People lamping foxes at night !

Sam Kade · 28-01-2017 12:57AM

Vivienne23 wrote: »

Around here I think they shoot the fox , also another technique they use is squeak some aeroboard off of the car mirror to make a squeaking noise like a mating call type thing if I'm correct, out comes the fox then shine the light then pop animal dead ! It's a very cruel 'sport'

My neighbour was dazzling rabbits one night on his outside farm, which was on a neighbouring farm. He had a .22 rifle shooting away, in all fairness a .22 bullet could travel 400 yards, shooting at ground level the bullet could go anywhere especially when he wasn't experienced in using firearms.

Del2005 · 28-01-2017 01:00AM

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Shouldn't the shooting of foxes really be banned.

They aren't eaten so it's a complete waste of an animal.

What's worse is down around our farm they've killed all the foxes so the place is overrun with rabbits, feckers won't shoot the rabbits through.

Del2005 · 28-01-2017 01:02AM

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

What the f*ck is lamping when it's at home?

Hunting animals at night with powerful lights and guns. Lamp temporarily blinds/stuns the animal so its an easy shot.

Sam Kade · 28-01-2017 01:03AM

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

What the f*ck is lamping when it's at home?

It's usually called dazzling, does that ring a bell?

Xaracatz · 28-01-2017 01:04AM

parishsavings wrote: »

Anyone recommend a good lamp for lamping? Thanks

Well lad. Ever heard of a the mythical land of Petersons in Dun Laoghaire?

topmanamillion · 28-01-2017 01:04AM

Vivienne23 wrote: »

Foxes need to be culled they carry disease but yep it should be done in the daytime somehow humanely if possible and you should have to carry a license to do so !

Firstly I like foxes think they are a beautiful creature but there are certain realities too.
As you say they carry disease but also left uncontrolled their numbers can spiral.
Which isn't good for foxes (inbreeding and diseased animals left to suffer a slow painful death).
Its all about responsible ecological controls.

jameorahiely · 28-01-2017 01:04AM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3816614/Kate-Wills-court-controversy-wearing-scarves-trimmed-sea-otter-fur-given-welcome-gift-chiefs-remote-Canadian-island.html

Sea otter

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4102914/Kate-s-grey-Sandringham-hat-baby-ALPACA-fur-designer-says-uses-animals-die-naturally-freezing-Peru-mountains.html.

Alpaca

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3482887/Toasty-hands-Kate-Duchess-Cambridge-takes-slopes-wearing-ultra-luxurious-295-possum-fur-lined-mittens-mother-gave-present.html
Possum

Fur is back

dicey82 · 28-01-2017 01:09AM

Vivienne23 wrote: »

Around here I think they shoot the fox , also another technique they use is squeak some aeroboard off of the car mirror to make a squeaking noise like a mating call type thing if I'm correct, out comes the fox then shine the light then pop animal dead ! It's a very cruel 'sport'

Your a plank go find out what your talking about before you try bull**** your way in to a conversation

Vincent Vega · 28-01-2017 01:12AM

Xaracatz wrote: »

Well lad. Ever heard of a the mythical land of Petersons in Dun Laoghaire?

With the 5 year guarantee? Thought that was in Nassau St?

Sam Kade · 28-01-2017 01:17AM

dicey82 wrote: »

Your a plank go find out what your talking about before you try bull**** your way in to a conversation

So you registered in December to post this first post, keep up the good work.

Vivienne23 · 28-01-2017 01:20AM

dicey82 wrote: »

Your a plank go find out what your talking about before you try bull**** your way in to a conversation

Touch a nerve there blood sporter? I have seen that done with my own 2 eyes although it is probably about 20 years ago , the only part I'm unsure of is if it's a mating call noise similarity or just the squeaking that attracts them , you should try it if your into that type of thing...

You can say you got the tip off a plank on dat t'internet machine

worded · 28-01-2017 01:26AM

jameorahiely wrote: »

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3816614/Kate-Wills-court-controversy-wearing-scarves-trimmed-sea-otter-fur-given-welcome-gift-chiefs-remote-Canadian-island.html

Sea otter

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4102914/Kate-s-grey-Sandringham-hat-baby-ALPACA-fur-designer-says-uses-animals-die-naturally-freezing-Peru-mountains.html.

Alpaca

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3482887/Toasty-hands-Kate-Duchess-Cambridge-takes-slopes-wearing-ultra-luxurious-295-possum-fur-lined-mittens-mother-gave-present.html
Possum

Fur is back

Took 12 Sea otters to make that. They keep dropping the needle finding it difficult to grip with their paws and are notoriously bad sewers ...

Sam Kade · 28-01-2017 01:36AM

worded wrote: »

Took 12 Sea otters to make that. They keep dropping the needle finding it difficult to grip with their paws and are notoriously bad sewers ...

I wonder what Charlie thinks of all this with his climate change preaching and all that, don't do what we do do what we say :mad:

Dave_The_Sheep · 28-01-2017 01:43AM

Del2005 wrote: »

Hunting animals at night with powerful lights and guns. Lamp temporarily blinds/stuns the animal so its an easy shot.

Well, that sounds delightful.

FISMA. · 28-01-2017 02:16AM

Vivienne23 wrote: »

Touch a nerve there blood sporter? ..the only part I'm unsure of is if it's a mating call noise similarity or just the squeaking that attracts them

As a "blood sporter," to use your terminology, I would say it could be either, but usually the later.

I use a Wam caller to lamp foxes. It brings out a similar response as squeaky toys do for dogs.

Squeaky toys replicate the sounds of a stressed/dying small animal to bring out the kill response in your dog. Ever notice how fido bites down harder or shakes a toy when it squeaks? Or, when the toy is discarded when it stops squeaking?

I am no expert on the canidae breeding cycle, but have seen vixen mating calls online that you could use on your iPhone.

As for the trouble foxes can cause. All too often, I get the call that goes something like...

...The fox ran the sheep last night. The stress killed 3 ewes in gestation and they attacked another.

...The fox got into the hen house last night. Killed them all.

Foxes are nocturnal predators that do not kill for mere sustenance. As long as there is motion, like hens flapping wings, they kill. They kill until they are tired of killing. They do not stop when they kill enough to satisfy their hunger, nor that of the cubs in the den.

When they kill in numbers, they will return to the scene in order to cache the surplus food by burial for later use.

When a fox returns to cache, that is usually when meet me. :eek:

As many posters have mentioned, there is a balance to be struck and the lads lamping your drive appear to be complete muppets. If I were you, I would report the matter to the Gardai.

Anyone that understands the natural equilibrium, will often recognize and respect the dominant local fox.

Foxes are intelligent. If left to established equilibrium, a dominant/alpha fox will often establish and keep order in his locale. It's the passers-by and freeloaders that often cause trouble.

Unfortunately, too many lads want to shoot anything that reflects when lamped as opposed to keeping the natural balance.

When balance is achieved, a local alpha fox can be an asset rather than a liability. Foxes can suppress rodent populations and keep rabbits populations in check.

In regards to foxes, all too often it is: the passers-through that cause the problems or an area without an alpha male that has trouble.

Sounds like the situation you have with the idiots with the lamp: they're not locals, just passers-by.

That's my rant Viv!!! :pac:

(ps) Lidl sells cheap game cams occasionally. Get one for the drive so you can get their reg!

28-01-2017 02:19AM

Do you think a burglar is gonna park up right outside your house and flute around with a lamp, shining it around the place?

darkpagandeath · 28-01-2017 02:52AM

Vivienne23 wrote: »

Touch a nerve there blood sporter? I have seen that done with my own 2 eyes although it is probably about 20 years ago , the only part I'm unsure of is if it's a mating call noise similarity or just the squeaking that attracts them , you should try it if your into that type of thing...

You can say you got the tip off a plank on dat t'internet machine

Try avoiding Pork products when you need medical attention.

worded · 28-01-2017 03:01AM

Small screen - I thought it read "people laughing at foxes"

Turned out to be not as bad as that, nothing more cruel than laughing at an animal .....

DrGreenthumb · 28-01-2017 03:02AM

here is one fox I'd lamp day or night

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 28-01-2017 03:20AM

Mustafa Salmon Post wrote: »

Lamping is usually done by the same people who rob houses.

Generalize much?

Vivienne23 wrote: »

It should really be banned or some kind of restriction it's giving anyone free range to scout areas...now I think this was innocent hunting but there is definitely a rogue element to it too , it's the perfect cover

There are restrictions. If you want to ban it, give a good reason for it, not "we were scared".

222233 wrote: »

It should be banned. really there is no such thing as ~innocent hunting imo.

What is innocent hunting?

222233 wrote: »

Absolutely it's a cruel and unnecessary menace. Very unnerving to have strange people out and about in rural Ireland at night.

Imagine, strange people... what's the world coming to at all.

Vivienne23 wrote: »

Foxes need to be culled they carry disease but yep it should be done in the daytime somehow humanely if possible and you should have to carry a license to do so !

Do you have any clue at all about hunting, or firearms for that matter? You need a license to carry a firearm.

feartuath · 28-01-2017 03:22AM

Great way to pass a few hours
We usually text the local guard to let him know what we are up to .
Funny we nearly always end up report any suspicious cars we see in our travels and thay info has been very usefull to him

Mountainsandh · 28-01-2017 03:42AM

feartuath wrote: »

Great way to pass a few hours
We usually text the local guard to let him know what we are up to .
Funny we nearly always end up report any suspicious cars we see in our travels and thay info has been very usefull to him

That's great feartuath, but a little word some time before to local residents would be a welcome courtesy. AFAIK hunters often call in the area prior to shooting days so even a little note left in the letterbox advising people that you might be around some time in the near future would go a long way towards reassuring them.
I'm in a very similar situation to OP.

Stigura · 28-01-2017 04:03AM

Senna wrote: »

Yes, please only use torches during the day.

When I used to go lamping, I always went in the day. Beam went much further. And it was easier finding my way back to the car.

jonon9 · 28-01-2017 04:41AM

Lamping for the tough boyos with their bang bangs.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 28-01-2017 05:40AM

Half this site are Jacks.

They have never heard of Lamping. In my locale they lamp rabbits and hunt foxes.

I strongly disagree with such practices.

Hare Coursing is also a sport down here. It really turns my stomach.

Graces7 · 28-01-2017 06:13AM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Half this site are Jacks.

They have never heard of Lamping. In my locale they lamp rabbits and hunt foxes.

I strongly disagree with such practices.

Hare Coursing is also a sport down here. It really turns my stomach.

Agree totally with all you say.

As one poster has said, foxes can kill lambs and ewes. Seems in Ireland many farmers own land miles from where they live so they have no way of protecting stock.

One place I lived, the farmer used a crowbanger 24/7 to keep the foxes away from his lambing sheep and this is apparently often done.

I am new to this area and it is wild land, far from farms but the land is used and grazed by folk from the valley.

The other morning, very early and still dark, I saw a torch by the barn up the lane.
When I asked the person who came to sort the water supply, she said, " They are hunting foxes; no one says anything."

As long as it is a clean kill? I do not like it, but still?

Graces7 · 28-01-2017 06:16AM

As for the trouble foxes can cause. All too often, I get the call that goes something like...

...The fox ran the sheep last night. The stress killed 3 ewes in gestation and they attacked another.

...The fox got into the hen house last night. Killed them all.

Foxes are nocturnal predators that do not kill for mere sustenance. As long as there is motion, like hens flapping wings, they kill. They kill until they are tired of killing. They do not stop when they kill enough to satisfy their hunger, nor that of the cubs in the den.

When they kill in numbers, they will return to the scene in order to cache the surplus food by burial for later use.

When a fox returns to cache, that is usually when meet me. :eek:

As many posters have mentioned, there is a balance to be struck and the lads lamping your drive appear to be complete muppets. If I were you, I would report the matter to the Gardai.

Anyone that understands the natural equilibrium, will often recognize and respect the dominant local fox.

Foxes are intelligent. If left to established equilibrium, a dominant/alpha fox will often establish and keep order in his locale. It's the passers-by and freeloaders that often cause trouble.

Unfortunately, too many lads want to shoot anything that reflects when lamped as opposed to keeping the natural balance.

When balance is achieved, a local alpha fox can be an asset rather than a liability. Foxes can suppress rodent populations and keep rabbits populations in check.

In regards to foxes, all too often it is: the passers-through that cause the problems or an area without an alpha male that has trouble.

Sounds like the situation you have with the idiots with the lamp: they're not locals, just passers-by.

That's my rant Viv!!! :pac:

This. Regret the killing but the same rules as when a domestic dog attacks sheep.

Sam Kade · 28-01-2017 11:36AM

Cake of Tremendous Power wrote: »

Do you think a burglar is gonna park up right outside your house and flute around with a lamp, shining it around the place?

Read post 15, not all dazzlers do that but some use it as a cover

Graces7 · 28-01-2017 01:13PM

Sam Kade wrote: »

Read post 15, not all dazzlers do that but some use it as a cover

They would hear my dog and flee...

Discodog · 28-01-2017 01:23PM

FISMA. wrote: »

As a "blood sporter," to use your terminology, I would say it could be either, but usually the later.

I use a Wam caller to lamp foxes. It brings out a similar response as squeaky toys do for dogs.

Squeaky toys replicate the sounds of a stressed/dying small animal to bring out the kill response in your dog. Ever notice how fido bites down harder or shakes a toy when it squeaks? Or, when the toy is discarded when it stops squeaking?

I am no expert on the canidae breeding cycle, but have seen vixen mating calls online that you could use on your iPhone.

As for the trouble foxes can cause. All too often, I get the call that goes something like...

...The fox ran the sheep last night. The stress killed 3 ewes in gestation and they attacked another.

...The fox got into the hen house last night. Killed them all.

Foxes are nocturnal predators that do not kill for mere sustenance. As long as there is motion, like hens flapping wings, they kill. They kill until they are tired of killing. They do not stop when they kill enough to satisfy their hunger, nor that of the cubs in the den.

When they kill in numbers, they will return to the scene in order to cache the surplus food by burial for later use.

When a fox returns to cache, that is usually when meet me. :eek:

As many posters have mentioned, there is a balance to be struck and the lads lamping your drive appear to be complete muppets. If I were you, I would report the matter to the Gardai.

Anyone that understands the natural equilibrium, will often recognize and respect the dominant local fox.

Foxes are intelligent. If left to established equilibrium, a dominant/alpha fox will often establish and keep order in his locale. It's the passers-by and freeloaders that often cause trouble.

Unfortunately, too many lads want to shoot anything that reflects when lamped as opposed to keeping the natural balance.

When balance is achieved, a local alpha fox can be an asset rather than a liability. Foxes can suppress rodent populations and keep rabbits populations in check.

In regards to foxes, all too often it is: the passers-through that cause the problems or an area without an alpha male that has trouble.

Sounds like the situation you have with the idiots with the lamp: they're not locals, just passers-by.

That's my rant Viv!!! :pac:

(ps) Lidl sells cheap game cams occasionally. Get one for the drive so you can get their reg!

I would agree with some of your post but the two highlighted parts contradict each other.

People lamping foxes at night !

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