Child refugees -majority to be males aged 17???

22-01-2017 02:34PM

Mary63 wrote: »

If you take in one of those "teenagers" you could think for years that he was perfectly well integrated, he might even go to college and get a good qualification.Some of the Paris, Brussels and Berlin bombers were definitely special needs, they were duped into planting the haversacks with bombs.Some of them though had grown up in the West, had availed of millions of euros being spent on them including a third level education and yet they jumped at the chance to go to Syria so they could engage in mass rape of women and some very young teenage girls.

You will find the friends and neighbours of these people will say, sure he ws grand, he came to our christmas party or he lived beside me for years and helped me with the bins.This is all an act, its a pretend life until the time is right to commit mass murder.Its now a case of when we are going to be attacked here and not if.Its just a matter of whether it will be an attack at the National Concert hall or an attack at an outdoor event, it could even happen at the ST Patricks day parade.There are bollards now being erected in Europe where the public gather, you can bet there will be no bollards or no measures in place on O Connell street on March 17th this year, we are sitting ducks.

You so realise you're describing anyone that commits a shocking crime?
Lots of people couldn't believe Graham Dwyer murdered someone. People Culdnt believe that guy in cavan killed his wife and kids.
You're just racist Mary.

Mary63 · 22-01-2017 02:48PM

But if Graham Dwyer went to a priest and told him what he did the priest has to report the crime

The muslims drive trucks into innocent men, women and children, utter scumbag cowards that they are and then they go to their religious leaders who hide them in the mosques.

I think they are sexually frustrated myself, they can't stand the fact that educated women wouldn't wipe their shoes on them never mind buy those bird age outfits to walk around in, those outfits make me feel ill, I don't know how the women can even see where they are going.How can fifty percent of a population allow the other fifty per cent to dominate them like this, oh of course you deny them an education, stop them having a vote to change anything and then bring in laws that suit the men.

Some of the muslim terrorists who committed the atrocities were frustrated homoesexuals too.The one who killed all those people in Florida certainly was, his religious leaders told him being gay is a sin but he had attended the gay night club regularly.One of the Paris bombers had attended gay bars too, this angle should be explored while trying to find an excuse to understand these nut jobs.

I don't care what you think I am bubblypop, if you are living on an Island all on your own you bring whoever you want to live beside you.I don't want any part of Ireland to have a Molenbeek or those Paris districts where the Muslims have taken over.You need to open your eyes, these people have no respect for women and no respect for homosexuals, they hate white christians, they think we re infidels, they are the most racist people on the planet and they want to spread Islam all over the world.They are breeding a lot faster than the rest of us too so in the future they could be in a majority.The Jews are certainly going to be in a minority in the Middle East before very long and whatever you say about Israel its the only Middle east country that guarantees women and homosexual people full equal rights.

22-01-2017 03:03PM

Mary63 wrote: »

But if Graham Dwyer went to a priest and told him what he did the priest has to report the crime

The muslims drive trucks into innocent men, women and children, utter scumbag cowards that they are and then they go to their religious leaders who hide them in the mosques.

I think they are sexually frustrated myself, they can't stand the fact that educated women wouldn't wipe their shoes on them never mind buy those bird age outfits to walk around in, those outfits make me feel ill, I don't know how the women can even see where they are going.How can fifty percent of a population allow the other fifty per cent to dominate them like this, oh of course you deny them an education, stop them having a vote to change anything and then bring in laws that suit the men.

Some of the muslim terrorists who committed the atrocities were frustrated homoesexuals too.The one who killed all those people in Florida certainly was, his religious leaders told him being gay is a sin but he had attended the gay night club regularly.One of the Paris bombers had attended gay bars too, this angle should be explored while trying to find an excuse to understand these nut jobs.

I don't care what you think I am bubblypop, if you are living on an Island all on your own you bring whoever you want to live beside you.I don't want any part of Ireland to have a Molenbeek or those Paris districts where the Muslims have taken over.You need to open your eyes, these people have no respect for women and no respect for homosexuals, they hate white christians, they think we re infidels, they are the most racist people on the planet and they want to spread Islam all over the world.They are breeding a lot faster than the rest of us too so in the future they could be in a majority.The Jews are certainly going to be in a minority in the Middle East before very long and whatever you say about Israel its the only Middle east country that guarantees women and homosexual people full equal rights.

There's the proof!

Timberrrrrrrr · 22-01-2017 03:45PM

Mary63 wrote: »

But if Graham Dwyer went to a priest and told him what he did the priest has to report the crime

The muslims drive trucks into innocent men, women and children, utter scumbag cowards that they are and then they go to their religious leaders who hide them in the mosques.

I think they are sexually frustrated myself, they can't stand the fact that educated women wouldn't wipe their shoes on them never mind buy those bird age outfits to walk around in, those outfits make me feel ill, I don't know how the women can even see where they are going.How can fifty percent of a population allow the other fifty per cent to dominate them like this, oh of course you deny them an education, stop them having a vote to change anything and then bring in laws that suit the men.

Some of the muslim terrorists who committed the atrocities were frustrated homoesexuals too.The one who killed all those people in Florida certainly was, his religious leaders told him being gay is a sin but he had attended the gay night club regularly.One of the Paris bombers had attended gay bars too, this angle should be explored while trying to find an excuse to understand these nut jobs.

I don't care what you think I am bubblypop, if you are living on an Island all on your own you bring whoever you want to live beside you.I don't want any part of Ireland to have a Molenbeek or those Paris districts where the Muslims have taken over.You need to open your eyes, these people have no respect for women and no respect for homosexuals, they hate white christians, they think we re infidels, they are the most racist people on the planet and they want to spread Islam all over the world.They are breeding a lot faster than the rest of us too so in the future they could be in a majority.The Jews are certainly going to be in a minority in the Middle East before very long and whatever you say about Israel its the only Middle east country that guarantees women and homosexual people full equal rights.

Silly as this may sound to you but i have travelled extensively over the last 30 years and it saddens me to say that the most racist people i have ever come across were Irish.

Billmedley · 22-01-2017 03:53PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Silly as this may sound to you but i have travelled extensively over the last 30 years and it saddens me to say that the most racist people i have ever come across were Irish.

You obviously didn't travel very far so

Timberrrrrrrr · 22-01-2017 03:55PM

Billmedley wrote: »

You obviously didn't travel very far so

Australia
New Zealand
America
Spain
Sweden
Germany
Denmark
Portugal
Barbados
Iran
Iraq
UAE
Yemen
Cuba
Costa Rica
Mexico
UK
Canada
Switzerland
Monaco

Yeah not far at all :rolleyes:

Snake Plisken · 22-01-2017 04:45PM

bubblypop wrote: »

There's the proof!

Proof of what? That Mary made a great post with valid points?

Confused mum84 · 22-01-2017 10:51PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Silly as this may sound to you but i have travelled extensively over the last 30 years and it saddens me to say that the most racist people i have ever come across were Irish.

You listed a handful of middle eastern countries on that list . Is it safe to assume you visited there as an Irish man rather than an Irish woman ? Would your experience have been the same if you were a woman ? Presumably you'd have experienced an unmerciful level of sexism . Is that OK as long it's done to all women rather than to certain race's...

Also on the subject of race , is the racism to the point of execution that domestic servants from the philipenes face in the likes of Saudi & UAE ok? Are we Irish worse racists than this in your eyes ?

Have also heard from lots of ex pats working in UAE stories about hierarchy in terms of determining liability on dispute cases a car crash for example . No matter who is or who isn't blatently at fault it goes like this if crash between an emirate man & a emirate woman - the woman is at fault . Crash between an emirate & a foreigner - foreigner at fault . Crash between a professional foreigner & a domestic servant , the domestic servant is at fault
Wasn't aware that we Irish operated this kind of racial hierarchy

Confused mum84 · 22-01-2017 11:04PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Silly as this may sound to you but i have travelled extensively over the last 30 years and it saddens me to say that the most racist people i have ever come across were Irish.

Doubt this has even occurred to you as your so busy smugly labelling a whole nation (your own fellow countrymen & women btw) But your own comment is completely racist against Irish people , thus showing you to be racist

dissed doc · 22-01-2017 11:30PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Silly as this may sound to you but i have travelled extensively over the last 30 years and it saddens me to say that the most racist people i have ever come across were Irish.

That may bne true, but the brand of racism that irish people may doesn't extend to raping, murdering , etc., to expand irish culture into other societies, aggressively and without remorse.

Are you really comparing Islam-inspired gang rapes to an Irish pub?

We are asked to not judge all Muslims based on the actions of a few; likewise, I hope you are not judging all Irish by the actions of whoever you met on your "travels".

So if you can brand all the Irish as X, it is logical and fair, that someone else may brand all Muslims as Y.

22-01-2017 11:43PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Australia
New Zealand
America
Spain
Sweden
Germany
Denmark
Portugal
Barbados
Iran
Iraq
UAE
Yemen
Cuba
Costa Rica
Mexico
UK
Canada
Switzerland
Monaco

Yeah not far at all :rolleyes:

Just as a matter of interest, how many languages do you speak fluently?

Timberrrrrrrr · 22-01-2017 11:48PM

Confused mum84 wrote: »

You listed a handful of middle eastern countries on that list . Is it safe to assume you visited there as an Irish man rather than an Irish woman ? Would your experience have been the same if you were a woman ? Presumably you'd have experienced an unmerciful level of sexism . Is that OK as long it's done to all women rather than to certain race's...

Also on the subject of race , is the racism to the point of execution that domestic servants from the philipenes face in the likes of Saudi & UAE ok? Are we Irish worse racists than this in your eyes ?

Have also heard from lots of ex pats working in UAE stories about hierarchy in terms of determining liability on dispute cases a car crash for example . No matter who is or who isn't blatently at fault it goes like this if crash between an emirate man & a emirate woman - the woman is at fault . Crash between an emirate & a foreigner - foreigner at fault . Crash between a professional foreigner & a domestic servant , the domestic servant is at fault
Wasn't aware that we Irish operated this kind of racial hierarchy

i actually visited most of these places as a British male, never experienced any of the above nor heard of them in the decade or so i was in these countries

Timberrrrrrrr · 22-01-2017 11:49PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Just as a matter of interest, how many languages do you speak fluently?

not that it matters but English, Spanish, German and Swedish.

23-01-2017 12:14AM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

not that it matters but English, Spanish, German and Swedish.

So, no Spanish or Arabic (or local dialects)

That has to have been a bit of a disadvantage in understanding any casual conversations you have overheard.

Not that it matters that much. Your racist comments about the Irish people being racist were quite shocking.

gitzy16v · 23-01-2017 12:15AM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Silly as this may sound to you but i have travelled extensively over the last 30 years and it saddens me to say that the most racist people i have ever come across were Irish.

All of us????

Timberrrrrrrr · 23-01-2017 12:20AM

Deleted User wrote: »

So, no Spanish or Arabic (or local dialects)

That has to have been a bit of a disadvantage in understanding any casual conversations you have overheard.

Not that it matters that much. Your racist comments about the Irish people being racist were quite shocking.

you missed where i said SPANISH?

As for local dialect, if you had travelled much yourself you would know that many people speak English.

As for my comments on Irish people being racist, You may not like that observation but i find it to be true be never the less.

Timberrrrrrrr · 23-01-2017 12:21AM

gitzy16v wrote: »

All of us????

If i meant all then i would have said all, No not ALL irish people are racist no more tahn al Muslims want Sharia law or would slit your throat for having a beer.

23-01-2017 12:38AM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

you missed where i said SPANISH?

As for local dialect, if you had travelled much yourself you would know that many people speak English.

As for my comments on Irish people being racist, You may not like that observation but i find it to be true be never the less.

Whether or not you find it to be true is irrelevant.
It is a racist statement.

So, if you find your racist statements to be true - and feel free to express that racism - what exactly is your issue with people who make racist statements that they find to be true?

Timberrrrrrrr · 23-01-2017 12:42AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Whether or not you find it to be true is irrelevant.
It is a racist statement.

So, if you find your racist statements to be true - and feel free to express that racism - what exactly is your issue with people who make racist statements that they find to be true?

Explain how it is racist bearing in mind Irish does not = a race of people

gitzy16v · 23-01-2017 12:43AM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Explain how it is racist bearing in mind Irish does not = a race of people

Neither does Muslim

Timberrrrrrrr · 23-01-2017 12:45AM

gitzy16v wrote: »

Neither does Muslim

Never said they were a race

gitzy16v · 23-01-2017 12:48AM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Never said they were a race

I know...
Just making sure myself and yourself are not branded racists when we generalise a whole society:)

Timberrrrrrrr · 23-01-2017 12:50AM

gitzy16v wrote: »

I know...
Just making sure myself and yourself are not branded racists when we generalise a whole society:)

just giving my personal observation/experience on the matter

gitzy16v · 23-01-2017 01:00AM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

just giving my personal observation/experience on the matter

Cool,no problem with that...
My experience with people from that region(ive no idea if muslim or not)is not great.
Ive spent most of my interactions with them either trying not to drive over them on the way into Calais or trying not to stop so the bastard5 dont try pull me out of my truck.
Oh and once in clonskegh mosque being escorted out because I interrupted prayer time trying to deliver a fridge about 13 years ago I thought it funny at the time but this last 5 years has shown me why they did.
Im sorry but Ive a family to provide for and that usurps any praying to anybody.
Just for equality,Ive also walked straight into a catholic church behind the altar etc etc to find the priest I had a delivery for,but didnt get the same over-reaction.

Ive also got to add the Muslim lad in the STH circular road.
Delivered floor tiles for about 2 months to him,once I arrived during prayer,he very politely asked could I deliver 30mins later because of prayer,I laughed,he laughed and asked me could I help because its actually important to him.
Lovely bloke,The next week I did what he asked and lo and behold two friendly blokes chatted and laughed,I slagged him about his ridiculous prayer time and he slagged me about being Irish and disowning the church,thanked me for respecting his wishes and my day and his day were unaffected from there on in.
My issues with these lads is based solely on personal experience,
Clonskeagh:ignorant,intolerant,abusive and aggresive,I was only trying to do my job.
Sth Circular:polite,accepting,explained why I was problem,treated me with dignity and respect.

Calais boys:well they are nuts,crowding motorways,throwing stuff at truck,blocking roads,ripping curtains to get in the trailer,trying to open the door smash the window....they dont deserve our charity..simple as.

Widdershins · 23-01-2017 01:40AM

gitzy16v wrote: »

Calais boys:well they are nuts,crowding motorways,throwing stuff at truck,blocking roads,ripping curtains to get in the trailer,trying to open the door smash the window....they dont deserve our charity..simple as.

Why are we giving it to them. I think it's crazy. They don't even have to be there in the first place.

If people are to be relocated to Ireland surely the moral imperative is the relocate those most vulnerable and in need and *genuine* ?

No matter what anyone thinks of Islam, isn't this basic stuff?

gitzy16v · 23-01-2017 01:48AM

Widdershins wrote: »

Why are we giving it to them. I think it's crazy. They don't even have to be there in the first place.

If people are to be relocated to Ireland surely the moral imperative is the relocate those most vulnerable and in need and *genuine* ?

No matter what anyone thinks of Islam, isn't this basic stuff?

Ive no idea.
In my mind its f-all to do with religion,Im sick of running the gauntlet of hooligans in Calais.
And then I hear we are taking them in and helping them...fcuk no,2 smashed windscreens,countless replaced mirrors and every trailer ripped and now they get rewarded?????

In bold: Why cant anybody see there are far more deserving and needing of our charity than the Calais migrants...there was a car bomb set off in a Syrian refugee camp in Jordan today,surely we need to help those first.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/01/deadly-bomb-blast-hits-syria-rakban-refugee-camp-170121130211057.html

Widdershins · 23-01-2017 02:02AM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

i actually visited most of these places as a British male, never experienced any of the above nor heard of them in the decade or so i was in these countries

Pfffffft. A British anti - Irish man. Quelle surprise

Brian? · 23-01-2017 07:28AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Whether or not you find it to be true is irrelevant.
It is a racist statement.

So, if you find your racist statements to be true - and feel free to express that racism - what exactly is your issue with people who make racist statements that they find to be true?

"The funniest people I ever met were German."

"German people are very funny."

Do you see the difference between those 2 statements? The first is a comment on individuals and the 2nd is a comment on Germans as a whole.

What he said wasn't racist in any way. If he'd said " Irish people are very racist" , that would be a whole other story.

Some of the most racist people I've ever met were Irish too. I assume that's because I meet a lot of Irish people though.

Timberrrrrrrr · 23-01-2017 07:58AM

Widdershins wrote: »

Pfffffft. A British anti - Irish man. Quelle surprise

Erm

I lived in Ireland for over 30 years, have Irish children, friends, family. Not anti Irish just not afraid to speak my mind.

Mary63 · 23-01-2017 09:46AM

Its just as well you are no longer living in the UK Timberrrr, you wouldn't be able to cope with how"racist"your fellow countrymen were.They voted to leave the EU mostly because of immigration, they saw the prospect of Turkey with its fifty million muslims entering the UK and the British people pulled up the drawbridge.Now I felt very happy thinking the British foreign office might mind us Irish against the terrorists but if Enda Kenny isn't nice to Theresa May that won't be happening.The British foreign office and the counter intelligence agencies have foiled many terrorists threats that the general public don't know about and we Irish are in their debt.

We don't know how Britain leaving the EU will affect us but its very worrying.For a start we will no longer be able to avail of cross border treatment, and this includes orthodontic treatment for teenagers.Our young people if going to study in the UK will no longer be eligible for subsidies, this means bearing the full cost of third level education.This has all resulted from a Middle East problem that has nothing to do with us.There is as much chance of me settling in happily to a life in Kuwait as there is a muslim from Pakistan settling in Ballaghaderreen.

Total blinkered we are all one happy family stuff.

Glad as a man you could travel in safety wherever you went Timberrr, a young woman with Downs syndrome couldn't even go for a jog with her mother without being imprisoned and raped by a pakistani living in Dublin.He had been accosting Irish women on the streets before this poor victim crossed his path.How did he get into this country and how many more like him are here too.I hope he can be deported out of this country but we will have the Civil liberties brigade talking about his human rights and the free legal aid board will be called on to provide legal aid to him.

Child refugees -majority to be males aged 17???

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