The Jimbo Slice memorial thread, feat Nate Dogg - The new Off Topic thread

Alf Veedersane · 19-01-2017 11:25pm

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

There was a story going around sligo last week and I was a bit skeptical as I only heard the story off people from a different gym.
Today a got the full story from a guy that actually trains there:
A pretty strong guy was doing calf raises on a step in a Smith machine with a shedload of weight on. The step flips, he falls and the bar comes down on his neck.
Currently he's in a wheelchair unable to walk

There's a guy in the gym that's an accident waiting to happen. Hanging upside down on the bar the TRX straps used be suspended from...doing something that would look like lateral raises. If he wasn't hanging upside down.

Hangs the dumbbells on the bar as well between sets of crazy.

I think he might punch himself in the face if he did fall though.

laserlad2010 · 19-01-2017 11:42pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

There's a guy in the gym that's an accident waiting to happen. Hanging upside down on the bar the TRX straps used be suspended from...doing something that would look like lateral raises. If he wasn't hanging upside down.

Hangs the dumbbells on the bar as well between sets of crazy.

I think he might punch himself in the face if he did fall though.

Wait... What??

Which way are the dumbbells going??

Alf Veedersane · 19-01-2017 11:49pm

laserlad2010 wrote: »

Wait... What??

Which way are the dumbbells going??

If you were hanging upside down and looking at him....and unaware that you were both upside down...it would look like he's doing lateral raises.

Except he's hanging upside down.

Tigger · 20-01-2017 12:19am

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

There was a story going around sligo last week and I was a bit skeptical as I only heard the story off people from a different gym.
Today a got the full story from a guy that actually trains there:
A pretty strong guy was doing calf raises on a step in a Smith machine with a shedload of weight on. The step flips, he falls and the bar comes down on his neck.
Currently he's in a wheelchair unable to walk

I live in Sligo where was that ? Cleveragh ?
Does a smith not stop the bar a few feet up ?

Brian? · 20-01-2017 12:23am

Tigger wrote: »

Does a smith not stop area feet up ?

Are there words missing from this sentence?

Tigger · 20-01-2017 12:28am

Brian? wrote: »

Are there words missing from this sentence?

Sorry I find it hard to post properly
Does a smith machine not have a minimum height it can drop the bar to
I thought that it has stops a few feet from the ground

Mellor · 20-01-2017 3:09am

RoryW wrote: »

Perhaps a poll of forum members should be held as to whether the ban should be reversed or time limited given his overwhelming helpful posts ?

Her was banned by the CMods/Admins, not the forum mods. It's essentially nothing to do with the Fitness forum.

If he had of raised the issue in the resolution section (which he still has accerss to) I'd imagine he'd have been reinstated. I'd also imagine the Mods would give their approval if asked.
But I also imagine that Hanley hasn't bothered to appeal, and is in no hurry to. Which is a shame.

Brian? · 20-01-2017 6:12am

bluewolf wrote: »

Did I mention I actually went and ordered them ...
Waiting for them to arrive

I found my poncho. I bought it from a Native American lady in Northern Arizona, she may have been Navajo. Do you think it's acceptable gym attire?

I wonder if I'll make it into the hoodies thread if I start wearing it to the gym.

Alf Veedersane · 20-01-2017 8:35am

Brian? wrote: »

I found my poncho. I bought it from a Native American lady in Northern Arizona, she may have been Navajo. Do you think it's acceptable gym attire?

I wonder if I'll make it into the hoodies thread if I start wearing it to the gym.

It's nice that you don't see a throw with a hole in it...but a poncho.

deadlybuzzman · 20-01-2017 8:37am

Tigger wrote: »

Sorry I find it hard to post properly
Does a smith machine not have a minimum height it can drop the bar to
I thought that it has stops a few feet from the ground

I was told when he fell he got pinned between the step and the bar. I got the impression this guy was using alot of weight so even just that bar coming down on you as you fall weird would be enough.
I seen it happen in a different gym years ago when a guy had 4 or 5 plates each side, the guy was OK but it was scary to hear a crash, turn around and see a guy all folded up with the bar on his neck
Yet again Smith machines showing they're only good for hanging your hoodie on!

Alf Veedersane · 20-01-2017 9:03am

You can get Adipowers for €105 and Powerlift 2s for €54 on the Adidas specialty sports site!

Not all sizes but might suit someone.

Brian? · 20-01-2017 9:38am

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

It's nice that you don't see a throw with a hole in it...but a poncho.

Dont diss my poncho man. A possibly. Navajo woman spent ages on that. At least it doesn't have a hood.

I think she was actually from the Gila tribe.

Alf Veedersane · 20-01-2017 9:46am

Brian? wrote: »

Dont diss my poncho man. A possibly. Navajo woman spent ages on that. At least it doesn't have a hood.

I think she was actually from the Gila tribe.

I hope she gave you a discount for it being a throw from seconds.

whippet · 20-01-2017 9:53am

laserlad2010 wrote: »

Yeah I'm doing the single lifts as a first comp before the nationals in March.

Ive another 800g to lose in 24 hours before weigh in to make the 100kg class. Hoping to PR in the deadlift but I'm nervous as f**k cos I'm lifting baby weights compared to some of the lads.

That being said, I'm a genuine AIPO lifter so I shouldn't compare like with like

you'll enjoy the single lifts ... not as much pressure or fatiguing as a full meet and gives a great indication as to what is involved in competing.

Don't worry about your numbers or how much others are lifting ... the vast majority are there to break their own PBs and only a handful can realistically aim for a win. Everyone gets the same respect, time and encouragement regardless of what weight is on the bar.

One bit of advice i'd give being a first meet would be to get comfortable when you get there, know your warm up sets and stick to them. Don't feel that you are getting in the way of anyone else when you want to warm up. If your next warm up weight is 120kg and there is 200+ on the bar that you are warming up on .. just take your turn and strip the bar .. you are entitled to warm up how you want to.

Know your opener and know that you'd' lift it in your sleep .. I good strong first lift of the day goes a huge way to making you confident and relaxed.

It will be interesting to see how the AIPO section pans out .. i'm also a genuine AIPO lifter and will be in that category in March.

Interestingly ... a few people I train with who I assumed were going to enter AIPO have entered IPO for the nationals .. so deduce from that what you will.

It would be a real shame if the AIPO section was abused.

Alf Veedersane · 20-01-2017 9:58am

whippet wrote: »

you'll enjoy the single lifts ... not as much pressure or fatiguing as a full meet and gives a great indication as to what is involved in competing.

Don't worry about your numbers or how much others are lifting ... the vast majority are there to break their own PBs and only a handful can realistically aim for a win. Everyone gets the same respect, time and encouragement regardless of what weight is on the bar.

One bit of advice i'd give being a first meet would be to get comfortable when you get there, know your warm up sets and stick to them. Don't feel that you are getting in the way of anyone else when you want to warm up. If your next warm up weight is 120kg and there is 200+ on the bar that you are warming up on .. just take your turn and strip the bar .. you are entitled to warm up how you want to.

Know your opener and know that you'd' lift it in your sleep .. I good strong first lift of the day goes a huge way to making you confident and relaxed.

Some great advice there.

I've been reminded to just not let my warm up be thrown out by not wanting to change what's on the bar and to just stick to my warm-up plan. So I've written down my warm up routine for each.

Brian? · 20-01-2017 10:38am

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I hope she gave you a discount for it being a throw from seconds.

Every throw is an unfinished poncho, as me aul granny used to say.

Alf Veedersane · 20-01-2017 10:45am

Brian? wrote: »

Every throw is an unfinished poncho, as me aul granny used to say.

It reminds me of a trend I've noticed among some of the women at work who appear to have 'upcycled' picnic blankets into scarves.

Brian? · 20-01-2017 10:49am

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

It reminds me of a trend I've noticed among some of the women at work who appear to have 'upcycled' picnic blankets into scarves.

My wife seems to be on a quest to fill our entire house with scarves. Some of they are just ridiculously big at this stage. I really don't know where the line between scarf and blanket is anymore. Help me.

Tigger · 20-01-2017 11:49am

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

It reminds me of a trend I've noticed among some of the women at work who appear to have 'upcycled' picnic blankets into scarves.

I read that as picnic baskets and was confused.

Alf Veedersane · 20-01-2017 12:12pm

Brian? wrote: »

My wife seems to be on a quest to fill our entire house with scarves. Some of they are just ridiculously big at this stage. I really don't know where the line between scarf and blanket is anymore. Help me.

If it's 'on-trend' it's a scarf.

Otherwise, blanket.

Vegeta · 20-01-2017 12:16pm

Brian? wrote: »

I found my poncho. I bought it from a Native American lady in Northern Arizona, she may have been Navajo. Do you think it's acceptable gym attire?

I wonder if I'll make it into the hoodies thread if I start wearing it to the gym.

Spectacular piece of clothing. Poncho, leggings and hi-tops would be a smashing gym ensemble

FTA69 · 20-01-2017 1:17pm

What's the difference between AIPO and IPO?

Alf Veedersane · 20-01-2017 1:25pm

FTA69 wrote: »

What's the difference between AIPO and IPO?

AIPO = tested
IPO = untested.

It's just adding the drug testing element to the IPO while trying to keep all lifters within the organisation but allowing them the option of competing in either.

whippet · 20-01-2017 2:38pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

AIPO = tested
IPO = untested.

It's just adding the drug testing element to the IPO while trying to keep all lifters within the organisation but allowing them the option of competing in either.

i'd say it was introduced as a response to the popularity of the IPF's comps since they came on the scene.

Unfortunately Drug Tested will never mean Drug Free; but giving an option to go tested or untested in the same meet hopefully will level the playing field.

laserlad2010 · 20-01-2017 2:59pm

whippet wrote: »

you'll enjoy the single lifts ... not as much pressure or fatiguing as a full meet and gives a great indication as to what is involved in competing.

It would be a real shame if the AIPO section was abused.

Thanks Whippet. My coach is aiming to break national records himself so is keen to see me lift big, I suppose its a balance between stepping outside my comfort zone and not making a show of myself on the opener. Even though I'd have no problem attempting to break my PBs on any other day, it just feels so much more nervewracking!

I'm so hungry today tho, hopefully my s**te this afternoon weighs a kilo...

:D

I'll hopefully say hello to you in March!

Alf Veedersane · 20-01-2017 3:18pm

laserlad2010 wrote: »

Thanks Whippet. My coach is aiming to break national records himself so is keen to see me lift big, I suppose its a balance between stepping outside my comfort zone and not making a show of myself on the opener. Even though I'd have no problem attempting to break my PBs on any other day, it just feels so much more nervewracking!

I'm so hungry today tho, hopefully my s**te this afternoon weighs a kilo... :D

I'll hopefully say hello to you in March!

I can appreciate that feeling! I would think that I could do the opener for a triple on an off-day but then doubt creeps in and you go through this internal dialogue that goes a little something like:

"Are you sure about that opener?"
"Yes. I've done multiple doubles and triples and multiple doubles at 5kg heavier"
"Yeah, but have you been feeling really sh*tty when you did that?"
"Eh....well, maybe I wasn't always 100% and that was done when i had accumulated a lot of fatigue. I'll be fresh on the day!"
"Have you tripled it after your wife left you and you were engulfed in a miasma of grief?"
"Wat?"
"Have you done it after being set on fire?"
"...."
"Are you sure about that opener?"
"..."
"Do you want a 50/50?"
"Maybe I should drop it by 5kg..."
"That might be an idea"
"No...NO!! I have done it multiple times for more than one rep"
"Yeah but now you're doubting yourself"

But then I switch on this and I say "F*ck you" to the doubt

laserlad2010 · 20-01-2017 5:25pm

Ha! Exactly!!!

Weighed in at 99.6kg there. I was 102.4kg on Tuesday!

Should I become a Personal Fitness Nutritionalism Trainer??

How To Lose Weight:

Stop eating.
Stop drinking. Anything.

Alf Veedersane · 20-01-2017 6:15pm

laserlad2010 wrote: »

Ha! Exactly!!!

Weighed in at 99.6kg there. I was 102.4kg on Tuesday!

Should I become a Personal Fitness Nutritionalism Trainer??

How To Lose Weight:
Stop eating.

Stop drinking. Anything.

All you need now is an instagram photo of anyone's abs. And a discount code

TRS30 · 20-01-2017 10:05pm

As posted a couple of days ago am struggling with the OHP with unracking and racking the bar, my rotator cuffs are killing me. Have started on some shoulder mobility work however would prefer to stop doing OHP till I can get mobility better.

What is a suitable replacement?

Dtp1979 · 20-01-2017 10:20pm

TRS30 wrote: »

As posted a couple of days ago am struggling with the OHP with unracking and racking the bar, my rotator cuffs are killing me. Have started on some shoulder mobility work however would prefer to stop doing OHP till I can get mobility better.

What is a suitable replacement?

Standing ohp or bumbell ohp

TRS30 · 20-01-2017 10:23pm

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Standing ohp or bumbell ohp

Thanks however shed is not high enough for standing and only have 15kg DB

Alf Veedersane · 20-01-2017 10:31pm

TRS30 wrote: »

As posted a couple of days ago am struggling with the OHP with unracking and racking the bar, my rotator cuffs are killing me. Have started on some shoulder mobility work however would prefer to stop doing OHP till I can get mobility better.

What is a suitable replacement?

If overhead pressing is an issue then maybe try incline benching.

But realistically you're probably going to have to rest it until the problem is resolved. Can you bench without issue?

Dtp1979 · 20-01-2017 10:48pm

TRS30 wrote: »

Thanks however shed is not high enough for standing and only have 15kg DB

I've seen people doing ohp sitting on the floor. You'd need some kind of rack to hold the weight up to starting position

laserlad2010 · 20-01-2017 11:23pm

Do the DB OHP outside the shed.

Or attend a physio and fix the problem rather than finding ways to go around it.

I would recommend rotator cuff workouts such as Halbert Swings, TYWL (make the letter with your arms and light dumbbells).

runawaybishop · 21-01-2017 12:04am

TRS30 wrote: »

As posted a couple of days ago am struggling with the OHP with unracking and racking the bar, my rotator cuffs are killing me. Have started on some shoulder mobility work however would prefer to stop doing OHP till I can get mobility better.

What is a suitable replacement?

Can you not just sit the other way on the bench?

Mellor · 21-01-2017 9:02am

runawaybishop wrote: »

Can you not just sit the other way on the bench?

The "AC Slater"....

Blacktie. · 21-01-2017 9:25am

laserlad2010 wrote:

I would recommend rotator cuff workouts such as Halbert Swings, TYWL (make the letter with your arms and light dumbbells).

I hate this so much. I just can't do it! Like keeping the wrists on the wall. How do peoples shoulders not explode?

Jimmy Iovine · 21-01-2017 9:26am

Dtp1979 wrote:

I've seen people doing ohp sitting on the floor. You'd need some kind of rack to hold the weight up to starting position

That must be the Z press. Slightly different to OHP. Bloody difficult as well.

Brian? · 21-01-2017 10:03am

runawaybishop wrote: »

Can you not just sit the other way on the bench?

Why don't you place the bench between you legs. Unrack the bar standing up and then sit down to press. You get in a bonus box squat on the way back up.

JayRoc · 21-01-2017 11:07am

TRS30 wrote: »

Thanks however shed is not high enough for standing and only have 15kg DB

If you can't do a full press, is there room to stand up and do a Bradford Press?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gD6XoIXGmDI

21-01-2017 11:38am

Ooo there is a live stream

Alf Veedersane · 21-01-2017 12:52pm

bluewolf wrote: »

Ooo there is a live stream

Was all over that....checking out how long the press commands were taking

21-01-2017 1:25pm

I was just cheering on Leslie and the girls ha

Nervous Wreck · 21-01-2017 3:04pm

Link?

Alf Veedersane · 21-01-2017 3:30pm

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Link?

It's on Facebook. Jay F is streaming the lifting that's on now.

Brian? · 21-01-2017 5:23pm

JayRoc wrote: »

If you can't do a full press, is there room to stand up and do a Bradford Press?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gD6XoIXGmDI

I'd worry about shoulder health with any pressing behind the neck.

laserlad2010 · 21-01-2017 7:39pm

IPO President awarded the best lifter award to James Hanley in Boyneside tonight... instead of James Hickey. Great Freudian slip.

The struggle goes on #justice4Hanlambe

whippet · 21-01-2017 7:57pm

laserlad2010 wrote: »

IPO President awarded the best lifter award to James Hanley in Boyneside tonight... instead of James Hickey. Great Freudian slip.

The struggle goes on #justice4Hanlambe

That was a funny moment alright .. how did you get on?

laserlad2010 · 21-01-2017 8:09pm

Posted in achievements thread but got a 200kg DL which was a no lift because I locked my knees as a second movement. PR at 195kg so, 10kg increase. Bench at 120kg matched my PR but was very quick and smooth so Im happy with that!

whippet · 21-01-2017 8:42pm

laserlad2010 wrote: »

Posted in achievements thread but got a 200kg DL which was a no lift because I locked my knees as a second movement. PR at 195kg so, 10kg increase. Bench at 120kg matched my PR but was very quick and smooth so Im happy with that!

I think I remember your lifts alright ... well done and now that you've popped your cherry you'll have to do more !

The Jimbo Slice memorial thread, feat Nate Dogg - The new Off Topic thread

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