Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

26-01-2017 02:36PM

IONIQ looks better and better all the time. Seen as I paid for pleather on the LEAF I would have no problem paying extra for the same on the next car. "Next" will be in 2020 so hopefully the importers will sort it out by then.

Jakey Rolling · 26-01-2017 02:43PM

Have contacted 4 further dealers in the Munster region and I am astounded by the lack of interest they have in selling the Ioniq EV. Out of the 4, only 1 has responded so far and they quoted E31.5k OTR price (metallic). No discount offered for cash rather than trade-in.

Would I be right in supposing that the dealers are not incentivised sufficiently to sell these, when margins and ongoing servicing revenue are better on the petrol and diesels?

unkel · 26-01-2017 02:45PM

Just heard there's a delay with the February 20th arrival date of the shipment of Ioniqs into the country

who_ru · 26-01-2017 03:34PM

unkel wrote: »

Just heard there's a delay with the February 20th arrival date of the shipment of Ioniqs into the country

Donald has confiscated the ship until Hyandai pay a huge border tax for not making the cars in the USA.

n97 mini · 26-01-2017 05:08PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah , sure the sales people hardly know any of these things.

One thing that really bugs me is that Hyundai Ireland decided for us (thanks Hyundai Ireland) that we can't have the full spec Ioniq , ridiculous !

In two years time an ex-UK full leather/full spec model should be less than half the current price, especially if the higher range model is out by then.

zilog_jones · 26-01-2017 05:57PM

paulers06 wrote: »

The LED daytime running lights aren't coming on. Is there a setting for this?

I can't confirm for the Ioniq, but on some cars the DRLs will only turn on when you first put it in D after starting the car. Have you checked this?

isnottheword · 26-01-2017 06:26PM

zilog_jones wrote: »

I can't confirm for the Ioniq, but on some cars the DRLs will only turn on when you first put it in D after starting the car. Have you checked this?

Ok, so if you stick it in B and keep it there, they won't switch on??

zilog_jones · 27-01-2017 12:56PM

Actually I'm wrong - I was basing my assumption on my Prius, but after checking the manual it's actually when the parking brake is released that the DRLs will come on, and nothing to do with the transmission. I'm sure the Ioniq will say in the manual for what conditions the DRLs will turn on (I can't find the manual online).

KCross · 27-01-2017 06:46PM

unkel wrote: »

The regen on the Ioniq is far more aggressive, particularly when you set it to level 2 or 3 (see my review for what these levels mean in practice)

In level 3 you can drive the car all day only using the accelerator pedal, unless you have to emergency brake.

Deleted User wrote: »

Leaf regen is 30 Kw max whether you use B or not, B is only really designed for long downhill descents where you can minimise use of the brake pedal a lot. In normal driving it serves little purpose.

I wonder how many Kw regen creates in the Ioniq ?

unkel wrote: »

Another good question. I have no idea. I guess it's a similar percentage of max power output? Leaf has 80kW and 30kW max regen, so the Ioniq has 90kW and 33kW regen as a first guess?

Looking at the Fully Charged episode which reviews the Ioniq he showed the dash while he was doing some regen and it showed -55kW so it at least goes to that level.

That also explains why people say it is quite powerful. Thats twice what the Leaf does, so it must be almost like standing on the brakes.

unkel · 27-01-2017 06:52PM

KCross wrote: »

it must be almost like standing on the brakes.

Not quite, but it brakes more aggressively than I would normally brake myself in traffic like in braking for an upcoming red traffic light

I guess at 55kW it would brake / decelerate at roughly two thirds of maximum acceleration (88kW) to give you another idea of how strong the regen level 3 braking is (that's assuming of course it doesn't use friction braking while doing regen - I should hope not!

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Villain · 27-01-2017 07:51PM

I see on the FB groups there is a recall for the Ioniq for an issue with the brakes, sounds like a minor issue.

n97 mini · 27-01-2017 08:27PM

55kw sounds like quite a lot. Combined with natural loss of inertia that could be severe!

Having said that the 30kw in the Leaf doesn't feel like much. I reckon the Civic IMA "drags" more when regen is at its max.

27-01-2017 10:43PM

That's why you got variable regen on the steering wheel ! :-)

unkel · 27-01-2017 10:47PM

Villain wrote: »

I see on the FB groups there is a recall for the Ioniq for an issue with the brakes, sounds like a minor issue.

Had some noise a few times in my rental car - seemingly from the front brakes. I think a few people on UK forums mentioned something similar. Was that it? If so I presume the dealer will do the fix before he hands me my car.

Fiery mutant · 27-01-2017 10:49PM

I've heard it on mine a couple times too, gonna call the dealer in the morning to arrange to have it sorted.

paulers06 · 28-01-2017 08:56AM

Have the issue with mine, a grinding noise when driving at slow speeds when the car first gets moving. Was in the dealership yesterday and they said the rear break pads are slightly too thick. Said to drive it for a week and it should go away. If not gone in a week they'll sort it.

paulers06 · 28-01-2017 09:02AM

paulers06 wrote: »

Just picked up my Ioniq this evening and am loving to so far. Couple of questions for my fellow Ioniq owners

There aren't any POI charge points loaded. I gave the car a hot spot but still nothing. Am I missing something?

The LED daytime running lights aren't coming on. Is there a setting for this?

Thanks everyone for the replies, have both issues sorted.

The setting for the charge points is in Settings - Nav settings - Connector Type

There weren't any options selected but once I selected the right connectors the chargers started displaying on the map and on nearby charging stations in the EV menu. Local fast charger not appearing but it is newish so maybe it just needs an update.

Pkiernan · 28-01-2017 10:46AM

unkel wrote: »

I bet no one else in Ireland has these two cars on their driveway

Is that Jedwards driveway?

28-01-2017 09:21PM

You don't see many new estates like that today with trees , hedges and grass !

Walls, concrete and fences, god forbid greedy builders give anyone a garden these days, fear they might loose some money if they give someone some space.

There's a rant for ye. :-)

isnottheword · 28-01-2017 09:27PM

Deleted User wrote: »

You don't see many new estates like that today with trees , hedges and grass !

Walls, concrete and fences, god forbid greedy builders give anyone a garden these days, fear they might loose some money if they give someone some space.

There's a rant for ye. :-)

Waaay off topic but 'greedy builders' wouldn't be a concern if there was proper ( unadulterated & uncorrupted )regulation. A discussion for another forum.

unkel · 28-01-2017 09:32PM

You're not wrong, Mad_Lad. Bought off the plans in '99. Back then all the cheap starter homes in Dublin suburbs were semi-detached with front + rear garden, side entrance and driveway for 2 cars. Today it's all terraced, with tiny back garden and no front garden. Never mind a driveway.

Was hoping the free EVSE install would be near the end of the driveway in the divider between my driveway and my neighbour's (in between a couple of shrubs, so nicely out of view). Will they do that? If not, will they do it if I pay extra?

Water John · 28-01-2017 09:42PM

Is it not up to you to run an underground cable out there?
I think you have to provide the pedestel as well.

n97 mini · 28-01-2017 10:46PM

unkel wrote: »

You're not wrong, Mad_Lad. Bought off the plans in '99. Back then all the cheap starter homes in Dublin suburbs were semi-detached with front + rear garden, side entrance and driveway for 2 cars. Today it's all terraced, with tiny back garden and no front garden. Never mind a driveway.

If you're lucky. Latterly they switched to apartments in green fields, in places like Drumshanbo!

28-01-2017 10:59PM

Seriously, we can do much better than these types of eyesores , disgrace ! ow horrid and bare can you get ?

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oinkely · 30-01-2017 03:13PM

That's not too bad mad lad, at least there is a patch of grass and a hint of a driveway!

Villain · 30-01-2017 03:19PM

Has anyone actually got 200KM of driving from the Ioniq in Ireland, including motorway driving?

30-01-2017 03:21PM

oinkely wrote: »

That's not too bad mad lad, at least there is a patch of grass and a hint of a driveway!

God help us though, I mean do we not think we deserve much better ?

Are we not entitled to open our doors to see some trees, hedges or entitled to some space ?

Disgraceful, the laws for new developments should be changed and fast and not allow developers to create such crap holes for people to live in.

One extreme to the other, either live in the middle of nowhere or in a horrible box estate house with hardly room for a double bed and chest of drawers, no other choice.

bk · 30-01-2017 03:27PM

Deleted User wrote: »

One extreme to the other, either live in the middle of nowhere or in a horrible box estate house with hardly room for a double bed and chest of drawers, no other choice.

Unfortunately we have no one but ourselves to blame for that.

The population of Dublin is exploding and their simply isn't the space for everyone to have a three bed detached house with gardens front and back. It is simply impossible with the size of the population in Dublin now, the population density and the rate of increase.

The solution is to move to European style high quality apartments, surrounded by nice grounds and even children's play areas.

But no, Irish people are just stupidly obsessed with having a three bedroom house and a patch of ugly, unshared grass out front and back.

30-01-2017 03:41PM

People don't have much of a choice though that's the problem an people don't have any half decent garden today, mostly not anyway. I've even seen some estates in Carlow Town and the small wooden shed takes up half the garden and a horrid 6ft high wall all around, these places are more like prisons than homes.

And yes I agree about decent apartments in Dublin but for quiet a lot of the country there is no excuse for these eyesore housing estates where there is space.

They can do so much better but they don't have to and we don't demand better that's half the problem. Though luckily I'm getting out of the concrete jungle soon......finally free !

bk · 30-01-2017 03:47PM

Back on topic, I have to say I'm loving everything I'm reading and seeing about the Ioniq, it seems to be so close too the perfect EV.

I have to say it has great looks and I don't mean just for an EV, I mean for any car, including ICE, high praise IMO. Finally not only a normal looking car, but a really nice looking one. Though I do think they can do better with the front grill.

Obviously the extra range and the very efficient way it uses it thanks to it's low drag is great.

The fast battery charging looks great. I'm also really impressed that the range estimate looks to be very accurate, which I think is so important and something other EV's have gotten badly wrong IMO. I think accuracy and reliability of the range estimate is so important for an EV.

Loads of great tech gadgets on board, though the lack of an app in Europe is pretty poor.

I have to say it looks like a spot on, incredibly refined EV, frankly almost exactly what I'm looking for!

I do however wonder if Hyundai have made a mistake in building it the way they have, as a 3 in 1, with an ICE engine and hybrid engines, etc. Rather then as a pure BEV. As a result I believe it is slightly compromised as a BEV IMO. The batteries are under the rear seats, rather then under the floor like Tesla, etc. That means less space for the batteries, which is why they could literally only fit 28Kwh of battery in their today and why they have to wait for increased battery densities in future to fit higher capacity batteries. Also the front engine bay clearly has loads of wasted space due to the design.

If it had been designed as a pure BEV with underfloor batteries, then it could easily have come with 40 and 50KWh, maybe even 60kwh options today and people would be talking about this car as a Bolt/Model 3 killer and I suspect would sell like hotcakes.

Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

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