Bose Quiet Comfort 35 headphones

TBi · 11-01-2017 12:09PM

errlloyd wrote: »

Cool, I didn't realise WiFi worked like that

Only problem would be that WiFi is a battery hog compared to Bluetooth.

fleet · 11-01-2017 12:45PM

Shiny wrote: »

fourtwozero wrote: »

This has me in a quandary, bluetooth lowers audio quality - its not really suited to audio.

A CD is a PCM 1.4-Mbit stream
Bluetooth aptX is 352 Kbit/sec stream

Given that CD can be losslessly compressed to 700kbit/s you're really losing very little quality with Bluetooth even if your original file is a CD quality PCM.
I dare say that if you fed an 18/24 bit stream (say SACD or similar) out over aptX you may well end up with a superior (albeit lower bandwidth) output than CD.
Throw in that these headphones are designed to be used outside or in a noisy environment, you're really not looking for HiFi in them, you're looking for a best effort against a din.

bk · 11-01-2017 12:59PM

fourtwozero wrote: »

This has me in a quandary, bluetooth lowers audio quality - its not really suited to audio. However If the other phone companies follow suit and remove the headphone jack I dont want to be stuck with a €300 set of ear warmers. WIFI based headphones would make more sense, as long as the extra power requirements could be met.

The problem with wifi is that it uses vastly more power then bluetooth, which would thus mean much shorter run time or way larger and heavier batteries.

For instance the 20 hour battery life you get out of the QC35's would only be about 4 hours with wifi.

Also there is nothing stopping Bluetooth having the same range and performance as wifi, if you increased the power to the Bluetooth radio to the same levels that wifi use. But then it would have the same battery use as wifi.

Bluetooth is good at what it is designed for short range, low bitrate, low power draw.

BTW you can still use a cable with the iPhone 7 and other jack less headphones, it just requires a dongle (and yes you can't charge and listen to music at the same time then, which sucks). But it certainly isn't the case that you have to through out all your old wired headsets.

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SeanyMc22 · 11-01-2017 05:39PM

Sandra Whispering Sensor wrote: »

Can the noise cancellation be turned off on these? A review I read said it can't (was the only "con" given about them). But using a work colleagues a while back I could have sworn he turned it off first and then turned it on to demonstrate how effective the cancellation is.

They are 311 euro delivered on Amazon.es, not bad but really should have bitten in the Harvey Norman sale.

Yeah you can. On the right side there's a button to turn off noise cancelling and bluetooth. Some difference when you knock it off and back on again.

Creamy Goodness · 11-01-2017 05:42PM

I stand by my statement. You don't buy a Lambo to nip to Lidl.

11-01-2017 05:46PM

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

TBH you shouldn't be buying these for sound quality, these are purely I'm in a plane or work in a noisy environment and would like semi-decent sound at a reasonable volume level and they fit that bill nicely. They live in my carry-on bag.

I thought the sound quality was exceptionally good on them to be fair.

I also don't know how people notice a difference with Bluetooth over wired.

Royale with Cheese · 11-01-2017 05:50PM

I have a pair of QC35s and I agree that they are excellent headphones. As far as the sound quality goes they seem fine to me without being outstanding, but that's not why I bought them, the noise cancelling is top notch.

However Sony have just released noise cancelling bluetooth headphones and the reviews are stating they have better sound quality with equally as good noise cancelling. I've never actually used them myself so I can't vouch for that but they might be something to consider.

bk · 11-01-2017 05:53PM

Heisenberg. wrote: »

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They have excellent sound quality for a closed back headphone, just that they wouldn't have comparable quality to a a pair of €300 open back headphones.

But then in a noisy environment an open back headphone would sound terrible and be almost useless.

It is like complaining that a Land Rover Discovery isn't as fast as an equally priced Porsche 911. It's a silly comparison because you would never dream of taking your Porsche in a farmers field or up a mountain. The right tool for the job.

Aquos76 · 11-01-2017 11:35PM

SeanyMc22 wrote: »

Yeah you can. On the right side there's a button to turn off noise cancelling and bluetooth. Some difference when you knock it off and back on again.

Are you sure about this, the only buttons i see are the power button and the three buttons for controlling volume/tracks along with the answer button.

SeanyMc22 · 11-01-2017 11:57PM

Aquos76 wrote: »

Are you sure about this, the only buttons i see are the power button and the three buttons for controlling volume/tracks along with the answer button.

You need to have the cable attached as it knocks off the Bluetooth. You can't knock it off when using Bluetooth though.

Aquos76 · 11-01-2017 11:58PM

Ah yeah, I used it that way ok.

Zimmerframe · 12-01-2017 12:36AM

I know they are not Bose and they are not wireless, but they are headphones and they have active noise cancelling

In case anyone is interested Ibood have Beats 2.0 with active noise cancelling for €88 + postage, seems not a bad price, although I have never tried a pair.

http://www.ibood.com/ie/en/

rustynutz · 12-01-2017 02:20PM

Zimmerframe wrote: »

I know they are not Bose and they are not wireless, but they are headphones and they have active noise cancelling

In case anyone is interested Ibood have Beats 2.0 with active noise cancelling for €88 + postage, seems not a bad price, although I have never tried a pair.

http://www.ibood.com/ie/en/

Has anyone any opinions on the noise cancelling qualities of these? Or experience with Ibood? They seem cheap for what they are

Zimmerframe · 12-01-2017 02:33PM

rustynutz wrote: »

Has anyone..... aexperience with Ibood?

Bought loads of stuff from iBood, never had a problem other than their delivery of the goods. It might appear after a week or after 6 weeks but everything always arrived eventually.

rustynutz · 12-01-2017 02:48PM

Zimmerframe wrote: »

Bought loads of stuff from iBood, never had a problem other than their delivery of the goods. It might appear after a week or after 6 weeks but everything always arrived eventually.

Sold out on Ibood I see

fourtwozero · 12-01-2017 03:10PM

The thing about the Bluetooth vs WIFI, when it come to a Bose headset is its a very expensive headset for noise cancelling and best effort audio. You could use a much cheaper noise isolating set and get better insulation from noise.

I often use "comply premium isolation foam earbud tips" which give a very decent amount of noise reduction for the 20 euro for a pack of tips and any cheap set of earbuds. You can have the volume at a half the normal volume, for most environments. Also, you have lost nothing if you leave them in a hotel room/plane/train/ etc

Shiny · 12-01-2017 04:52PM

I have been using these for the last week and got them while waiting on the fence in this thread.:)

They do a decent job at the lower frequencies, very little at the high frequencies. I mainly use them on the bus and it greatly reduces the engine noise. They most certainly allow you to play your music at a much lower volume than previously.

RebelButtMunch · 12-01-2017 05:31PM

I'm sitting on the fence myself. I'm considering these as a starter option
https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-ANC7B-QuietPoint-Noise-Cancelling-Closed-Back/dp/B002HWJT1A

rustynutz · 12-01-2017 06:00PM

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

I'm sitting on the fence myself. I'm considering these as a starter option
https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-ANC7B-QuietPoint-Noise-Cancelling-Closed-Back/dp/B002HWJT1A

They look good but look at the 1 star reviews before buying, there seems to be problems with quality

bk · 12-01-2017 06:52PM

fourtwozero wrote: »

The thing about the Bluetooth vs WIFI, when it come to a Bose headset is its a very expensive headset for noise cancelling and best effort audio. You could use a much cheaper noise isolating set and get better insulation from noise.

I often use "comply premium isolation foam earbud tips" which give a very decent amount of noise reduction for the 20 euro for a pack of tips and any cheap set of earbuds. You can have the volume at a half the normal volume, for most environments. Also, you have lost nothing if you leave them in a hotel room/plane/train/ etc

Good tip, I've a pair of Etymotics in ear headphones with Comply tips that I used for years before getting the QC20's.

They were a very good sounding earphone and did help isolate noise, but when I got the Bose I found them to be completely in a league of their own in terms of noise cancellation.

But still a great idea as a budget option, the Comply tips, not the Ety's they are blooming expensive!

Tazium · 15-01-2017 12:24AM

Tried repeatedly the QC 35s and just can't get past the size as they appear on my noggin'. My crown is average size but wearing them makes me feel like my ears protrude to my shoulders. I'm going to give the QC 30's a shot from Amazon and hope for the best despite a large number of middling reviews.

Zimmerframe · 15-01-2017 02:08AM

Tazium wrote: »

Just can't get past the size as they appear on my noggin'.

Lose the mirror.

Tazium · 15-01-2017 08:03AM

^ had a giggle thanks. It's not the reflection, its the baance and perception that they are large. Seeing them on others looks fine.

bk · 15-01-2017 12:05PM

Tazium wrote: »

Tried repeatedly the QC 35s and just can't get past the size as they appear on my noggin'. My crown is average size but wearing them makes me feel like my ears protrude to my shoulders. I'm going to give the QC 30's a shot from Amazon and hope for the best despite a large number of meddling reviews.

While not wireless, the QC20's are very well regarded, I have them myself.

BArra · 16-01-2017 03:39PM

Price gone back up on amazon.es, all euro amazons around same price now.

Looking for sub 300e before i pull trigger

Shiny · 16-01-2017 03:47PM

I decided to return the cheaper noise cancelling earphones I got last week and went for the Bose QC20 set in the end. I couldn't help thinking the whole time with the cheaper ones, "If I was wearing Bose I wouldn't hear this....:pac:"

I will report back on the difference.

Yamanoto · 16-01-2017 03:47PM

I stopped by Dixon's in LHR yesterday & tried out both the QC35's & the Sony MDR-1000X. Such was the difference in the effectiveness of noise cancellation, that I got the sales guy to ensure the Bose were set up correctly. It could be that the environment downstairs in T5 at the time might just have favoured the Sony's strong points (and the Bose may well out-perform them over engine drone at 28,000ft). Think the pricing is comparable & I'd be interested to read how they're being reviewed like for like.

BArra · 16-01-2017 05:00PM

Pretty sure the bose are either on..or not on your head. Only way to turn off NC is if the bose use the wire.

Interesting that the sonys were so much better

ahlookit · 16-01-2017 05:52PM

BArra wrote: »

Price gone back up on amazon.es, all euro amazons around same price now.

Looking for sub 300e before i pull trigger

I'm in the same boat ..... waiting for Harvey Norman to reduce them again or for Euro/Sterling to near parity to buy them on amazon.co.uk

Bose Quiet Comfort 35 headphones

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