Dairy chit chat II

whelan2

Keepgrowing wrote: »

DM me your contractor contact details. Got quoted 3,500 for 450m of sheep with 2 barb and an additional 850 for single strand electric inside this.

I declined, will do ourselves. It's fencing someone else's stock out of our farm which is what pisses me off most.

We buy all the materials here and the contractor does the rest . Do most contractors supply the materials?

visatorro

whelan2 wrote: »

We buy all the materials here and the contractor does the rest . Do most contractors supply the materials?

I had to buy anyway. Posts sat in yard for six months. Contractor had problems tbf.
Bought locally, a little bit dearer but flexible with credit and good quality. Bought Polish posts ten years ago that would last forever, all need replacing now.

Timmaay

Keepgrowing wrote: »

DM me your contractor contact details. Got quoted 3,500 for 450m of sheep with 2 barb and an additional 850 for single strand electric inside this.

I declined, will do ourselves. It's fencing someone else's stock out of our farm which is what pisses me off most.

I'm supplying all the materials, contractor said he'll need about 300e/day, 2 of them, including a tractor and stake driver.

visatorro

Timmaay wrote: »

I'm supplying all the materials, contractor said he'll need about 300e/day, 2 of them, including a tractor and stake driver.

Nothing wrong with that really. You wouldn't do it yourself as quick as them either.

farmerjj

Fencing would be one of my favourite jobs on the farm, would be the last job i,d get someone to do, prefer to get someone in to spread slurry or the likes of that.

White Clover

Timmaay wrote: »

I've got about 4km of electric fencing to be put in next week. Will set me back about 2k. One of them jobs I should have done 4 years ago!

Creosote posts Timmaay?

rushvalley

What do ye make of this ?

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1198102836943606&id=156675414419692

yewtree

I was just looking on Done deal and the entire Pallaskenry agricultural college dairy herd is being sold. Anyone know what that is about, seems odd that an agricultural college would be getting out of milk.

mahoney_j

yewtree wrote: »

I was just looking on Done deal and the entire Pallaskenry agricultural college dairy herd is being sold. Anyone know what that is about, seems odd that an agricultural college would be getting out of milk.

Changing system i think ,might go for a look seen catalogue some nice stock in that bunch

Keepgrowing

mahoney_j wrote: »

Changing system i think ,might go for a look seen catalogue some nice stock in that bunch

Are they changing cow type or getting out?

Is the xbred revolution spreading? There won't be enough Xbreds in the country shortly

mahoney_j

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Are they changing cow type or getting out?

Is the xbred revolution spreading? There won't be enough Xbreds in the country shortly

Christ no,dont think there going to that extreme !!!!,moving from traditional high yielding hol to grass based hi ebi hol or so I was told today by a local liquid supplier/ihfa buff who also told me they were mad destroying years of quality breeding !!!

yewtree

mahoney_j wrote: »

Christ no,dont think there going to that extreme !!!!,moving from traditional high yielding hol to grass based hi ebi hol or so I was told today by a local liquid supplier/ihfa buff who also told me they were mad destroying years of quality breeding !!!

That makes more sense than them getting out entirely.
Production isn't huge for that type of cow, 7500 kg, they must have very poor fertility if they are taking the nuclear option.

mf240

Going by the add they are a compact spring calving herd so that doesn't tally with fertility problems .

mf240

yewtree wrote: »

That makes more sense than them getting out entirely.
Production isn't huge for that type of cow, 7500 kg, they must have very poor fertility if they are taking the nuclear option.

The nuclear option would be an ifor Williams load of jersey bulls let out with cows on first of may.

yewtree

mf240 wrote: »

Going by the add they are a compact spring calving herd so that doesn't tally with fertility problems .

I know nothing about the herd, never been on the farm. I was only guessing, (I could be totally wrong) as the yield isn't huge and could be achieved on a grass based system why would they sell them if they are calving compactly.

mf240

yewtree wrote: »

I know nothing about the herd, never been on the farm. I was only guessing, (I could be totally wrong) as the yield isn't huge and could be achieved on a grass based system why would they sell them if they are calving compactly.

Don't know the herd either was just wondering.

Maybe there just getting out .

GrasstoMilk

mahoney_j wrote: »

Christ no,dont think there going to that extreme !!!!,moving from traditional high yielding hol to grass based hi ebi hol or so I was told today by a local liquid supplier/ihfa buff who also told me they were mad destroying years of quality breeding !!!

I was nearly sure they had gone the crossbred route already, There was a new farm manager employed there a while back and calving was all over the place at the time and they went crossbred - but that must have been a different colllege now that I seen that add

GrasstoMilk

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

I was nearly sure they had gone the crossbred route already, There was a new farm manager employed there a while back and calving was all over the place at the time and they went crossbred - but that must have been a different colllege now that I seen that add

They have gone crossbred. Started milking them last year

mahoney_j

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

They have gone crossbred. Started milking them last year

Could and probably are right ,mine was only second hand info ,add was misleading in saying compact spring calving herd and then offering maidens born beteween ocrober 15 and April 16 ....

whelan2

mahoney_j wrote: »

Could and probably are right ,mine was only second hand info ,add was misleading in saying compact spring calving herd and then offering maidens born beteween ocrober 15 and April 16 ....

Sure that's compact to some people

degetme

Lads would ye spread urea this week with ground conditions okay and no big frost forecast? What are soil temps at the moment?

farmerjj

degetme wrote: »

Lads would ye spread urea this week with ground conditions okay and no big frost forecast? What are soil temps at the moment?

Is it not meant to be v cold for the weekend,thats what the forecast was last night

GrasstoMilk

farmerjj wrote: »

Is it not meant to be v cold for the weekend,thats what the forecast was last night

Air temps dropping to 0 on Friday and Monday.
That's what my YR.NO says any way.

I'm going to go today I think. It'll be in the plant by Wednesday and it'll start work.

Soil temps are diff to air temps. Takes a long prolonged cold spell to drop them. There ranging for 7-8 here for the last week

Mooooo

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Air temps dropping to 0 on Friday and Monday.
That's what my YR.NO says any way.

I'm going to go today I think. It'll be in the plant by Wednesday and it'll start work.

Soil temps are diff to air temps. Takes a long prolonged cold spell to drop them. There ranging for 7-8 here for the last week

Is it not 5days before urea becomes available to plant?

Keepgrowing

degetme wrote: »

Lads would ye spread urea this week with ground conditions okay and no big frost forecast? What are soil temps at the moment?

Spreading since day light here. Ground conditions excellent. Soil temps are good

darragh_haven

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Spreading since day light here. Ground conditions excellent. Soil temps are good

Jesus, west kerry is relatively balmy. As im working, My dad is going with between 23 and 46 units on about 60% of the farm tomorrow. Good temps on the coast here in West cork

ArKl0w

Mooooo wrote: »

Is it not 5days before urea becomes available to plant?

Probably more than 5 days as there's likely to be no rain just the dew to wash it down for the next week or 10 days so it could be a fortnight or three weeks before it's fully effective
No harm in that time table at all as long as we don't get deluges next month and no cows can go out
A weeks heavy rain at this time of year and ground would be in shoite for a lot of people

I think urea is well able for frost,Can isn't
Any frost will be light enough anyway
Certainly as it stands the risk of getting the kind of weather on the continent has abated
I just hope we don't get a freezing march and April,that's when winter more often than not lately arrived in Ireland,an abominable nuisance

whelan2

Have a heifer in a group with the bull. Yesterday she had a few big clots o f fresh blood on her tail. None yesterday evening but a few again this morning. Its not cleanings. Anyone see this before?

simx

Was at dairy sale in kk today good enough trade I thought compared to back end, bought two first calvers calved a month av €1350 they're 3 yo you'd wonder at some lads

Timmaay

simx wrote: »

Was at dairy sale in kk today good enough trade I thought compared to back end, bought two first calvers calved a month av €1350 they're 3 yo you'd wonder at some lads

Any xbred/br fr heifers sold, what sort of money?