New Netflix series "Dear white people" hit with backlash online

Hank Scorpio

Here's the trailer. Probably the most idiotic thing I've ever seen for the premise for a TV show. Judging by the like ratio others agree.

and if there was a show called "dear black people", same people would be out marching that Their lives matter whilst peacefully smashing and looting businesses! whilst the champagne black lives matter brigade are protesting the Oscars!!

they need to speak with Morgan freeman on that note.... he has a cool view on the whole race thing.

I'm guessing because its NETFLIX then it's cool nowadays! kinda like when they put a laurel beside a crap film that says "best movie ever" at some obscure festival and people say, wowww it has laurels, it must be edgey and indie!!!

HalloweenJack

In fairness, the trailer doesn't give much away. Black people being offended by blackface is hardly anything new or offensive. I find it ironic that people who whinge about others being overly sensitive are getting their knickers in a knot about 35 seconds of very little to go on.

I would have to see a lot more before being able to make any judgement.

EDIT: It's based on this film: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dear_White_People

How about reading through that and making a more informed decision than getting your blood pressure up over 30 seconds of video?

FTA69

Have you seen the show OP? Have you seen the film it's based on? Or are you just having a knee jerk reaction over nothing?

It's a show based on a film about racial tensions in a university and is told from the perspective of black students. It's a story exploring racism in America, which is a pretty big deal in that particular country by the way. I don't see the problem in that.

Likewise, you're not an American so there's no point in you getting up in arms about a story about racism in a different country.

silverharp

HalloweenJack wrote: »

In fairness, the trailer doesn't give much away. Black people being offended by blackface is hardly anything new or offensive. I find it ironic that people who whinge about others being overly sensitive are getting their knickers in a knot about 35 seconds of very little to go on.

I would have to see a lot more before being able to make any judgement.

How much time do you think Dear Black People would get? :pac:

Hank Scorpio

HalloweenJack wrote: »

In fairness, the trailer doesn't give much away. Black people being offended by blackface is hardly anything new or offensive. I find it ironic that people who whinge about others being overly sensitive are getting their knickers in a know about 35 seconds of very little to go on.

I would have to see a lot more before being able to make any judgement.

Yes it's clearly satire, imo "Dear Black people" wouldn't fly over one would think - either way I think the race baiting nonsense needs to stop. It's not the smartest move in the book by Netflix after the MTV video with the same title went viral for all the wrong reasons, perhaps that's the angle but I don't think it's a wise one.

HalloweenJack

"Dear Black People" could get made if it was done properly. People need to stop and think and analyse what is going on instead of instantly reacting to everything.

Hank Scorpio

FTA69 wrote: »

Have you seen the show OP? Have you seen the film it's based on? Or are you just having a knee jerk reaction over nothing?

It's a show based on a film about racial tensions in a university and is told from the perspective of black students. It's a story exploring racism in America, which is a pretty big deal in that particular country by the way. I don't see the problem in that.

Likewise, you're not an American so there's no point in you getting up in arms about a story about racism in a different country.

What knee jerk reaction? I think it's a stupid name for a TV series after what happened with the MTV video.

I read about it here from a reddit post.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2017/02/09/dear-white-people-trailer-sparks-backlash-netflix-faces-claims/

Wibbs

FTA69 wrote: »

Likewise, you're not an American so there's no point in you getting up in arms about a story about racism in a different country.

Kinda this TBH. I had occasion to chat with a black lad who had grown up in Chicago and then moved to the UK through his career and he said the difference between the two cultures was a large one. Sure he did get some race stuff in the UK, but in the US it was somehow deeper, more divisive and lines on both sides were more sharply drawn. America and "race" is a huge subject and an oft oddball one too. Even within a group like "white people". Where a native Spaniard is somehow "less white" than a German, but Italians are seen as "white".

silverharp

Given that it was made in 2015/2016 the chances are it will have a heavy sjw input and essentially will be a reverse Huckleberry Finn, if its genuine parody of identity politics nonsense then cool but its unlikely

listermint

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

What knee jerk reaction? I think it's a stupid name for a TV series after what happened with the MTV video.

I read about it here from a reddit post.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2017/02/09/dear-white-people-trailer-sparks-backlash-netflix-faces-claims/

So you read a reddit post. Haven't watched it and came on here to complain about it.


Bit rte complainy curtain twitcher aint it ?

skankkuvhima

It probably wouldn't have been noticed except for that moronic "New Year’s resolutions for white men" on MTV. People are sensitive regardless of gender or colour you know.

Hank Scorpio

listermint wrote: »

So you read a reddit post. Haven't watched it and came on here to complain about it.


Bit rte complainy curtain twitcher aint it ?

Shouldn't you be over on the dead politics forum bullying people?

I can post what I want - Stuff like this does nothing besides create further divisiveness which is evident by the backlash it's receiving.

The MTV story was posted on AH and nobody seemed to have a problem.

skankkuvhima

listermint wrote: »

So you read a reddit post. Haven't watched it and came on here to complain about it.


Bit rte complainy curtain twitcher aint it ?

Where should people complain sir?

Galway_Old_Man

HalloweenJack wrote: »

"Dear Black People" could get made if it was done properly.

"Dear" as in expensive, as in you're talking about the price of certain Black people... that they could be bought and sold... HalloweenJack is advocating slavery everybody! Let's get him!

pickarooney

I see Issa Rae is in it. Sign me up!

Jelle1880

Maybe people should watch it first before getting all upset ?

Yourself isit

Id like a Dear Yank People.

Dear Yanks, stop killing millions of people, dominating world culture, and whining about your lack of privilege if you isn't white.

jaykay74

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Here's the trailer. Probably the most idiotic thing I've ever seen for the premise for a TV show. Judging by the like ratio others agree.

Haven't seen it. Any good ?

Sonics2k

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Shouldn't you be over on the dead politics forum bullying people?

I can post what I want - Stuff like this does nothing besides create further divisiveness which is evident by the backlash it's receiving.

The MTV story was posted on AH and nobody seemed to have a problem.

The difference between the MTV clip and this is that we saw all of the MTV ad and were able to judge it properly.

This is a clip, a highlight which clearly shows a level of satire to the comments which the MTV ad did not.

In otherwords Hank, your Snowflake is showing.

Hank Scorpio

Sonics2k wrote: »

The difference between the MTV clip and this is that we saw all of the MTV ad and were able to judge it properly.

This is a clip, a highlight which clearly shows a level of satire to the comments which the MTV ad did not.

In otherwords Hank, your Snowflake is showing.

What's it satirizing?

The_Valeyard

No idea what it will be about, but it could just show the ridiculous nature of the sjw movement. Probably not, but you never know.

Sonics2k

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

What's it satirizing?

The music is a massive hint, the intro and the overall style point at a comedic satire.

I'm not saying it's not going to be as stupid as the MTV clip, but what I am saying is that you cannot judge it until it has been fully released and watched it.

Did it not maybe cross your mind that Netflix released it in such a way as this to drive up controversy and get people talking about it? Its like, Marketing 101.

Yourself isit

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

What's it satirizing?

Seems like it's a lot of black Americans criticising Albanians and Estonians because privilege.

Hank Scorpio

Sonics2k wrote: »

The music is a massive hint, the intro and the overall style point at a comedic satire.

I'm not saying it's not going to be as stupid as the MTV clip, but what I am saying is that you cannot judge it until it has been fully released and watched it.

Did it not maybe cross your mind that Netflix released it in such a way as this to drive up controversy and get people talking about it? Its like, Marketing 101.

Every second comment is someone saying they quit their Netflix subscription, so no.

silverharp

Sonics2k wrote: »

The music is a massive hint, the intro and the overall style point at a comedic satire.

I'm not saying it's not going to be as stupid as the MTV clip, but what I am saying is that you cannot judge it until it has been fully released and watched it.

Did it not maybe cross your mind that Netflix released it in such a way as this to drive up controversy and get people talking about it? Its like, Marketing 101.

On the Youtube trailer commenters are saying their comments are being deleted, sounds awfully like what Sony did with Ghostbusters so makes it sound like they may have fkd up

Sonics2k

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Every second comment is someone saying they quit their Netflix subscription, so no.

Oh no, people on YouTube are mad and overreacting to a trailer.

I disliked the MTV trailer as much as anyone else, because it was just plain racist and annoyingly American focused, but this is just a trailer.

Anyone with any resemblance of logic would be smart enough to wait until the show is out before judging it.

Galway_Old_Man

I quit my Netflix yesterday.


Because I got a new credit card and I wanna register a-new with that to get a free month.

Guy:Incognito

Remember when The Real O'Neals was going to be the most offensive thing to irish people there for a while ..........

jaykay74

Sonics2k wrote: »

Anyone with any resemblance of logic would be smart enough to wait until the show is out before judging it.

logic ? on the comment section of youtube :pac:

Hank Scorpio

Sonics2k wrote: »

Oh no, people on YouTube are mad and overreacting to a trailer.

I disliked the MTV trailer as much as anyone else, because it was just plain racist and annoyingly American focused, but this is just a trailer.

Anyone with any resemblance of logic would be smart enough to wait until the show is out before judging it.

You smirked it was "Marketing 101".

Yeah I'm pretty that doesn't involve giving people reasons to cancel their subscription, it's trending on twitter now.

super_furry

Seems like some precious right-wing snowflakes are being triggered by the title. They'll be looking for Netflix to be banned so they can have their safe-space.

Am I doing this right?

gramar

=HalloweenJack;102564188 Black people being offended by blackface is hardly anything new or offensive.

Are black people offended by blackface? (stupid term by the way)
What if I was to dress up as Stevie Wonder but I didn't blacken up to avoid offence then it would be a fairly crap effort at dressing up.

...'what did you come as?'
Me...'Stevie Wonder'
...'but you're not black'
Me..'yeah....'
...'kinda stupid dressing up as a black person if you don't paint yourself black'
Me...'yeah...'

Hank Scorpio

super_furry wrote: »

Seems like some precious right-wing snowflakes are being triggered by the title. They'll be looking for Netflix to be banned so they can have their safe-space.

Am I doing this right?

Nope, people are just fed up of leftist ideologies and tactics like race baiting.

AnGaelach

jaykay74 wrote: »

Haven't seen it. Any good ?

The movie was horrendous, it was about some half-black girl who decides she hates white people because she felt awkward being seeing with her white father in public as a child.

Canis Lupus

Can someone tell me if I'm supposed to be offended by all of this?

silverharp

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Can someone tell me if I'm supposed to be offended by all of this?

you cant be offended..you're a white male! :pac:

super_furry

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Can someone tell me if I'm supposed to be offended by all of this?

Apparently so. The people who are always telling other people that they shouldn't be so easily offended seem to think so anyway.

sbsquarepants

Am I personally offended, no - I couldn't care less.
Would I watch it? No - it looks shíte.

But that being said it is definitely a double standard.

Dear black people would of course be racist.
The MOWO awards would of course be racist.
Oscars so black?- you may as well join the KKK
Bla bla bla

jaykay74

AnGaelach wrote: »

The movie was horrendous, it was about some half-black girl who decides she hates white people because she felt awkward being seeing with her white father in public as a child.

Doesn't sound great, I'II probably skip it and watch something else instead.

Potential-Monke

I haven't seen it, but i'm gonna take a while guess that it's probably going to contain a lot of black people calling each other the N word (which we still can't type because feelings, and i'm white) while telling off white people for calling them the N word... Or maybe not, but that seems to be the trend.

Either way, i won't be watching it, it's not targeted towards me so meh.

Jelle1880

AnGaelach wrote: »

The movie was horrendous, it was about some half-black girl who decides she hates white people because she felt awkward being seeing with her white father in public as a child.

You clearly didn't understand the movie (or you simply didn't see it).

It poked fun at everyone.

silverharp

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Either way, i won't be watching it, it's not targeted towards me so meh.

its probably targeted at African American woman as opposed to every white person has to watch this but still double standards should be pointed out

Maximus Alexander

What's the story with Irish people on the likes of Boards and Twitter whose personalities seem to be completely consumed by American culture and politics? It's gotten really weird.

sbsquarepants

AnGaelach wrote: »

The movie was horrendous, it was about some half-black girl who decides she hates white people because she felt awkward being seeing with her white father in public as a child.

Sounds shíte.
I'd rather see a movie about a half black girl / half fish who comes to Manhattan and falls in love with Tom Hanks. Now that's box office gold:D

super_furry

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

What's the story with Irish people on the likes of Boards and Twitter whose personalities seem to be completely consumed by American culture and politics? It's gotten really weird.

Indeed. Sure they've been arguing for NRA style gun-rights here recently.

Dravokivich

silverharp wrote: »

How much time do you think Dear Black People would get? :pac:

I'm sure it would get a segment within Black History Month.

Snow Crash

HalloweenJack wrote: »

In fairness, the trailer doesn't give much away. Black people being offended by blackface is hardly anything new or offensive.

I can't get offended by blackface because of my childhood...

kunst nugget

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Remember when the real oneals was going to be the most offence thing to irish people every for a while ..........

Are you having a stroke?

orubiru

Sonics2k wrote: »

The music is a massive hint, the intro and the overall style point at a comedic satire.

I'm not saying it's not going to be as stupid as the MTV clip, but what I am saying is that you cannot judge it until it has been fully released and watched it.

Did it not maybe cross your mind that Netflix released it in such a way as this to drive up controversy and get people talking about it? Its like, Marketing 101.

I can definitely see an argument that minority groups have been the butt of jokes for a long, long, time in the USA and so why shouldn't white people have a taste of their own medicine?

I kind of agree with that and I think, yeah, maybe people shouldn't take this stuff seriously. Then you have to remember though that over the years making jokes about people based on race or gender has been becoming less acceptable and it seemed for a long time that this was what the people wanted. No racist jokes, no sexist jokes. They are deemed offensive.

Now it seems like racism and sexism is back on the table so long as it's aimed at white people. We don't really call it "racism" though because "prejudice plus power".

There is definitely an argument that "punching up" is seen as more acceptable than "punching down". Should we be surprised though when people start punching back?

I guess it's really aimed at college kids and hopefully it's just a good fun show that doesn't get anyone too riled up.

Or it could be a massive own goal that puts race relations in the USA back a few decades. (Obviously not this show alone but the cumulative effect of such content)

People will argue that anti-Muslim sentiment is playing into the hands of groups like ISIS so surely the same argument holds here? Shows like this are an opportunity for white supremacy groups to gain popularity and recruit impressionable young people.

If it becomes fashionable to single out "white people" in a nation that is 63% white then would it really be that much of a surprise to see the growth of white nationalist movements?

Hank Scorpio

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

What's the story with Irish people on the likes of Boards and Twitter whose personalities seem to be completely consumed by American culture and politics? It's gotten really weird.

Different election than the norm, had no real interest before. Celebrity anti PC loudmouth vs seasoned corrupt stooge. I found the entire thing fascinating, also there were other things in play which do effect Europe to an extent, like attitudes towards the migration crisis, but that's for another thread.