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Chartered Engineer 2016

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Dónal wrote: »
    Recommended timeline.

    It might be recommended but my understanding is that it is taken into account when your resubmission is being assessed


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Deadline day today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭onrail


    godtabh wrote: »
    Deadline day today.

    Application submitted - now for the hard part....!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭Dunphus


    onrail wrote: »
    Application submitted - now for the hard part....!

    The interminable wait? :)

    Or the interview?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,078 ✭✭✭onrail


    Dunphus wrote: »
    The interminable wait? :)

    Or the interview?

    The nagging self-doubt brought about by the wait - followed by the bottomless pit of preparation for the interview!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭Dunphus


    Got the nod.

    Thanks to everyone for the advice in this thread!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 mktsoi


    Hi everyone,
    I am new to this forum. I just got a notification from IEI stating that I can proceed to the interview stage after resubmission of my CEng report. I submitted the CEng report first time ever 6 months ago but been informed that I should resubmit the report so I did in end of June this year. It took IEI for almost two months to inform me that I need to rewrite and resubmit the CEng report. Surprisingly, We are not even at the end of July yet and I got an email from IEI last night telling me that I can proceed to interview stage. I would really need some help with the interview because I had never been into any CEng interview before. Also, I think I will do this via video link if IEI permits me to do it because I live and work overseas.   
    Can anyone give me some advice for the interview and what sort of questions they would ask during the interview via video link please? Also, if I do the interview via video link, how do I present the drawing etc to the interview board?
    Many thx.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    I'd ring and ask about the video link. I've known people to come to dublin from overseas to do this. Lads from the UK and even lads from Oz/Canada who tied it in to a family holiday home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 EmigratedEng


    Hi guys,

    Is anyone else submitting an application next month? I'v prepped everything and have the core of most of my essays sorted, but the issue I'm running into is that nobody in my office has gone through the process. As such, I don't really have a reference for what's a good/bad application. Engineers Ireland also don't run any courses in the country I've emigrated to so I can't reach out to any nearby members.

    Does anyone happen to know of example applications floating about? I'm in structural engineering so something along those lines would be great. And any tips with regards the essays would be massively appreciated.

    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Bobjims


    Hi guys,

    Is anyone else submitting an application next month? I'v prepped everything and have the core of most of my essays sorted, but the issue I'm running into is that nobody in my office has gone through the process. As such, I don't really have a reference for what's a good/bad application. Engineers Ireland also don't run any courses in the country I've emigrated to so I can't reach out to any nearby members.

    Does anyone happen to know of example applications floating about? I'm in structural engineering so something along those lines would be great. And any tips with regards the essays would be massively appreciated.

    Cheers

    Hi,

    I'm applying for the January deadline. I've completed my application and submitted it to my sponsors before the Christmas. Just need to get feedback from them and make relevant revisions before making the final application.

    I don't have any example essays but I've had some advice from other Chartered Engineers on writing the application. The guidance documents from EI are key. Just follow them closely and your application should come out well. If you've any specific questions on the application I'd be happy to help.

    Btw, I'm a mechanical engineer with 6 years experience. What discipline are you qualified in?

    Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 922 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Great to see many folk applying for this - congratulations to those who have obtained it and good luck to those still in the process.

    Out of interest - are many of you from a software background?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 EmigratedEng


    Double Post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15 EmigratedEng


    Bobjims wrote: »
    Hi,

    I'm applying for the January deadline. I've completed my application and submitted it to my sponsors before the Christmas. Just need to get feedback from them and make relevant revisions before making the final application.

    I don't have any example essays but I've had some advice from other Chartered Engineers on writing the application. The guidance documents from EI are key. Just follow them closely and your application should come out well. If you've any specific questions on the application I'd be happy to help.

    Btw, I'm a mechanical engineer with 6 years experience. What discipline are you qualified in?

    Cheers

    Thanks for advice. I've read all the documentation on offer, just had some queries on the writing/essay style. Whether bullet point, project-by-project format is better or to go with a more fluid writing style. Anyway, it's done now so will get feedback either way.


    I'm a qualified civil engineer, but have spent the last 5 years solely doing structural consultancy so that will be my emphasis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Bobjims


    Hi all,

    There doesn't seem to be much discussion around on this year's chartered engineer applications. Was just wondering are there many readers here applying for the January deadline this Friday or planning on applying later this year?

    I've my application completed and with my supporters for online verification. It would be great to get a discussion started here on experiences going through this process and if anyone has any advice for the interview stage.

    Cheers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 ManÓg84


    I’m looking into it but would very much like to hear from folks applying via route b further learning I.e. received hons degree post 2013 and don’t intend getting a masters


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Bobjims wrote: »
    Hi all,

    There doesn't seem to be much discussion around on this year's chartered engineer applications. Was just wondering are there many readers here applying for the January deadline this Friday or planning on applying later this year?

    I've my application completed and with my supporters for online verification. It would be great to get a discussion started here on experiences going through this process and if anyone has any advice for the interview stage.

    Cheers!

    There is an ongoing discussion. Will merge and update later


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Merging threads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 mktsoi


    Hi guys,

    Is anyone else submitting an application next month? I'v prepped everything and have the core of most of my essays sorted, but the issue I'm running into is that nobody in my office has gone through the process. As such, I don't really have a reference for what's a good/bad application. Engineers Ireland also don't run any courses in the country I've emigrated to so I can't reach out to any nearby members.

    Does anyone happen to know of example applications floating about? I'm in structural engineering so something along those lines would be great. And any tips with regards the essays would be massively appreciated.

    Cheers
    Hi, 
    I just gone through the process and got the thumbs up. It was my first attempt for the interview. I submitted my report January 2017 but I was asked to resubmit so I resubmitted my report with some amendments but not much. IEI accepted my report and gave me an interview in January 2018 via video link. No one in my office has CEng from IEI but I had two of the people (one ICE and one IStructE) to sign my report. Someone already mentioned it in the previous post. Just know you report inside out, you will be fine!!!!! Best of luck to you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Bobjims


    mktsoi wrote: »
    Hi, 
    I just gone through the process and got the thumbs up. It was my first attempt for the interview. I submitted my report January 2017 but I was asked to resubmit so I resubmitted my report with some amendments but not much. IEI accepted my report and gave me an interview in January 2018 via video link. No one in my office has CEng from IEI but I had two of the people (one ICE and one IStructE) to sign my report. Someone already mentioned it in the previous post. Just know you report inside out, you will be fine!!!!! Best of luck to you!

    Hey thanks for your reply.

    What was it like doing your interview by video link? I'm based in Sydney so will likely be doing the same. Both my sponsors are CEng who I've worked with in the past.

    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 mktsoi


    You are like 3 hours ahead of me. I had the video link interview at 1800 hours Dublin time because of the assessors could not carry out in the earlier time slot, so I ended up to have the interview at 0200 hours in am. I was struggling to be honest because I was trying to stay up to for the interview. For your case, if they give you a time slot for 1800 Dublin time. You will have the interview at 0500 am in Sydney. I thought about it. I only need to stay up few hours instead of spending a thousand euro to fly over. The video link saved me alot of money! I thought I did not get CEng right after the interview because the lead assessor kept asking difficult questions but to be honest. I think the questions from the assessor was fair because it was all related to my report. Like the other people mentioned previously in the post. The assessors are trying to help the candidate in the interview instead of trying to make it difficult for the candidate. So, if they let you proceed to the interview, make sure you know your report inside out and have an extra example other than what you already written in your report for each competence as a backup!!!!!!


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    mktsoi wrote: »
    You are like 3 hours ahead of me. I had the video link interview at 1800 hours Dublin time because of the assessors could not carry out in the earlier time slot, so I ended up to have the interview at 0200 hours in am. I was struggling to be honest because I was trying to stay up to for the interview. For your case, if they give you a time slot for 1800 Dublin time. You will have the interview at 0500 am in Sydney. I thought about it. I only need to stay up few hours instead of spending a thousand euro to fly over. The video link saved me alot of money! I thought I did not get CEng right after the interview because the lead assessor kept asking difficult questions but to be honest. I think the questions from the assessor was fair because it was all related to my report. Like the other people mentioned previously in the post. The assessors are trying to help the candidate in the interview instead of trying to make it difficult for the candidate. So, if they let you proceed to the interview, make sure you know your report inside out and have an extra example other than what you already written in your report for each competence as a backup!!!!!!

    If you meet the standard you meet the standard. There is no grading curve


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 James Ford


    Hi all,

    Just looking for a bit of advice here. I have twice submitted a chartership application. The first one was returned to me with comments on Competency Essays 1, 2 and 3, and the assessor advised that I could resubmit straight away at the next deadline. I did this, having consulted closely with my application supporters for advice, and resubmitted however my second application was rejected, with deficiencies in all competencies noted except for Competency 4, and I was advised to defer my application for 1-2 years.

    The main thrust of the assessor’s issues with my applications are that I have worked primarily in Construction Management or as a Project/Contracts Manager since graduating. I have never worked in a Design environment, and at this stage am very unlikely to. I was aware of this at the outset as the whole Application is geared more towards engineers in a Design environment. I had a lot of general text in the essays in my first application, and was short on technical data or examples.

    I felt my second attempt made up for the deficiencies in my first, however I received an even more damning assessment! Among the notes I received were that I had not demonstrated any actual engineering experience, creative problem solving or innovation, and that while I may be a very able project manager I need to experience the required competencies or demonstrate properly that I have done so.

    My question is whether anybody else on here has had this difficulty with their application? I have no issues with the Educational Requirements as I graduated Civil Engineering, and also had enough CPD at the time of both applications. I have started the process of achieving PMP Certification and this may add weight to my application, but I’d be interested to hear from anybody else who also works in a Project/Contracts Management role and who got Chartered.

    The last consideration I had was to change direction and apply for chartership with the CIOB instead. I’m not sure if anyone here is chartered with them and can advise on the differences or pro’s/cons, I’ve spoken to a few people in the industry but no one who can give me much definitive advice on this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭con1982


    Hello.

    From reading your post, I feel you were a little unlucky with the assessors.

    I was part of the chartership panel for a few years. The guidance for assessors leaves a lot of room for subjective interpretation. The same application could be approved by a different assessor, depending on their background and experience.

    For people like yourself, who have mostly been involved in the construction/project management side of things, it can be a little trickier to get across the line. I haven't met an assessor who came from an on site background. Engineers Ireland should look at the diversity of their panels. The problem at the minute is finding volunteers.

    Best of luck with your PMP certification. The Irish Chapter could really do with more construction project managers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Bobjims


    Hi all,

    Does anyone else have their chartered interview this coming week? I'm due to do mine and would love to get other engineer's thoughts on it, particularly from those who have been through the interview in the past.

    For preparation, I've been going over my report and thinking of additional examples from my career to demonstrate each of the five competencies. I'm also trying to think of what kind of questions the assessors could ask.

    With the 10 minute presentation, I'll be preparing a short PowerPoint slideshow to go through some of my projects and also discuss one project which I'm working on at the moment that isn't in my report.

    I'm naturally pretty nervous about this, a bit like how you would feel in the run up to a job interview so any advice would be much appreciated!

    Cheers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭thebsharp


    I did mine two years ago. It did feel a bit like a job interview beforehand but I found the interview itself to be very relaxed.

    My presentation consisted of a portfolio of a number of schemes I have worked on. By portfolio I mean 4-5 photos/layouts bound together in A3 with a glossy cover. I spoke about various challenges I faced on each scheme. it seemed to go down very well. They subsequently used my evidence to query other aspects of the schemes which suited me perfectly.

    Don't try bluffing anything - instead acknowledge you don't have the answer to hand, think of a comparative example and talk about that instead.

    Best of luck with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Bobjims


    thebsharp wrote: »
    I did mine two years ago. It did feel a bit like a job interview beforehand but I found the interview itself to be very relaxed.

    My presentation consisted of a portfolio of a number of schemes I have worked on. By portfolio I mean 4-5 photos/layouts bound together in A3 with a glossy cover. I spoke about various challenges I faced on each scheme. it seemed to go down very well. They subsequently used my evidence to query other aspects of the schemes which suited me perfectly.

    Don't try bluffing anything - instead acknowledge you don't have the answer to hand, think of a comparative example and talk about that instead.

    Best of luck with it.

    Thanks for the reply! I did it a few hours ago and I think it went ok. The assessors were very nice to speak to and parts of the interview felt much like a friendly conversation. They were genuinely very interested in my experience.

    Lots of questions about environment, ethics and communications.

    Still I'm not certain on whether I passed or not. All history now anyway and I'll just have to wait and see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭BlackEdelweiss


    I am in a similar situation but I qualified in 2012 with a Sydney accord degree. Too much going on to do a masters. All of my experience is in New Zealand, is there anything I should do before coming home or anything I should bring home with me?
    Don Byrne wrote: »
    I’m looking into it but would very much like to hear from folks applying via route b further learning I.e. received hons degree post 2013 and don’t intend getting a masters


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,262 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Bobjims wrote: »
    Hi all,

    Does anyone else have their chartered interview this coming week? I'm due to do mine and would love to get other engineer's thoughts on it, particularly from those who have been through the interview in the past.

    For preparation, I've been going over my report and thinking of additional examples from my career to demonstrate each of the five competencies. I'm also trying to think of what kind of questions the assessors could ask.

    With the 10 minute presentation, I'll be preparing a short PowerPoint slideshow to go through some of my projects and also discuss one project which I'm working on at the moment that isn't in my report.

    I'm naturally pretty nervous about this, a bit like how you would feel in the run up to a job interview so any advice would be much appreciated!

    Cheers!

    Prepare your opening 10 mins well. Give good examples but not the full story. If you have done it right it gives the panel something to question you on. I did it that way. Worked very well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Bobjims


    godtabh wrote: »
    Prepare your opening 10 mins well. Give good examples but not the full story. If you have done it right it gives the panel something to question you on. I did it that way. Worked very well.

    Already got my result last week because the MQB was sitting the day after my interview. I was awarded the title so had a celebration at the weekend! Such a big relief!

    That's pretty much what I did. I spent a lot of time getting my presentation right and preparing examples from my career which satisfy all of the competencies.

    The interview was very relaxed and was more like a friendly conversation. It was just me demonstrating that what I said in my report was my actual experience.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭engineerfear1


    Does anyone know when the remaining interviews are being held? I submitted my application in January and it was approved but I haven't heard anything since. I find it strange seeing as I know a lot of people who have had their interviews already and I haven't received any confirmation of a date.


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