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New Netflix series "Dear white people" hit with backlash online

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  • #32
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Seems like some precious right-wing snowflakes are being triggered by the title. They'll be looking for Netflix to be banned so they can have their safe-space.

    Am I doing this right?


  • #33
    gramar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    =HalloweenJack;102564188 Black people being offended by blackface is hardly anything new or offensive.

    Are black people offended by blackface? (stupid term by the way)
    What if I was to dress up as Stevie Wonder but I didn't blacken up to avoid offence then it would be a fairly crap effort at dressing up.

    ...'what did you come as?'
    Me...'Stevie Wonder'
    ...'but you're not black'
    Me..'yeah....'
    ...'kinda stupid dressing up as a black person if you don't paint yourself black'
    Me...'yeah...'


  • #34
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    super_furry wrote: »
    Seems like some precious right-wing snowflakes are being triggered by the title. They'll be looking for Netflix to be banned so they can have their safe-space.

    Am I doing this right?

    Nope, people are just fed up of leftist ideologies and tactics like race baiting.


  • #35
    AnGaelach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭AnGaelach


    jaykay74 wrote: »
    Haven't seen it. Any good ?

    The movie was horrendous, it was about some half-black girl who decides she hates white people because she felt awkward being seeing with her white father in public as a child.


  • #36
    Canis Lupus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Can someone tell me if I'm supposed to be offended by all of this?


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  • #37
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Canis Lupus wrote: »
    Can someone tell me if I'm supposed to be offended by all of this?

    you cant be offended..you're a white male! :pac:

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #38
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Canis Lupus wrote: »
    Can someone tell me if I'm supposed to be offended by all of this?

    Apparently so. The people who are always telling other people that they shouldn't be so easily offended seem to think so anyway.


  • #39
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Am I personally offended, no - I couldn't care less.
    Would I watch it? No - it looks shíte.

    But that being said it is definitely a double standard.

    Dear black people would of course be racist.
    The MOWO awards would of course be racist.
    Oscars so black?- you may as well join the KKK
    Bla bla bla


  • #40
    jaykay74
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,631 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    AnGaelach wrote: »
    The movie was horrendous, it was about some half-black girl who decides she hates white people because she felt awkward being seeing with her white father in public as a child.

    Doesn't sound great, I'II probably skip it and watch something else instead.


  • #41
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    I haven't seen it, but i'm gonna take a while guess that it's probably going to contain a lot of black people calling each other the N word (which we still can't type because feelings, and i'm white) while telling off white people for calling them the N word... Or maybe not, but that seems to be the trend.

    Either way, i won't be watching it, it's not targeted towards me so meh.


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  • #42
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,823 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    AnGaelach wrote: »
    The movie was horrendous, it was about some half-black girl who decides she hates white people because she felt awkward being seeing with her white father in public as a child.

    You clearly didn't understand the movie (or you simply didn't see it).

    It poked fun at everyone.


  • #43
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Potential-Monke wrote: »
    Either way, i won't be watching it, it's not targeted towards me so meh.

    its probably targeted at African American woman as opposed to every white person has to watch this but still double standards should be pointed out

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #44
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    What's the story with Irish people on the likes of Boards and Twitter whose personalities seem to be completely consumed by American culture and politics? It's gotten really weird.


  • #45
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    AnGaelach wrote: »
    The movie was horrendous, it was about some half-black girl who decides she hates white people because she felt awkward being seeing with her white father in public as a child.

    Sounds shíte.
    I'd rather see a movie about a half black girl / half fish who comes to Manhattan and falls in love with Tom Hanks. Now that's box office gold:D


  • #46
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    What's the story with Irish people on the likes of Boards and Twitter whose personalities seem to be completely consumed by American culture and politics? It's gotten really weird.

    Indeed. Sure they've been arguing for NRA style gun-rights here recently.


  • #47
    Dravokivich
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    silverharp wrote: »
    How much time do you think Dear Black People would get? :pac:

    I'm sure it would get a segment within Black History Month. :D


  • #48
    Snow Crash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭Snow Crash


    HalloweenJack wrote: »
    In fairness, the trailer doesn't give much away. Black people being offended by blackface is hardly anything new or offensive.
    I can't get offended by blackface because of my childhood...

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  • #49
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Remember when the real oneals was going to be the most offence thing to irish people every for a while ..........

    :confused: Are you having a stroke?


  • #50
    orubiru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭orubiru


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    The music is a massive hint, the intro and the overall style point at a comedic satire.

    I'm not saying it's not going to be as stupid as the MTV clip, but what I am saying is that you cannot judge it until it has been fully released and watched it.

    Did it not maybe cross your mind that Netflix released it in such a way as this to drive up controversy and get people talking about it? Its like, Marketing 101.

    I can definitely see an argument that minority groups have been the butt of jokes for a long, long, time in the USA and so why shouldn't white people have a taste of their own medicine?

    I kind of agree with that and I think, yeah, maybe people shouldn't take this stuff seriously. Then you have to remember though that over the years making jokes about people based on race or gender has been becoming less acceptable and it seemed for a long time that this was what the people wanted. No racist jokes, no sexist jokes. They are deemed offensive.

    Now it seems like racism and sexism is back on the table so long as it's aimed at white people. We don't really call it "racism" though because "prejudice plus power".

    There is definitely an argument that "punching up" is seen as more acceptable than "punching down". Should we be surprised though when people start punching back?

    I guess it's really aimed at college kids and hopefully it's just a good fun show that doesn't get anyone too riled up.

    Or it could be a massive own goal that puts race relations in the USA back a few decades. (Obviously not this show alone but the cumulative effect of such content)

    People will argue that anti-Muslim sentiment is playing into the hands of groups like ISIS so surely the same argument holds here? Shows like this are an opportunity for white supremacy groups to gain popularity and recruit impressionable young people.

    If it becomes fashionable to single out "white people" in a nation that is 63% white then would it really be that much of a surprise to see the growth of white nationalist movements?


  • #51
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    What's the story with Irish people on the likes of Boards and Twitter whose personalities seem to be completely consumed by American culture and politics? It's gotten really weird.

    Different election than the norm, had no real interest before. Celebrity anti PC loudmouth vs seasoned corrupt stooge. I found the entire thing fascinating, also there were other things in play which do effect Europe to an extent, like attitudes towards the migration crisis, but that's for another thread.


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  • #52
    Lux23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    I think this thread is basically the premise of the show.

    Which I haven't watched, but I might now if people are getting their knickers in a twist about it.


  • #53
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    Lux23 wrote: »
    I think this thread is basically the premise of the show.

    To be fair, if that's the case they should make it clear especially when it's on the Netflix platform where one click of a button cancels your subscription. The title itself is pretty much identical to the MTV video which caused uproar only a few months back, so you might well be right but because of the subscription platform and how negative/hostile the internet is I still think it's extremely dumb.

    Before posting the trailer I checked the directors twitter and it's all anti Trump rhetoric calling for impeachment since he's been elected, so even there it's hard to change the initial impetus after viewing the trailer, which in itself and title only offers a single view.


  • #54
    sbsquarepants
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    Snow Crash wrote: »
    I can't get offended by blackface because of my childhood...

    8353_60_news_hub_multi_630x0.jpg

    The nicest ice cream ever!

    I used to have a giant gollywog as a kid, I loved him.
    True story.


  • #55
    ERG89
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89




    MTV got there first. Looking forward to the inevitable 'Dear Manspreaders' series



  • #56
    Sonics2k
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    ERG89 wrote: »


    MTV got there first. Looking forward to the inevitable 'Dear Manspreaders' series


    Yeah but not they didn't.

    This series is based off of a movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2235108/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

    Saw it myself, it wasn't anything to write home about but was decent enough.


  • #57
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    "Ask" is pronounced "ah-sk" not "axe"


  • #58
    Varik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,550 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    It's Netflix, it doesn't matter what people say.

    They know what you watch and when, and now with the profile stuff they can split that up by household members.

    There's a reason Adam Sandler got the deal he did, and that because people regardless of complaints about his work watched his stuff.

    If it's successful we'd get more and if not we won't.


  • #59
    Irish Guitarist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    I was just thinking I'd really like to wear her as a Halloween costume until she said I couldn't.


  • #60
    conorhal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,098 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Varik wrote: »
    It's Netflix, it doesn't matter what people say.

    They know what you watch and when, and now with the profile stuff they can split that up by household members.

    There's a reason Adam Sandler got the deal he did, and that because people regardless of complaints about his work watched his stuff.

    If it's successful we'd get more and if not we won't.


    I think the 'if you don't like then don't watch it', principle applies. I expect the first couple of episodes will do well on the basis of controversy alone, but the show seems designed to pander to devisive and poisonous intersectional politics for it's appeal, and a lot of 'white people' are frankly tired of PC lectures at this point so I can't see many tuning in for the entertainment value past the first episode.
    I won't be tuning in, if I want a drama about race relations in the US I'll watch The Wire again or Treme again, rather than a clickbait head-lined, hectoring, negative lecture. Because lectures are never compelling drama.


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  • #61
    Guy:Incognito
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    kunst nugget wrote: »
    :confused: Are you having a stroke?

    Auto correct fixed. I'm sure you could have figured it out..


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