Operation transformation

Elemonator · 16-01-2017 05:12PM

Actually know someone who worked on the show funny enough. As previously said, if you are 16+ stone then 4 lbs is not a lot to lose. If you shave 500 calories off your diet everyday (which isn't a lot) and workout intensely, 4 lbs isn't a lot in general.

RayCon · 16-01-2017 05:44PM

Parchment wrote: »

A young girl (in her 20's?) crying her eyes out in a bra and hideous lycra shorts while being chastised by a doctor and Kathryn Thomas roaring away beside her in a ballgown.

Brilliantly summarized ... That's the show in a nutshell. Fcukin ludicrous

buck65 · 16-01-2017 05:45PM

It is an awful programme, if you have a relative that died recently all the better. Can we have the tears please and the uplifting music when the overweight person finally jogs 5k.
What I would be interested in is what are the previous contestants weighing these days, did they keep the stones off?
I doubt it.
Plus the ****ed that Arcade Fire song for good as well.

buck65 · 16-01-2017 05:47PM

Kathryn Thomas seems to lose weight every year and they keep bringing her back.

16-01-2017 05:47PM

I was listing to some doctor he is a professor of something or other they often have him on RTE radio/TV talking about being over weight cant think of his name, any way he said a half to one pound a week is a sustainable weight loss unfortunately that would be boring for Television. I don't mind the show but I have strong dislike of peoples personal circumstances being part of the program, it has some what of an element of car crash TV.

I am fascinated by things like the person who hates vegetables I can't understand that what way were they brought up.

PissFlapsDory · 16-01-2017 05:50PM

This prog needs just Joe Duffy. Or in some parts of Dub he's known "big fluffy". Wonder why.

RobertKK · 16-01-2017 06:07PM

mariaalice wrote: »

I was listing to some doctor he is a professor of something or other they often have him on RTE radio/TV talking about being over weight cant think of his name, any way he said a half to one pound a week is a sustainable weight loss unfortunately that would be boring for Television. I don't mind the show but I have strong dislike of people personal circumstances being part of the program, it has some what of an element of car crash TV.

I am fascinated by things like the person who hates vegetables I can't understand that what way were they brought up.

The parents must have been very weak as I suspect for most of us, we had no option but to eat vegetables as part of our dinners, home cooked and you would be looking forward to it.
Maybe the parents were bad cooks, but vegetables are so easy to cook, it has to be the fault of the parents.

Bambi985 · 16-01-2017 07:30PM

It's funny how the fatter we get in the western world, the deeper our obsession gets with weight loss programmes.

Most fat people I know are "on a diet". Most of the overweight women at work eat lettuce leaves at lunch time and rabble on and on about "juicing" and "detoxing" and the "meal replacement diet" etc. It's mad. Deprive your body of nutrients and you will binge like a mofo at the end of every single day. Try to lose a stone a month to reach some holy grail goal weight and you'll end up gaining it all back and then some, and inherit a food addiction along the way.

Sam Kade · 26-01-2017 08:27PM

Bambi985 wrote: »

It's funny how the fatter we get in the western world, the deeper our obsession gets with weight loss programmes.

Most fat people I know are "on a diet". Most of the overweight women at work eat lettuce leaves at lunch time and rabble on and on about "juicing" and "detoxing" and the "meal replacement diet" etc. It's mad. Deprive your body of nutrients and you will binge like a mofo at the end of every single day. Try to lose a stone a month to reach some holy grail goal weight and you'll end up gaining it all back and then some, and inherit a food addiction along the way.

I know a woman that has been going to weight watchers and constantly on diets since her early 30's, she's almost 60 now and still overweight. She does love her mountain of spuds on her plate for dinner though.

learn_more · 26-01-2017 08:37PM

Never watched this show before except for small snippets. Wondering if it's as as bad as ppl say.

So far Sean seems to be giving up cigarettes and changing his diet...at the same time. Erm. Dumb.

The Raptor · 26-01-2017 08:38PM

It's a meat free week on operation transformation. Since when is meat bad for you?

learn_more · 26-01-2017 08:45PM

The Raptor wrote: »

It's a meat free week on operation transformation. Since when is meat bad for you?

Probably the idea is to replace meet with fish rather than go full vegetarian but still it's a bit of a gimmick of a strategy.

Bambi985 · 26-01-2017 08:47PM

The Raptor wrote: »

It's a meat free week on operation transformation. Since when is meat bad for you?

I'm sure an angry gaggle of vegetarians will be along shortly to explain

farmerwifelet · 26-01-2017 08:53PM

I much preferred the "how long will you live?" programme. The person did a fitness/health test at the beginning and then the doctor walked them trough making small easily managed changes - getting involved in sport/activity you enjoyed and eating healthier. No mad changes, no lycra, public weigh ins or any of that stuff. They redid the fitness tests and measured the difference - most people did great and they revisited them and they were all keeping up the good work. The doc himself said if you don't enjoy the physical part you won't keep it up. there generally wasn't any sob stories or shouting and roaring. It was just normal people who had fallen into bad habits. Good TV.

RobertKK · 26-01-2017 08:54PM

It is usually eating too much red meat that is said to be bad for you, and to replace some of the red meat with white meat and fish.

Alf Veedersane · 26-01-2017 08:59PM

I'd nothing else, it will teach them how to be more creative with their food.

Meat-free Monday is pretty mainstream now and any crèche we looked at for the little one seemed to have one day where there wasn't meat.

It doesn't have to be a stealth attack from The Vegetarians.

learn_more · 26-01-2017 08:59PM

This show is much better than I though it would be. Does an excellent job of taking the piss out of the contestants and it's funnier than Ms Browns Boys.

The Raptor · 26-01-2017 09:00PM

RobertKK wrote: »

It is usually eating too much red meat that is said to be bad for you, and to replace some of the red meat with white meat and fish.

They didn't say what kind of meat they were to avoid. One of them had to replace his chicken. That's a bit too much, isn't it. Cutting all meat?

Alf Veedersane · 26-01-2017 09:01PM

The Raptor wrote: »

They didn't say what kind of meat they were to avoid. One of them had to replace his chicken. That's a bit too much, isn't it. Cutting all meat?

They're not advising to give them up. It can demonstrate flexibility in diets. You can still get all your calories, macronutrient and micronutrients without meat.

The Raptor · 26-01-2017 09:04PM

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

They're not advising to give them up. It can demonstrate flexibility in diets. You can still get all your calories, macronutrient and micronutrients without meat.

That's true. But a whole week without any meat?

Alf Veedersane · 26-01-2017 09:06PM

The Raptor wrote: »

That's true. But a whole week without any meat?

What's the big deal? It works out the same as one day of every week without meat across the show. Probably works out less than that.

neonsofa · 26-01-2017 09:22PM

So a few people here have mentioned that the drastic changes could slow down the metabolism, can someone explain at which point this would happen?
I've started eating fruit/nuts/yoghurt etc instead of bars/biscuits. Having soup/stew/slad for lunch instead of McDonald's/full brekkie roll etc. and then a snack (fruit) after if I'm still hungry. My dinner will be my only main meal. But I've gone from having a main meal at lunch time and dinner and snacking constantly, to the above and only snacking if genuinely hungry (as opposed to bored). I assumed this was a healthy approach but is too quick too soon an issue? Or is it more about the diet change and exercise? I'm all confused now

I don't watch the show sorry, just piggybacking on the thread!

Alf Veedersane · 26-01-2017 09:40PM

People with a lot of weight to lose can stand to have a bigger calorie deficit. Quite a few studies where there were some good results with people very overweight having a big enough deficit.

At some point your body will find it harder to lose weight bit if you're losing weight and keep doing so, then you're fine. There may come a point where it's harder and dropping calories further to lose lore weight is too hard. Some people take a diet break then where they let their body readjust to their new calorie needs, they maintain weight for a while, and then drop calories again and it's a bit easier to handle.

Different strategies but that's one.

Tl;dr if it's working for you, then keep at it until it isn't.

Sam Kade · 26-01-2017 09:41PM

learn_more wrote: »

This show is much better than I though it would be. Does an excellent job of taking the piss out of the contestants and it's funnier than Ms Browns Boys.

It's great comedy alright

especially when KT in her fancy frock gets all excited when the contestants loose a few pounds, you'd think at this stage they'd be gone metric.

murpho999 · 26-01-2017 09:50PM

The flack this show gets is unreal and I think the majority of people don't get it.

The show is not a diet show as many here say. The leaders are not on a diet as they often say, they are on a food plan.

This is a plan that they should follow and use for meals for the rest of their lives not just during the show. As a result they should lose weight easily.

Exercise is gradually introduced, it is not excessive. A few lunges with water bottles, and walking in compulsory high vis vest with the community with the idea of working their way up to a gentle 5k run.

There really is a major obesity problem in Ireland and many people find overweight to be the norm and slim to be skinny and unhealthy.

Portions sizes are massive and food quality poor and the show tries to educate people away from this.

I think their intentions are good and should be praised.

RobertKK · 26-01-2017 09:57PM

murpho999 wrote: »

The flax this show gets is unreal and I think the majority of people don't get it.

The show is not a diet show as many here say. The leaders are not on a diet as they often say, they are on a food plan.

This is a plan that they should follow and use for meals for the rest of their lives not just during the show. As a result they should lose weight easily.

Exercise is gradually introduced, it is not excessive. A few lunges with water bottles, and walking in compulsory high vis vest with the community with the idea of working their way up to a gentle 5k run.

There really is a major obesity problem in Ireland and many people find overweight to be the norm and slim to be skinny and unhealthy.

Portions sizes are massive and food quality poor and the show tries to educate people away from this.

I think their intentions are good and should be praised.

I think they should train with something heavier than water bottles.

The Raptor · 26-01-2017 10:01PM

murpho999 wrote: »

Exercise is gradually introduced, it is not excessive. A few lunges with water bottles, and walking in compulsory high vis vest with the community with the idea of working their way up to a gentle 5k run.

I have to pull you up on this. Having them wear fire safety gear and lugging a fire hose around the place is excessive. They're only three weeks in. It's far too much when they're the size that they are. They aren't fit to be doing that, not 3 weeks in.

PucaMama · 26-01-2017 10:15PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

22 years old and over 16 stone and she was eating chocolate and not sticking to the food plan, no sympathy at all for her.

It's ridiculous anyway, give them a food plan and tell them to exercise and don't see them again for a week.

Compare that with The Biggest Loser where there is 2 trainers who push the heavies in the gym until they feel like throwing up and the sweat is falling off them, they are watched throughout the whole process and the results are amazing.

No pity from you? No surprise there anyway.

Look at how you talk about people. Heavies. These are human beings battling the most common modern addiction there is. Sugar.

somesoldiers · 26-01-2017 10:31PM

RobertKK wrote: »

I think they should train with something heavier than water bottles.

The logic behind the water bottles is to show that people can exercise with everyday objects rather than having the excuse of not being able to afford weight sets etc. People are free to use whatever they are comfortable with. so Karl Henry said on some radio interview recently

learn_more · 27-01-2017 02:56AM

murpho999 wrote: »

The flax this show gets is unreal and I think the majority of people don't get it.

The show is not a diet show as many here say. The leaders are not on a diet as they often say, they are on a food plan.

This is a plan that they should follow and use for meals for the rest of their lives not just during the show. As a result they should lose weight easily.

Exercise is gradually introduced, it is not excessive. A few lunges with water bottles, and walking in compulsory high vis vest with the community with the idea of working their way up to a gentle 5k run.

There really is a major obesity problem in Ireland and many people find overweight to be the norm and slim to be skinny and unhealthy.

Portions sizes are massive and food quality poor and the show tries to educate people away from this.

I think their intentions are good and should be praised.

I can't see how anything in this show would inspire anyone to get healthy who knows nothing about how to do it because it's gives the impression that it takes some kind of stupendous monumental torturous effort to get fit. It would only put ppl off.

RTE have cookery shows on several times a week including on afternoon chat shows which does noting but give the impression that everyone is cooking delicious restaurant style food every day of the week and that you should too, as if it were a commendable hobby. Getting your mind off food is a great way to reduce food volume intake instead of becoming obsessed about what delicious new meal you can make next. So I don't really buy your good intentions remark.

This show to me is a comedy show. Quite good one for RTE too.

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