Dairy chit chat II

GrasstoMilk · 19-01-2017 08:25PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Have you put them at the low point of the pen? Calves seem to always have a knack of causing leaks at least if it's at the low point it won't saturate the pen. Getting brackets made up here to hand the troughs on the gates so I can move them.up if needs be

At the back. Had thought about what your saying but haven't the time this year to rig them for front of pen. Will move next year.
I'll run a length of steel pipe down over the pipe and connection. Should stop them messing about with them

stagg88 · 20-01-2017 09:19AM

Lads I know this is a bit off topic. But I'm grant approved under tams II and I'm ready to pull the trigger on a new parlor. I had my steel man down pricing putting up the shed for the parlor and he rang me back during the week saying that he has to be C certified for putting up the shed for grants. He said he's not and doesn't know any locals that are. I don't know what this C certified is or if we're even calling it the right name. he was going doing some digging to find out are there any ways around it. Has any one come across this under the latest grant scheme and if so can they shine any light on it?

stanflt · 20-01-2017 09:28AM

stagg88 wrote: »

Lads I know this is a bit off topic. But I'm grant approved under tams II and I'm ready to pull the trigger on a new parlor. I had my steel man down pricing putting up the shed for the parlor and he rang me back during the week saying that he has to be C certified for putting up the shed for grants. He said he's not and doesn't know any locals that are. I don't know what this C certified is or if we're even calling it the right name. he was going doing some digging to find out are there any ways around it. Has any one come across this under the latest grant scheme and if so can they shine any light on it?

C certified is just tax compliant and fully insured

RightTurnClyde · 20-01-2017 09:34AM

stagg88 wrote: »

Lads I know this is a bit off topic. But I'm grant approved under tams II and I'm ready to pull the trigger on a new parlor. I had my steel man down pricing putting up the shed for the parlor and he rang me back during the week saying that he has to be C certified for putting up the shed for grants. He said he's not and doesn't know any locals that are. I don't know what this C certified is or if we're even calling it the right name. he was going doing some digging to find out are there any ways around it. Has any one come across this under the latest grant scheme and if so can they shine any light on it?

Is it CE certified he's talking about?, all steelwork is supposed to be CE stamped now, grant or not. Buildings put up now without CE stamping may have issues with insurance down the road.
( its to do away with the amateur guy fabricating buildings )

stagg88 · 20-01-2017 12:45PM

Te finally got through to the Dept of ag. Its CE marked steel and he has to be a qualified welder.
Thanks

Keepgrowing · 20-01-2017 04:39PM

Milk powder price rise of €100/tonne imminent.

Just a heads up

GrasstoMilk · 20-01-2017 04:41PM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Milk powder price rise of €100/tonne imminent.

Just a heads up

Have bought an acidifier here. Getting the old milk tank going and going to see if I can store that excess transition milk that usually gets thrown away.
If it doesn't work it's not the end of the world. It'll be going into the slurry tank then any way.
Might get a few more weeks off whole milk

RightTurnClyde · 20-01-2017 05:04PM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Milk powder price rise of €100/tonne imminent.

Just a heads up

Mother fcukers

Keepgrowing · 20-01-2017 05:09PM

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

Mother fcukers

Stop bitchin and fookin order it if required

mahoney_j · 20-01-2017 06:53PM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Milk powder price rise of €100/tonne imminent.

Just a heads up

They can try ,we can haggle .

RightTurnClyde · 20-01-2017 07:41PM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Stop bitchin and fookin order it if required

No, I use whole milk for the calves, it was just a general observation.

Keepgrowing · 20-01-2017 07:45PM

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

No, I use whole milk for the calves, it was just a general observation.

We go to CMR as soon after birth as possible so we bought a good bit today

mahoney_j · 20-01-2017 08:34PM

Keepgrowing wrote: »

We go to CMR as soon after birth as possible so we bought a good bit today

Cmr????

Keepgrowing · 20-01-2017 09:15PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

Cmr????

Calf milk replacer

kevthegaff · 20-01-2017 10:15PM

Bloody abbreviations

mf240 · 20-01-2017 10:27PM

Suppose they keep one eye on milk price and then decide what they can get away with. Fertilizer is going up for the same reason.

Timmaay · 21-01-2017 12:47PM

mf240 wrote: »

My 79yr old calf reared has a similar grudge against it ha

Signpost · 21-01-2017 01:04PM

Used to have a contact for doing antibiotic samples on milk so I generally tend to go test all the cows after calving before they go in the tank but alas the dream is over.
Was thinking of buying this to do the testing myself - http://www.dsm.com/markets/foodandbeverages/en_US/products/tests/delvotest.html but came across these much cheaper tests on Magenta http://www.magentadirect.ie/ANTIBIOTIC-MILK-SNAP-TEST?search=antibiotic

Anyone ever used them before and know how reliable they are?

alps · 21-01-2017 01:26PM

Signpost wrote: »

Used to have a contact for doing antibiotic samples on milk so I generally tend to go test all the cows after calving before they go in the tank but alas the dream is over.
Was thinking of buying this to do the testing myself - http://www.dsm.com/markets/foodandbeverages/en_US/products/tests/delvotest.html but came across these much cheaper tests on Magenta http://www.magentadirect.ie/ANTIBIOTIC-MILK-SNAP-TEST?search=antibiotic

Anyone ever used them before and know how reliable they are?

The delvotest is the industry standard, and is what your milk is tested with by your milk purchaser. The snap test does not cover either as stringently or as complete as the devotes, but my milk manager does not know of any on farm snap test that subsequently failed the delvotest.

I do think you are extreme in testing every cow, and if nervous maybe testing each tank before collection would suffice.

If you are going to continue testing each cow, I would suggest that if the individual cow passes the snap test that there is no chance of the tank failing the delvotest....

Special note....you don't know my name or where I live....

Buford T. Justice XIX · 21-01-2017 01:28PM

Signpost wrote: »

Used to have a contact for doing antibiotic samples on milk so I generally tend to go test all the cows after calving before they go in the tank but alas the dream is over.
Was thinking of buying this to do the testing myself - http://www.dsm.com/markets/foodandbeverages/en_US/products/tests/delvotest.html but came across these much cheaper tests on Magenta http://www.magentadirect.ie/ANTIBIOTIC-MILK-SNAP-TEST?search=antibiotic

Anyone ever used them before and know how reliable they are?

I've used the snap test before and I find it good, even just for peace of mind if I leave milk up a milking or two early. Just after getting 20 of them for the spring.

orm0nd · 21-01-2017 02:12PM

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

Not what you want to hear, but straight out of The parlour at the moment is a hard sell. They want them with a cover on them and dried up. If a dealer buys them now, they'll be going into a shed so that's why they want them soaked up. In a months time they'd be buying them for grass.
Lean cows are just about making their weight, with a cover on them €150+ with their weight ( 28 went todAy, 30 days dry, average 550kgs, €700)

sent a group to the factory last week, (dry since early Nov.) with the 14c/ltr top up (if and when it comes) they certainly paid their way.

have more not finished on meal since new year's day, had a look at the mart & reckon they'd lose big time by showing

upping the meal and for the hook in 6 weeks

freedominacup · 21-01-2017 02:19PM

Cows out, maiden heifers out, freedom heading for Thomond. G'wan Munster.

Signpost · 21-01-2017 04:48PM

alps wrote: »

I do think you are extreme in testing every cow, and if nervous maybe testing each tank before collection would suffice.

Test every cow before they go into the tank, before that they go into the calf pot! Would see it wasteful testing the tank if it was one cow done the damage.

alps wrote: »

Special note....you don't know my name or where I live....

In the circumstances, I would do a Taken on it!

White Clover · 21-01-2017 05:37PM

The snap test does not detect all strains of antibiotics. What could end up happening is the milk passes the snap test on the lorry and be sent for processing. By the time the delvo test is complete (think it's either 3 or 5 days?) the milk has been through the plant.
It would not be nice to be getting a call then to be told your milk has failed the delvo test....

Edit: Snap test should read lorry (charm) test

Keepgrowing · 21-01-2017 06:46PM

Use Charm test here. I had Delvo and it was too slow. Charm is the test the lorry has so that's why we use it.

Every cow gets tested post calving and won't go to tank unless clear. When calving is at peak the colostrum tank is tested minus the latest calved cows ie 1-2 days calved

Edit to say it's a 3 minute test

mahoney_j · 21-01-2017 11:35PM

orm0nd wrote: »

sent a group to the factory last week, (dry since early Nov.) with the 14c/ltr top up (if and when it comes) they certainly paid their way.

have more not finished on meal since new year's day, had a look at the mart & reckon they'd lose big time by showing

upping the meal and for the hook in 6 weeks

My 2 heaviest culls weighing 775 and 795 came into 1105 and 1135 last week in mart ,what would they of made in factory ??.both were fleshy but could of easily carried another 100 kg.these are dry since 23/12 and were practically starved for 10 days on straw ad lib and 4/5 kg silage no meal .was tempted to feed them all to slaughter but said fook it as I've sent nothing to factory for years bar a cow with cancer of eye and thought I'd be pure shafted

simx · 21-01-2017 11:57PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

My 2 heaviest culls weighing 775 and 795 came into 1105 and 1135 last week in mart ,what would they of made in factory ??.both were fleshy but could of easily carried another 100 kg

Wouldn't of made anymore I reckon, some of them agents can get maybe 10c:kg more for heavy cows, reckon you did well

kowtow · 22-01-2017 12:20AM

anyone with dairymaster scrapers know if the little proximity switches can be easily got, preferably near Cork and without going down to Dairymaster?

bought a second hand set of scrapers finally, managed to fit them and figure them out and can run them more or less but two of the microswitches are shot - one in the parking sensor and one on the ram position sensor (not sure if they are the same switches wired the opposite way or different switches..)

Could also do with tighter tongues or whatever wear parts are in the reversing mechanism...

On second thoughts maybe worth a drive down to causeway and beg a manual off them while I am there... ?? ..

mahoney_j · 22-01-2017 12:23AM

kowtow wrote: »

anyone with dairymaster scrapers know if the little proximity switches can be easily got, preferably near Cork and without going down to Dairymaster?

bought a second hand set of scrapers finally, managed to fit them and figure them out and can run them more or less but two of the microswitches are shot - one in the parking sensor and one on the ram position sensor (not sure if they are the same switches wired the opposite way or different switches..)

Could also do with tighter tongues or whatever wear parts are in the reversing mechanism...

On second thoughts maybe worth a drive down to causeway and beg a manual off them while I am there... ?? ..

Did u try dr google ,amazing what he can throw up!!

Mooooo · 22-01-2017 12:48AM

kowtow wrote: »

anyone with dairymaster scrapers know if the little proximity switches can be easily got, preferably near Cork and without going down to Dairymaster?

bought a second hand set of scrapers finally, managed to fit them and figure them out and can run them more or less but two of the microswitches are shot - one in the parking sensor and one on the ram position sensor (not sure if they are the same switches wired the opposite way or different switches..)

Could also do with tighter tongues or whatever wear parts are in the reversing mechanism...

On second thoughts maybe worth a drive down to causeway and beg a manual off them while I am there... ?? ..

Did you try a local service man? I'll get the number of our fella 2moro and send it on, our old fella retired so have new lads now, are sound enough but they should have those in the vans altho they may still charge factory prices. Could talk to them about the scrapers as well. Alternatively if you ring dairymaster they'll send what you need down to you

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