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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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  • #3542
    creeper1
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    Will the red cow event essentially be a repeat of the Manchester one?

    It would be a bit like watching the same movie again.


  • #3543
    billybonkers
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    creeper1 wrote: »
    Will the red cow event essentially be a repeat of the Manchester one?

    It would be a bit like watching the same movie again.

    Most likely, without Ariel Helwani as the MC. Which would be a let down compared to the Manchester gig I would guess.

    Can't really think of anyone here who would be in any way as good a host.


  • #3544
    Pighead
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    billybonkers wrote: »
    Most likely, without Ariel Helwani as the MC. Which would be a let down compared to the Manchester gig I would guess.

    Can't really think of anyone here who would be in any way as good a host.
    Andrew McGahon?


  • #3545
    dashoonage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,140 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    billybonkers wrote: »
    Most likely, without Ariel Helwani as the MC. Which would be a let down compared to the Manchester gig I would guess.

    Can't really think of anyone here who would be in any way as good a host.

    wonderfullife.


  • #3546
    Gamebred
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    Undercard on the evening is a debate between him and Kavanagh on world affairs including Trump, politics and religion.


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  • #3547
    Swashbuckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Undercard on the evening is a debate between him and Kavanagh on world affairs including Trump, politics and religion.

    JK wouldn't last one round with him!


  • #3548
    dashoonage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,140 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Undercard on the evening is a debate between him and Kavanagh on world affairs including Trump, politics and religion.

    Now that id pay 100 quid to see.


  • #3549
    billybonkers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Pighead wrote: »
    Andrew McGahon?

    Still wouldn't be the same Andrew works for him now over at maclife


  • #3550
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,454 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    rob316 wrote: »
    ITs hardly impressive that clip, looks very amateur to be honest. The last second, his partner swings a right hook and he looks a bit rocked. Atleast its Mayweather he'll be only fighting, you would worry for his safety if it was someone else.

    This is where many will be surprised. Mayweather if he actually commits will be whacking Conor with ease. This is actually a dangerous scenario to be allowing a complete nobody "boxer" into the ring with an experienced professional. It's not tiddlywinks. Has Conor got nobody to advise him of the dangers? Mayweather may not be Julian Jackson as regards one shot power, but the facts remain that it doesn't take all that much force to cause injury or worse in a boxing ring.


  • #3551
    Gamebred
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    walshb wrote: »
    This is where many will be surprised. Mayweather if he actually commits will be whacking Conor with ease. This is actually a dangerous scenario to be allowing a complete nobody boxer into the ring with an experienced professional. It's not tiddlywinks. Has Conor got nobody to advise him of the dangers? Mayweather may not be Julian Jackson as regards one shot power, but the facts remain that it doesn't take all that much force to cause injury or worse in a boxing ring.



    Yep 40 year old midget with broken hands is gonna hurt someone who takes shots and never been dropped with 4oz gloves lol.


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  • #3552
    walshb
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    Gamebred wrote: »
    Yep 40 year old midget with broken hands is gonna hurt someone who takes shots and never been dropped with 4oz gloves lol.

    Both disciplines are lost on you...


  • #3553
    [Deleted User]
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    Gamebred wrote: »
    Yep 40 year old midget with broken hands is gonna hurt someone who takes shots and never been dropped with 4oz gloves lol.

    To be fair, I am way more of a MMA fan than I am boxing, I do like both though. Floyd is one of the best of all time, look at the mans record, all the names he has beaten. In a fight Conor would win hands down, In a boxing match...... I mean if you think it would even be close you must be delusional, Mayweather is the goat and is still in top condition, he never lets himself go and is always in shape.

    You know what I would like to see Floyd v GGG and Conor v Diaz/Khabib.


  • #3554
    wonderfullife
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    Swashbuckler wrote: »
    JK wouldn't last one round with him!

    He can know all the fancy sweeps and chokes he wants but if it comes to a diatribe on Trump and the alt-right I've got him covered :) It'll be Anderson against Forrest all over again until I deliver a lazy jab and he runs out of the arena :pac:
    walshb wrote: »
    Both disciplines are lost on you...

    I think one thing is worth noting here regarding this training footage.

    In the run-up to Diaz 2, #TeamMcGregor put out an awful lot on social media. It was mostly Conor winging punches in the direction of Conor Wallace and him grappling with Dillon.

    Then, on the night itself, he turned into Conor Anthony Aldo and it was leg-kicks for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I.e. I'd take any footage he puts out with a grain of salt. It's in his own interests to look pretty crap at boxing (even if that's his actual best boxing and he is, simply, crap).

    The other relevant thing is this debate over whether Conor can win is a silly debate.

    Victory is in getting the fight made. Nothing else is relevant. If he gets the fight made, he wins. It's obviously a massive bonus if he could make it any way competitive so there's the possibility of a rematch but it's a very tall order to be competitive against Floyd.


  • #3555
    walshb
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    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Victory is in getting the fight made. Nothing else is relevant. If he gets the fight made, he wins. It's obviously a massive bonus if he could make it any way competitive so there's the possibility of a rematch but it's a very tall order to be competitive against Floyd.

    I agree.

    Also, If the fight goes ahead and Mayweather cannot get Conor out of there (and kind of early) then Mayweather has lost, and lost a lot of credibility; unless I am really underestimating Conor?


  • #3556
    Tazzimus
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    Gamebred wrote: »
    He's not skipping training he was there doing some striking tonight not a chance he will stop grappling.
    I was sat in the cage after rolling watching him go through drills with a few others, some nice footwork going on. The man looks like he weighs nothing the way he bops around.


  • #3557
    gallag
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭gallag


    Diaz style slap boxing hurt mcgregor, people think floyd can't? That's how ridiculous it's became.


  • #3558
    darced
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  • #3559
    walshb
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    darced wrote: »
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    10 oz is hardly big. Most of that weight is the wrist. Floyd will be hitting a non boxer clean in the head and face. Will have more time and room and thought to connect. I am not sure some folks really appreciate the gulf in class, or the potential damage and dangers Conor faces if Floyd decides to treat this with full commitment.


  • #3560
    Gamebred
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    Diaz 6ft lanky 170lb southpaw massive reach and Floyd are very alike arent they :rolleyes:


  • #3561
    darced
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  • #3562
    Subcomandante Marcos
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    darced wrote: »
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    Floyd wears 8oz gloves, not 10oz.


  • #3563
    raze_them_all_
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    Gamebred wrote: »
    Diaz 6ft lanky 170lb southpaw massive reach and Floyd are very alike arent they :rolleyes:

    FLoyd has a perfect professional boxing record. Belts in 8 weight classes. Unless conor goes in and kicks him in the face its not a fight


  • #3564
    kumate_champ07
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    Gamebred wrote: »
    Diaz 6ft lanky 170lb southpaw massive reach and Floyd are very alike arent they :rolleyes:
    he's 170 when fighting at 155, he is closer to 190lb at welterweight


  • #3565
    Lukker-
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    How many rounds do people think it would be sanctioned for? I don't think Conor would be too keen on a full 12.


  • #3566
    wonderfullife
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    Lukker- wrote: »
    How many rounds do people think it would be sanctioned for? I don't think Conor would be too keen on a full 12.

    He'll absolutely insist on it being a 12 rounds fight, in the same way he insisted the Nate rematch be at 170lbs.

    Make no mistake the one person who firmly believes McGregor can beat Mayweather is Conor himself. His self-belief is a real-thing. It's easy for us to call him delusional in this instance but he honestly believes he will beat Floyd in a boxing ring.

    He won't want any excuses by signing to fight an 8-round fight or introducing any hybrid rules. He'll want full championship boxing conditions and rules. Even more so because if he can last the full 12 and look somewhat fresh down the stretch, it also benefits his Mac Life Fast scheme.


  • #3567
    StringerBell
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    Mayweather will insist it is a full 12 round bout or no go. Mayweather will dictate the terms, or it will not happen. Floyd has operated one way for the last good number of years and he isn't going to change. Control is absolutely massive for him, it being his show is absolutely massive for him. He stresses he is the A side, always. His demands will be pandered to or it won't happen, Conor can publicly be as cocky and self assured as he wants. Talk all the good game that he wants, but everybody knows this will be Mayweathers show or it will be no show at all.

    McGregor has to chase the fight, if he manages to get it sanctioned and agreed by all parties he will have done incredibly well, of course it doesn't matter that Mayweather will slap the head off him at will.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #3568
    Mellor
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    wonderfullife wrote: »
    He'll want full championship boxing conditions and rules. Even more so because if he can last the full 12 and look somewhat fresh down the stretch, it also benefits his Mac Life Fast scheme.
    Will 12 rounds actually be an option considering it's not a championship fight?
    I suppose it depends on the sanctioning body and how agreeable they are.
    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    FLoyd has a perfect professional boxing record. Belts in 8 weight classes.
    I think you are confusing Pacquiao's titles with Mayweather's.


  • #3569
    gallag
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    Gamebred wrote: »
    Diaz 6ft lanky 170lb southpaw massive reach and Floyd are very alike arent they :rolleyes:

    No one is saying that but do you believe floyd can generate more power in a punch than Diaz? I do, and it's fact Diaz rocked mcgregor.


  • #3570
    walshb
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    darced wrote: »
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    Sorry, I am just not getting any of this. It makes no sense to me. Conor is not a pro boxer, and never was. The shots he takes in MMA are not the same as what he may take against Floyd with 8-10 oz gloves, delivered at lightning speed, and with accuracy. Conor "looking" three weight classes bigger still won't stop his head taking such real flush shots. Like I said, it doesn't take real power to cause real injury in pro boxing.

    And the 8-10 oz gloves certainly will not feel like pillows when they land. They may look it compared to hardened and compacted 4 oz MMA gloves. That's just looks. Bigger volume glove means more surface area to connect with, and they aren't pillow like when they land. They won't slip or slide near as much as the smaller MMA gloves.


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  • #3571
    Gamebred
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    walshb wrote: »
    Sorry, I am just not getting any of this. It makes no sense to me. Conor is not a pro boxer, and never was. The shots he takes in MMA are not the same as what he may take against Floyd with 8-10 oz gloves, delivered at lightning speed, and with accuracy. Conor "looking" three weight classes bigger still won't stop his head taking such real flush shots. Like I said, it doesn't take real power to cause real injury in pro boxing.

    And the 8-10 oz gloves certainly will not feel like pillows when they land. They may look it compared to hardened and compacted 4 oz MMA gloves. That's just looks. Bigger volume glove means more surface are to connect with, and they aren't pillow like when they land. They won't slip or slide near as much as the smaller MMA gloves.


    Remind me of the last punch Floyd has hurt somebody with?


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