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  • #4532
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Trump has a moral duty to intervene to stop the starvation in Yemen which the previous president failed on.

    I suspect the same failed policies towards Yemen to stay, a blind eye turned to the country by people who like to get out to protest to continue, and the starvation process in that country to continue unabated.

    This starvation where a child under 10 dies every 10 minutes in Yemen is something a US president could stop if they wanted.
    But I fear the US is tied too close to the Saudi terrorists to do anything, given the hundreds of billions of dollars the Saudis have invested in their country.
    Special interests have ruled the US for a long time, and despite Trump last year calling out the Saudis over 9/11, now that he has power, I don't think anything will come with it.
    The world will watch as the people of Yemen die from the effects of starvation and war.


  • #4533
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,434 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    It's like the conspiracy forum has leaked out into reality and all the former former dwellers are loving it out in the sunlight blaming all the normal folks for the worlds ills.


    It would make a good mini series.


  • #4534
    jobbridge4life
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Trump has a moral duty to intervene to stop the starvation in Yemen which the previous president failed on.

    I suspect the same failed policies towards Yemen to stay, a blind eye turned to the country by people who like to get out to protest to continue, and the starvation process in that country to continue unabated.

    This starvation where a child under 10 dies every 10 minutes in Yemen is something a US president could stop if they wanted.
    But I fear the US is tied too close to the Saudi terrorists to do anything, given the hundreds of billions of dollars the Saudis have invested in their country.
    Special interests have ruled the US for a long time, and despite Trump last year calling out the Saudis over 9/11, now that he has power, I don't think anything will come with it.
    The world will watch as the people of Yemen die from the effects of starvation and war.

    What kind of intervention do you hope for?


  • #4535
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    What kind of intervention do you hope for?

    Have we heard anything in the media about working towards peace there?
    I haven't, it is the hypocrisy of western politics including the US where it is alright to arm and support the Saudis and cause a grave humanitarian catastrophe. Over 10,000 people dead from war and many more from the effects of hunger and related diseases.

    Stop the bombing would be a start, and have peace talks.
    Have a UN resolution where the Saudis are condemned for destroying crops and farmland in Yemen - it wouldn't pass but at least it would draw attention.
    Stop arm sales to Saudi Arabia.
    Set up a no fly zone over Yemen.
    Fix the airport and the sea ports to allow aid in.
    Sanctions against the Saudis until they stop their proxy war in Yemen against Iran.

    None of this will happen. Trump and western leaders will do nothing.
    An example being, when Trump signed an executive order to stop funding to international NGOs who are involved in abortion, we had the Dutch say they will try and make up the difference via a fund.
    Yet we have people dying from hunger as a full scale famine looms and things the US president should be trying to fix as he has influence and something his western allies should be trying to fix and nothing.

    That is what is wrong with this world. We get change but never a moral change for the better, special interests also comes first before people.
    I will be amazed if Trump is any different.


  • #4536
    Hank Scorpio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    listermint wrote: »
    It's like the conspiracy forum has leaked out into reality and all the former former dwellers are loving it out in the sunlight blaming all the normal folks for the worlds ills.


    It would make a good mini series.

    The good thing about tin foil hats is when they lose their charge you can just make more.


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  • #4537
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    The donald has branded madonna as "disgusting". Im sure even the liberals on here can agree with lord donald on this one ?


  • #4538
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,160 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Manic Moran wrote: »
    Tipperary, apparently, several generations back. The Clonmel Nationalist ran it a week or two ago, as I recall.

    Edit. Found it. Great, great, great, great grandmother, 1700s. http://www.nationalist.ie/news/what-s-on/231686/president-trump-s-tipperary-ties.html

    What a surprise, given that Mattie McGrath was the most vocal in the Dáil against marriage equality, and Lowry is one of the most corrupt ministers this country ever had.


  • #4539
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    ricero wrote: »
    The donald has branded madonna as "disgusting". Im sure even the liberals on here can agree with lord donald on this one ?

    Not exactly. Great artist. The best, she's got amazing numbers. Huge numbers.

    Why the **** is he even talking about her ? Is he gonna talk about everybody that doesn't like him ?


  • #4540
    Rjd2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,272 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/822931574106660865

    https://twitter.com/LaloDagach

    https://twitter.com/CathyYoung63/status/823754120578433024


    Yep a very unpleasant character, pretty sure have read she is down with Hamas also. Oh and obviously hates Ayaan Hirsi Ali also.

    It doesn't take much away from what was an awesome protest, but it does highlight an issue the extreme elements of the left have, this rather bizarre friendship with hardline Islamists.


    The story has moved on, but rather amusingly Liberal :pac: Linda is deleting these very tolerant tweets.

    https://twitter.com/LaloDagach/status/824788955619028993


    Aayan for those who don't know was a victim of FGM.:mad:


  • #4541
    osarusan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,861 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Why the **** is he even talking about her ? Is he gonna talk about everybody that doesn't like him ?
    This is what I don't get - his insistence on responding to stuff that he should just leave alone.

    There were more people at Obama's inauguration - so what? It doesn't matter, and it's just empty bleating. But then Trump responds and has his spokesman talk rubbish about it, and he makes his own thin skin the story.


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  • #4542
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    She stressed how it was the birthplace of liberal thought
    Well that isn't true. Americans always think they invented the enlightenment and liberalism. John Locke was from England and died years before the Declaration of independence.


  • #4543
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    Rjd2 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/822931574106660865

    https://twitter.com/LaloDagach

    https://twitter.com/CathyYoung63/status/823754120578433024


    Yep a very unpleasant character, pretty sure have read she is down with Hamas also. Oh and obviously hates Ayaan Hirsi Ali also.

    It doesn't take much away from what was an awesome protest, but it does highlight an issue the extreme elements of the left have, this rather bizarre friendship with hardline Islamists.


    The story has moved on, but rather amusingly Liberal :pac: Linda is deleting these very tolerant tweets.

    https://twitter.com/LaloDagach/status/824788955619028993


    Aayan for those who don't know was a victim of FGM.:mad:
    She is a fraud and I can not believe so many women allowed themselves to get conned by an Islamist who is NOT for equality of women and women's rights. It brings into question the intellectual capacity of modern feminism if they can be conned by this woman.
    The women on the march should be ashamed of themselves by associating themselves with her. The likes of Emmeline Pankhurst would be rolling in her grave if she saw women follow the likes of her.


  • #4544
    Rjd2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,272 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    She is a fraud and I can not believe so many women allowed themselves to get conned by an Islamist who is NOT for equality of women and women's rights. It brings into question the intellectual capacity of modern feminism if they can be conned by this woman.
    The women on the march should be ashamed of themselves by associating themselves with her. The likes of Emmeline Pankhurst would be rolling in her grave if she saw women follow the likes of her.

    I wouldn't go that far, the march was needed and justified to be fair. This clown associated with it shouldn't tarnish that much, but I think the issue is why are so many people dancing around her horrific views, especially celebrities?

    Criticise Trump and his team sure, but don't go quiet when people like this are associated with something you support, that makes you an gutless hypocrite.


  • #4545
    Jelle1880
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    She is a fraud and I can not believe so many women allowed themselves to get conned by an Islamist who is NOT for equality of women and women's rights. It brings into question the intellectual capacity of modern feminism if they can be conned by this woman.
    The women on the march should be ashamed of themselves by associating themselves with her. The likes of Emmeline Pankhurst would be rolling in her grave if she saw women follow the likes of her.

    How many of the people in those marches do you think know her or that she was organising it ? As far as I know her name didn't even pop up on any flyer promoting the march.

    The fact you deem it necessary to paint all the women who participated as shameful just because of her makes zero sense.


  • #4546
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    listermint wrote: »
    It's like the conspiracy forum has leaked out into reality and all the former former dwellers are loving it out in the sunlight blaming all the normal folks for the worlds ills.


    It would make a good mini series.

    It's been like that for a while now. Thankfully they've outed themselves hilariously over and over again.

    Ignore button is a godsend.


  • #4547
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    She is a fraud and I can not believe so many women allowed themselves to get conned by an Islamist who is NOT for equality of women and women's rights. It brings into question the intellectual capacity of modern feminism if they can be conned by this woman.
    The women on the march should be ashamed of themselves by associating themselves with her. The likes of Emmeline Pankhurst would be rolling in her grave if she saw women follow the likes of her.

    I wouldn't go that far, the march was needed and justified to be fair. This clown associated with it shouldn't tarnish that much, but I think the issue is why are so many people dancing around her horrific views, especially celebrities?

    Criticise Trump and his team sure, but don't go quiet when people like this are associated with something you support, that makes you an gutless hypocrite.
    I agree with equality for women. I have a sister and women should be entitled to a fair chance. Women's rights are very important in terms of employment and other issues. I agree IF the positives can be taken out of the march which was seeing so many women engaged in expressing themselves.

    I would have preferred if it wasn't just an excuse to bash Trump which those lame duck celebrities did. I can't believe they would have went if Hillary had won the election. But you add on this Islamist who helped lead it and those awful celebrity speeches, and the positives just get overlooked.


  • #4548
    orubiru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭orubiru


    listermint wrote: »
    It's like the conspiracy forum has leaked out into reality and all the former former dwellers are loving it out in the sunlight blaming all the normal folks for the worlds ills.

    It would make a good mini series.

    Who is to blame for the worlds ills then?

    Obviously you think the conspiracy forum dwellers are blaming the wrong people. Who should they blame?


  • #4549
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,434 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    orubiru wrote: »
    Who is to blame for the worlds ills then?

    Obviously you think the conspiracy forum dwellers are blaming the wrong people. Who should they blame?

    You've made my point.


    Is there a tears emoji ?


  • #4550
    orubiru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭orubiru


    listermint wrote: »
    You've made my point.


    Is there a tears emoji ?

    How have I made your point?

    I asked you two questions and you answered none of them.

    OK so I'll cut it down to one question.

    Obviously you think the conspiracy forum dwellers are blaming the wrong people for the worlds ills. Who should they blame?


  • #4551
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,841 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Manic Moran wrote: »
    Tipperary, apparently, several generations back. The Clonmel Nationalist ran it a week or two ago, as I recall.

    Edit. Found it. Great, great, great, great grandmother, 1700s. http://www.nationalist.ie/news/what-s-on/231686/president-trump-s-tipperary-ties.html

    "One researcher from Irish Genealogy has traced the Trump family line back to Germany, then England and finally, the President’s great great great great grandmother who left Tipperary as far back as the 1700s! "

    Thanks Manic. Thankfully there's very little detail in that article and I suspect it's just wishful thinking on the part of some like-minded souls down in Tipp.
    Irish Genealogical records become very sparse pre-1800 and almost impossible to cross-verify.
    If the link is that far back I think we're in the clear.
    Anyway, he's probably not the original Donald Trump but a Russian substitute like they did with Tito.


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  • #4552
    Leroy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,088 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    I agree with equality for women. I have a sister and women should be entitled to a fair chance. Women's rights are very important in terms of employment and other issues. I agree IF the positives can be taken out of the march which was seeing so many women engaged in expressing themselves.

    I would have preferred if it wasn't just an excuse to bash Trump which those lame duck celebrities did. I can't believe they would have went if Hillary had won the election. But you add on this Islamist who helped lead it and those awful celebrity speeches, and the positives just get overlooked.

    The march was anti Trump because of his attitudes towards women. It wasn't a anti USA, pro Muslim, Democratic party, or any anything else.

    Whilst this women people are talking about may be a muslim and have views on that, that was not what the march was about. If anything, it makes that woman out as a bit weird to to on a pro woman march and asking for more Sharia law. But thats her own square to circle


  • #4553
    orubiru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭orubiru


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    It's been like that for a while now. Thankfully they've outed themselves hilariously over and over again.

    Ignore button is a godsend.

    Why not correct them instead of ignoring them?

    I get it. Conspiracy theorists are blaming the wrong people for all the terrible stuff that's been going on.

    Fine. Who should they blame?

    You either know or you don't know. Which is it?

    Or is it easier to just thank god for the ignore button?


  • #4554
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,434 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    orubiru wrote: »
    How have I made your point?

    I asked you two questions and you answered none of them.

    OK so I'll cut it down to one question.

    Obviously you think the conspiracy forum dwellers are blaming the wrong people for the worlds ills. Who should they blame?

    I dont know, pick a target ? would it matter. Its not discussion based in fact. Its random musing supported by spurious argument and opinion.

    This whole thread appears to be down to the majority of people having it in for Trump. I mean he is just a good guy trying to good things for his people...


  • #4555
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    She is a fraud and I can not believe so many women allowed themselves to get conned by an Islamist who is NOT for equality of women and women's rights. It brings into question the intellectual capacity of modern feminism if they can be conned by this woman.
    The women on the march should be ashamed of themselves by associating themselves with her. The likes of Emmeline Pankhurst would be rolling in her grave if she saw women follow the likes of her.

    People marched for their own reasons for a cause they believed in. I doubt many of them even knew who was organising it or speaking at it and probably never would have if Trump supporters hadn't brought it up. It's like marching against water charges and then seeing a PBP person take to the stage to talk. You march for a cause, not for a person. I doubt many would have shown up if they'd been asked to join a march for some of the speakers who showed up.


  • #4556
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    listermint wrote: »
    I mean he is just a good guy trying to good things for his people...

    Can you try and give an example?


  • #4557
    BlinkingLights
    Closed Accounts Posts: 910 ✭✭✭BlinkingLights


    josip wrote: »
    "One researcher from Irish Genealogy has traced the Trump family line back to Germany, then England and finally, the President’s great great great great grandmother who left Tipperary as far back as the 1700s! "

    Thanks Manic. Thankfully there's very little detail in that article and I suspect it's just wishful thinking on the part of some like-minded souls down in Tipp.
    Irish Genealogical records become very sparse pre-1800 and almost impossible to cross-verify.
    If the link is that far back I think we're in the clear.
    Anyway, he's probably not the original Donald Trump but a Russian substitute like they did with Tito.

    He's also got ancestry in the Isle of Lewis, a lovely chilled out place with great people that couldn't be more non-Trumpy if it tried.

    That being said Mrs Thatcher is partly from Co. Kerry, but neither Kerry nor Thatcher rushed to claim that one.


  • #4558
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,434 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    Can you try and give an example?

    Woooosh...


  • #4559
    orubiru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭orubiru


    listermint wrote: »
    I dont know, pick a target ? would it matter. Its not discussion based in fact. Its random musing supported by spurious argument and opinion.

    This whole thread appears to be down to the majority of people having it in for Trump. I mean he is just a good guy trying to good things for his people...

    No. Trump is a stupid choice for President of the USA but he won the election and that's what they/we are stuck with.

    Anyone who thinks that Trump will make the world, or even just America, a better place is delusional but maybe the 60 million who voted for him will learn that lesson in time.

    Does he have good intentions? I don't know. Would things be better or worse under Hillary? I don't know.

    Now, you made a point that Conspiracy Nuts are blaming the wrong people for the worlds ills.

    I asked you "who should they blame"?

    Your response was "You've made my point."

    What? It doesn't make any sense, right? Am I missing something here?

    I'm not really even sure that you've answered my question or if you ever intend to answer it or if I have indeed made your point.

    What are you actually trying to say here? The conspiracy nuts are blaming the wrong people for the worlds problems and while you don't know who is to blame you definitely know who isn't to blame?


  • #4560
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    orubiru wrote: »
    Why not correct them instead of ignoring them?

    I get it. Conspiracy theorists are blaming the wrong people for all the terrible stuff that's been going on.

    Fine. Who should they blame?

    You either know or you don't know. Which is it?

    Or is it easier to just thank god for the ignore button?

    Hey if you have a problem with conspiracy theorists. You ask them


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  • #4561
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    She is a fraud and I can not believe so many women allowed themselves to get conned by an Islamist who is NOT for equality of women and women's rights. It brings into question the intellectual capacity of modern feminism if they can be conned by this woman.
    The women on the march should be ashamed of themselves by associating themselves with her. The likes of Emmeline Pankhurst would be rolling in her grave if she saw women follow the likes of her.

    People marched for their own reasons for a cause they believed in. I doubt many of them even knew who was organising it or speaking at it and probably never would have if Trump supporters hadn't brought it up. It's like marching against water charges and then seeing a PBP person take to the stage to talk. You march for a cause, not for a person. I doubt many would have shown up if they'd been asked to join a march for some of the speakers who showed up.
    A little bit embarrassing to be involved in a march lead by a person who believes in Sharia Law and thinks women not being allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia is not a big deal.


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