Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

grogi · 25-01-2017 05:12PM

isnottheword wrote: »

By all means - someone come back and correct me. However, I switch to B when I anticipate the traffic or road conditions in front of me demanding that I slow down or stop. It duly slows down albeit that I might have to finish off the procedure with a gently tip on the brakes. The display also shows a level of regen - may not be much but I'm really considering being kind to the brake discs/pads rather than expecting any major upside from regen.

Am I mistaken or is this good practice?

A gentle push on the brakes would do exactly the same.

isnottheword · 25-01-2017 05:29PM

grogi wrote: »

A gentle push on the brakes would do exactly the same.

So there's no point in switching to B mode?

TBi · 25-01-2017 05:45PM

isnottheword wrote: »

So there's no point in switching to B mode?

It's usually for going down steep gradients so you aren't continually braking.

highdef · 25-01-2017 05:55PM

grogi wrote: »

A gentle push on the brakes would do exactly the same.

It will do the same job in terms of making the car slow down however instead of energy going back into the battery, some will be wasted as heat due to the friction of the brake pads on the discs. I'd rather put that energy into the battery instead of wasting it through the pads, not to mention the extra wear on the pads and discs, no matter how minimal it is.

n97 mini · 25-01-2017 06:11PM

grogi wrote: »

A gentle push on the brakes would do exactly the same.

On the Leaf pressing the brake pedal (almost) always applies the friction brakes to a varying amount.

From Nissan's page about the system:

isnottheword · 25-01-2017 06:25PM

So HighDef/N97_mini : Should I continue on with the same practice I've been using (flicking over to B mode when I anticipate having to slow down)?

n97 mini · 25-01-2017 06:34PM

isnottheword wrote: »

So HighDef/N97_mini : Should I continue on with the same practice I've been using (flicking over to B mode when I anticipate having to slow down)?

I do the same, or just leave it in B mode if I'm in stop-start traffic, i.e. city driving.

KCross · 25-01-2017 06:34PM

isnottheword wrote: »

So HighDef/N97_mini : Should I continue on with the same practice I've been using (flicking over to B mode when I anticipate having to slow down)?

IMO either method is fine. I do the same as you if I can see the need to slow down well in advance. Its a quick easy flick of the dial to put it in B and back out again. Doing it with the brake gives the same end result but I'd rather rest my foot!

Its simply down to personal preference.

25-01-2017 07:38PM

n97 mini wrote: »

On the Leaf pressing the brake pedal (almost) always applies the friction brakes to a varying amount.

From Nissan's page about the system:

Friction Brakes will be applied if you require more braking than regen can apply.

Only for those who desire the so called one pedal driving that B mode provides it otherwise serves little purpose as it's main function was to not have to keep pressing the brake pedal on long hilly descents and it works brilliantly for this.

I rarely use B and my pad and disk wear is unnoticeable.

For anyone driving in B to save energy or brake wear, you're wasting your time. What will make the most difference is allowing time for the car to come to a stop where possible without regen. Drive and coast as much as possible and then brake at the end, not always possible.

25-01-2017 07:47PM

isnottheword wrote: »

So HighDef/N97_mini : Should I continue on with the same practice I've been using (flicking over to B mode when I anticipate having to slow down)?

It makes no difference it's more of a preference. But anticipating the stop more and lifting off at a distance and finding neutral on the throttle and braking at the last moment.

When you look at the energy monitor you will know neutral when there is no regen or power on the motor power display. It's actually easier to get in Eco by the extra resistance in the throttle and if you use B you can get variable regen by lifting off or pressing the throttle again gently.

regen isn't efficient , so the idea is to use only the energy you need.

paulers06 · 25-01-2017 08:45PM

Just picked up my Ioniq this evening and am loving to so far. Couple of questions for my fellow Ioniq owners

There aren't any POI charge points loaded. I gave the car a hot spot but still nothing. Am I missing something?

The LED daytime running lights aren't coming on. Is there a setting for this?

25-01-2017 08:49PM

Nice one, well wear ! Another EV on the road !

Fiery mutant · 25-01-2017 08:55PM

paulers06 wrote: »

Just picked up my Ioniq this evening and am loving to so far. Couple of questions for my fellow Ioniq owners

There aren't any POI charge points loaded. I gave the car a hot spot but still nothing. Am I missing something?

The LED daytime running lights aren't coming on. Is there a setting for this?

With the lights, mine come on anytime I turn the car on, so I'd say there must be a setting for it.

For the charge points, I think you need to upgrade the software on the nav. I haven't done it myself yet either, have in look in the nav manual, will probably say something in there.

25-01-2017 09:07PM

I still can't believe there is no App for the ioniq, absolutely ridiculous.

grogi · 25-01-2017 09:47PM

n97 mini wrote: »

On the Leaf pressing the brake pedal (almost) always applies the friction brakes to a varying amount.

From Nissan's page about the system:

The chart (unclearly) shows that if you brake smoothly enough, around 40% of the maximum deceleration level shown in the chart, the friction brakes will deploy only at the very low speed.

This proves what I have said before - friction will only be used if necessary - when brake is pressed hard or when the car is almost stationary.

Driving or not in B is a matter of preference, how much regenerative braking you want to be applied by the car when you release the throttle pedal. It is like the car is slightly pressing the brake for you, so it feels like engine braking. This is especially important in BMW i3 - which is RWD. The dynamics of RWD are kept, you feel it especially during cornering when you release the accelerator - it behaves like a well revved RWD.

For this reason it is slightly more difficult to achieve the same efficiency when driving in B (or with high regen level) than without it - from time to time an unnecessary kinetic-electric-kinetic energy conversions will happen...

25-01-2017 10:07PM

Leafspy will also show when the friction brakes are applied.

Anyway enough leafing of the Ioniq Thread.

who_ru · 26-01-2017 11:44AM

Car keys review of the Ioniq

26-01-2017 11:48AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8448mXi4_s0

26-01-2017 11:49AM

who_ru wrote: »

Car keys review of the Ioniq

https://youtu.be/8448mXi4_s0

Just post 8448mXi4_s0

Not the whole URL.

jprboy · 26-01-2017 12:04PM

who_ru wrote: »

Car keys review of the Ioniq

Deleted User wrote: »

Just post 8448mXi4_s0

Not the whole URL.

Thanks.

He refers to it at least twice as being 38kW - is it not 28kW?

unkel · 26-01-2017 12:07PM

Yeah, he was wrong. And it's not kW but kWh. And not the motor, but the battery. Would these chaps do a little bit more homework please? Half decent review but there are many others like that saying pretty much the same things about the car. Which is a good thing, I guess. There seems to be consensus out there.

grogi · 26-01-2017 12:14PM

unkel wrote: »

Yeah, he was wrong. And it's not kW but kWh. And not the motor, but the battery. Would these chaps do a little bit more homework please? Half decent review but there are many others like that saying pretty much the same things about the car. Which is a good thing, I guess. There seems to be consensus out there.

You restore my hope in humanity...

26-01-2017 12:17PM

jprboy wrote: »

Thanks.

He refers to it at least twice as being 38kW - is it not 28kW?

No problem.

26-01-2017 12:33PM

Yeah , sure the sales people hardly know any of these things.

One thing that really bugs me is that Hyundai Ireland decided for us (thanks Hyundai Ireland) that we can't have the full spec Ioniq , ridiculous !

unkel · 26-01-2017 01:31PM

Yeah it should have been an option. But I don't think many people would have paid about €2k for leather, perforated and ventilated electric seats + front parking sensors. I certainly wouldn't have. The standard spec is way higher than on any other car in the price class (€25k). And then some. Many features wouldn't be standard or even optional extras on most cars costing €50k or even €75k. Like the active cruise control with lane assist. And wireless phone charging.

26-01-2017 01:40PM

unkel wrote: »

Yeah it should have been an option. But I don't think many people would have paid about €2k for leather, perforated and ventilated electric seats + front parking sensors. I certainly wouldn't have. The standard spec is way higher than on any other car in the price class (€25k). And then some. Many features wouldn't be standard or even optional extras on most cars costing €50k or even €75k. Like the active cruise control with lane assist. And wireless phone charging.

Yeah even if most people wouldn't pay for it , it should still be an option, shame on Hyundai Ireland, I mean would it hurt to have the choice ? what's it to Hyundai Ireland ?

I would say if you said you want the full spec they will import it, they'd be mad not to.

I really hate this crap of many dealers omitting options such as only having one choice of petrol and diesel, even if they would sell 2 a year, let the people decide for themselves what options they want.

That's one thing I really like about the German Brands, usually you get most of the available options.

It's the little things like this that would seriously turn me off Hyundai if they insisted I couldn't get all the options because "they" say I can't have them !

kave2 · 26-01-2017 02:14PM

unkel wrote: »

Yeah it should have been an option. But I don't think many people would have paid about €2k for leather, perforated and ventilated electric seats + front parking sensors. I certainly wouldn't have. The standard spec is way higher than on any other car in the price class (€25k). And then some. Many features wouldn't be standard or even optional extras on most cars costing €50k or even €75k. Like the active cruise control with lane assist. And wireless phone charging.

I would definitely paid 2k for those extras. It also includes blind spot monitoring and rear trafic control.

As far as I know Ionic is 29k with metallic paint not 25k.

And yes, most of the new models in this price would have those gadgets and safety features. It's 2017!

isnottheword · 26-01-2017 02:17PM

Have any of you new Ioniq owners gotten insurance? Guy over on one of the EV facebook groups getting horrendous quotes.

oinkely · 26-01-2017 02:20PM

Price list from Hyundai Deansgrange lists it at €39324 with metallic paint an extra €650. sales guy said there was €10k off this in grants etc.

unkel · 26-01-2017 02:26PM

kave2 wrote: »

As far as I know Ionic is 29k with metallic paint not 25k.

Yes it is. I bought one (with metallic paint) last week

Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh

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