all for this. I hate seeing teenage girls half naked, staggering around like storks on a pair of heels they can't walk in. And their male counterparts fully dressed in something warm. It's so depressing. We should be teaching girls them they don't need to be half naked (and vulnerable) to be attractive.

Yet your username is based on a woman who wore bellytops and tight bottoms into battle.

Thoie

eviltwin wrote: »

The dresses are manky but not exactly indecent. I think expecting girls to wear dresses that go below the knee is a bit stupid. Never as a teenager did I ever wear a dress that went below the knee.

From their dress code "Dress can be knee length or just above the knee".

I'd agree that the "no" dresses they showed wouldn't be appropriate for a child. It's not about body shaming or slut shaming, it's a teenage "ball" (not even a disco), not an adult nightclub. No-one is forced into attending.

Something like this or this meet the criteria without being a full cover up. Neckline isn't plunging, dress hits the knee. I'm not advocating those dresses, just a handy example of something that works without being cut all the way down (or up!) to your belly button. No-one's asking them to turn up in sackcloth and ashes.

Your Face

hytrogen wrote: »

Sweaty palms already?

Sweaty pants.

Grayson

VinLieger wrote: »

Deplorable dresses? Bit subjective surely?

To be fair, the dresses voted for Trump.

The_Valeyard

andekwarhola wrote: »

The boy is learning quickly:

This is the best thing ive seen all day

Arcade_Tryer

Catholic Ireland will never die.

gramar

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

Catholic Ireland will never die.

It has nothing to do with that whatsoever. It's about having a little personal pride and at 15 being able to get dressed up without that meaning going out with hardly nothing on and leaving very little to the imagination.

hatrickpatrick

Dress codes are BS. And yes, shock horror, people in their mid-teens are often sexually active. Stop the clocks and silence the barking dogs!

The sooner Ireland sheds this repressive sh!t the better. Most of the commenters here would have had a heart attack if they'd gone to Wezz during my own youth - and that was more then ten years ago. We turned out fine, and I'd argue that we have a healthier attitude to sexuality than many earlier generations who still saw sex as a "bad word".

Arcade_Tryer

gramar wrote: »

It has nothing to do with that whatsoever. It's about having a little personal pride and at 15 being able to get dressed up without that meaning going out with hardly nothing on and leaving very little to the imagination.

Yeah, Catholic Ireland will never be dead.

hatrickpatrick

gramar wrote: »

It has nothing to do with that whatsoever. It's about having a little personal pride and at 15 being able to get dressed up without that meaning going out with hardly nothing on and leaving very little to the imagination.

Why does dressing provocatively have to mean having no personal pride? Look at it from the other angle - if someone has the confidence in their body to show most of it off, that's far more pride than I've ever had anyway...

beertons

They didn't go out dressed like that in my day.

gramar

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Why does dressing provocatively have to mean having no personal pride? Look at it from the other angle - if someone has the confidence in their body to show most of it off, that's far more pride than I've ever had anyway...

We're talking 15 year olds. You answered your own question.

Arcade_Tryer

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Dress codes are BS. And yes, shock horror, people in their mid-teens are often sexually active. Stop the clocks and silence the barking dogs!

The sooner Ireland sheds this repressive sh!t the better. Most of the commenters here would have had a heart attack if they'd gone to Wezz during my own youth - and that was more then ten years ago. We turned out fine, and I'd argue that we have a healthier attitude to sexuality than many earlier generations who still saw sex as a "bad word".

Good posts. First bit of sense in quite a scary thread. And I don't mean the short dresses obviously.

hatrickpatrick

beertons wrote: »

They didn't go out dressed like that in my day.

They did in mine, and so far they've turned out grand. Ok, maybe one or two of them turned into the militant "if you drink milk you're literally hitler" vegan types, but I doubt forcing them to cover their midriffs would have staved off this particular gruesome fate for them...

El_Duderino 09

Teyla Emmagan wrote:

It's so depressing. We should be teaching girls them they don't need to be half naked (and vulnerable) to be attractive.

I think you're right. But when you see that written down, you see how impossibly uncool that message is. It's a hard sell.

How do you get that message across? Presumably you need to role model the behaviour you want rather than telling them what to do.

Arcade_Tryer

gramar wrote: »

We're talking 15 year olds. You answered your own question.

And you don't think that's the real issue here? The fact that a group of adults on a discussion board are moralising about and judging the dress sense of 15 year old girls? You think that's the normal part? Jesus.

hatrickpatrick

gramar wrote: »

We're talking 15 year olds. You answered your own question.

I didn't actually. Many 15 year olds are sexually active within their peer group to at least some extent. It's been that way for at least the last 17 years. Society needs to get the f*ck over it. It's a far, far healthier climate to grow up in psychologically than the repressed, shy, "girls on one side, boys on the other" crap of our socially conservative past.

eviltwin

Thoie wrote: »

From their dress code "Dress can be knee length or just above the knee".

I'd agree that the "no" dresses they showed wouldn't be appropriate for a child. It's not about body shaming or slut shaming, it's a teenage "ball" (not even a disco), not an adult nightclub. No-one is forced into attending.

Something like this or this meet the criteria without being a full cover up. Neckline isn't plunging, dress hits the knee. I'm not advocating those dresses, just a handy example of something that works without being cut all the way down (or up!) to your belly button. No-one's asking them to turn up in sackcloth and ashes.

What does it matter if the dress is above the knee though. Skater dresses are well above the knee, they are not indecent. When I was younger I'd often go out in a skater dress or a pair of shorts paired with opaque or pattern tights, that seems to be the fashion today as well. Neither would be considered acceptable here however.

JupiterKid

The tiny outfits the girls wear to these discos do seem to be way too skimpy. Where has self esteem gone. I'm an old fart of nearly 42 now so I probably sound like a dinosaur but if I had a 15 year old daughter Im not so sure I'd let her even go to these these things.

I remember Wesley in my youth and back then (circa 1990) girls wore jeans, boots, body form tops and blazers. Mini skirts weren't as common back then as now. The rule was no track/shell suits, no runners, no white socks but at least we wore clothes.

And the slow sets...and getting your friend to ask the friend of the girl you fancied a slow set dance to ask her if she'd dance with you. Self confidence and directness were lacking!

Arcade_Tryer

Puritanism. The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

There's always a H.L. Mencken quote for every situation.

gramar

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I didn't actually. Many 15 year olds are sexually active within their peer group to at least some extent. It's been that way for at least the last 17 years. Society needs to get the f*ck over it. It's a far, far healthier climate to grow up in psychologically than the repressed, shy, "girls on one side, boys on the other" crap of our socially conservative past.

15 year olds shouldn't have to go out dressing provocatively. No-one is advocating a return to the girls on one side boys on the other scenario. Not mentioned even once. Wear something decent not something indecent.

hytrogen

Arcade_Tryer wrote:

Catholic Ireland will never die.

gramar wrote:

It has nothing to do with that whatsoever. It's about having a little personal pride and at 15 being able to get dressed up without that meaning going out with hardly nothing on and leaving very little to the imagination.

Arcade_Tryer wrote:

Yeah, Catholic Ireland will never be dead.

It's with O'Leary in the grave..

ScumLord

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I didn't actually. Many 15 year olds are sexually active within their peer group to at least some extent. It's been that way for at least the last 17 years.

It's been that way since the dawn of time, we just can't see past our Catholic upbringing.

Its funny how people get hung up about clothes. I remember this same stuff happening when I was a teenager, the exact same arguments. It's weird how a dress worn at a ball can be too revealing yet a bikini at a beach is just right. What difference does it make? But that's humans for you, bizarre and willing to argue with their own shadows.

The organisers of the ball are perfectly entitled to enact a dress code and everyone else is perfectly entitled to not bother going.

silverharp

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I didn't actually. Many 15 year olds are sexually active within their peer group to at least some extent. It's been that way for at least the last 17 years. Society needs to get the f*ck over it. It's a far, far healthier climate to grow up in psychologically than the repressed, shy, "girls on one side, boys on the other" crap of our socially conservative past.

there is a balance in the middle, I don't think that is it a positive that many 15 year olds are having sex (if that is what you meant) but I'd imagine most aren't.