was there a riot of 250 people in henry street in dublin on dec 26th??

Little CuChulainn · 14-01-2017 01:51PM

gitzy16v wrote: »

Where?

Dunsink Lane and Labre Park would be two obvious ones anyway.

C. Montgomery Gurns · 14-01-2017 01:52PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Dunsink Lane and Labre Park would be two obvious ones anyway.

Even the Google street view car doesn't enter most Traveller estates yet you can tour around feckin Compton and Detroit on it :pac:

gitzy16v · 14-01-2017 01:56PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Dunsink Lane and Labre Park would be two obvious ones anyway.

Any sources for this or is it just your opinion

conorhal · 14-01-2017 01:58PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Dublin has no go areas, and it's nothing to do with immigrants.

Yet, are you suggesting that won't happen? What do you base that on?

Little CuChulainn · 14-01-2017 02:00PM

gitzy16v wrote: »

Any sources for this or is it just your opinion

Why don't you pop down to one of them and check them out. I wouldn't stop your car or open any windows though.

Little CuChulainn · 14-01-2017 02:01PM

conorhal wrote: »

Yet, are you suggesting that won't happen? What do you base that on?

I'm suggesting your point has nothing to do with the alleged fighting in Dublin. There's been plenty of fighting between young lads before.

http://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/huge-brawl-involving-100-people-11606619

http://www.echo.ie/tallaght/article/up-to-50-youths-involved-in-organised-fight-between-schools

gitzy16v · 14-01-2017 02:04PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Why don't you pop down to one of them and check them out. I wouldn't stop your car or open any windows though.

ive been a few time,I used to be a courier....its rough alright but I wouldnt have said theyre no go areas

conorhal · 14-01-2017 02:07PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

I'm suggesting your point has nothing to do with the alleged fighting in Dublin. There's been plenty of fighting between young lads before.

http://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/huge-brawl-involving-100-people-11606619

http://www.echo.ie/tallaght/article/up-to-50-youths-involved-in-organised-fight-between-schools

So now answer beyond whataboutery then. No surprise there.

tayto lover · 14-01-2017 02:07PM

200 youngsters fighting on the city streets THEN the Lord came and fed the multitude with 5 loaves and 2 fishes and all was well.

Little CuChulainn · 14-01-2017 02:09PM

conorhal wrote: »

So now answer beyond whataboutery then. No surprise there.

Again, what has immigration got to do with the alleged fighting in the city center?

Muahahaha · 14-01-2017 02:29PM

gitzy16v wrote: »

ive been a few time,I used to be a courier....its rough alright but I wouldnt have said theyre no go areas

Ive driven up to Dunsink Lane when I was spinning around on my motorbike exploring Dublins nooks and crannies. No way are strangers welcome there, I had several kids throwing rocks while I spun around and scattered out of there. Also the land in Dunsink is actually pretty valuable (close to the M50, only 5 miles from the city) but the council wont go anywhere near it or even suggest moving the travellers on and building proper houses- they know full well if they did they could expect a riot. It is a no go area without doubt.

Likes of Tyrellstown might have a lot of African immigrants but it also has a lot of Irish, Polish, Lithuanians, Latvians, etc. It is simply wrong to say we are creating ghettoes like in Paris. In Paris the councils dumped all these immigrants into specific areas where they have no integration with the French whatsoever. The French wont live in these areas so what you get is the likes of the Paris riots that we saw a few years ago.

conorhal · 14-01-2017 02:29PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Again, what has immigration got to do with the alleged fighting in the city center?

The fact that it's participants are a product of it and indicates that we are replicating the problem of migrant ghettos and their associated problems.

Now, you're turn, are you going to answer the question I asked you?

The_Kew_Tour · 14-01-2017 02:29PM

Is this the greatest Riot Story ever told?

14-01-2017 02:35PM

conorhal wrote: »

The fact that it's participants are a product of it and indicates that we are replicating the problem of migrant ghettos and their associated problems.

Now, you're turn, are you going to answer the question I asked you?

How do you know the participants were immigrants?

LLMMLL · 14-01-2017 02:37PM

I saw the end of this. Was walking down Henry Street at about 8pm and there was a Garda car surrounded by 30-50 teenagers. Someone was being arrested and the kids were screaming "leave him alone" "he didn't do anything". As it was driving off some started hitting the car and kicking it. The car stopped for a moment and they all started screaming and laughing and running away. The car drive off. Was about two thirds black guys and girls and a third white.

Little CuChulainn · 14-01-2017 02:49PM

conorhal wrote: »

The fact that it's participants are a product of it and indicates that we are replicating the problem of migrant ghettos and their associated problems.

Now, you're turn, are you going to answer the question I asked you?

There's not been one report indicating the people involved in this made up fight were immigrants.

And there's not one iota of evidence to suggest areas with large migrant problems have issues with their migrant residents. The worst places in Dublin are the same as they have always been and the worst of the people in them are still white Irish.

Bicky bicky · 14-01-2017 02:52PM

LLMMLL wrote: »

I saw the end of this. Was walking down Henry Street at about 8pm and there was a Garda car surrounded by 30-50 teenagers. Someone was being arrested and the kids were screaming "leave him alone" "he didn't do anything". As it was driving off some started hitting the car and kicking it. The car stopped for a moment and they all started screaming and laughing and running away. The car drive off. Was about two thirds black guys and girls and a third white.

251 teenagers first of all of African descent than 201 with a mix of white pasty Irish
100 than mentioned possibility by the son
In the comments he said 15-20 but he and his huge dad fought them off like true Americans.

Do we have a TD over media?

We now know who they voted for in the Mercian pred election.

ArnieSilvia · 14-01-2017 03:03PM

Agree here, I live in area where majority of population is non Irish and it's the safest place in Ireland I've seen in my 13 years here and reasonably clean too. No issues from residents however my bicycles were stolen by kids from Clondalkin and car was stolen by someone from Tallaght according to what guards said

conorhal · 14-01-2017 03:29PM

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

There's not been one report indicating the people involved in this made up fight were immigrants.

And there's not one iota of evidence to suggest areas with large migrant problems have issues with their migrant residents. The worst places in Dublin are the same as they have always been and the worst of the people in them are still white Irish.

Except that's not what I asked you is it? (Followed with a double down on the whataboutery)

I asked if you thought our migration policy is likely to result in the replication the problems of socially isolated, unintegrated, ethnic ghettos with high crime and unemployment rate like those in France and the UK and if so why pursue such policies?

14-01-2017 03:40PM

I believe there is a thread on immigration in the politics forum, this thread is about an alleged public order incident in Dublin city centre

LLMMLL · 14-01-2017 03:43PM

Bicky bicky wrote: »

251 teenagers first of all of African descent than 201 with a mix of white pasty Irish
100 than mentioned possibility by the son
In the comments he said 15-20 but he and his huge dad fought them off like true Americans.

Do we have a TD over media?

We now know who they voted for in the Mercian pred election.

There were definitely more than 15-20.

conorhal · 14-01-2017 03:49PM

bubblypop wrote: »

How do you know the participants were immigrants?

Because 99% of black people in Ireland today arrived in the last 20yrs? The fact that I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts not one of those involved has a parent or grandparent born here and in all liklihood a fairly large percentage of those involved weren't either.

14-01-2017 03:54PM

conorhal wrote: »

Because 99% of black people in Ireland today arrived in the last 20yrs? The fact that I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts not one of those involved has a parent or grandparent born here and in all liklihood a fairly large percentage of those involved weren't either.

The majority of black teenagers I have met have been born here yes.
So what where their parents come from?

Bicky bicky · 14-01-2017 04:02PM

LLMMLL wrote: »

There were definitely more than 15-20.

I believe you but this wasn't a riot a family of Americans were walking down the street someone bumped off the son light words exchanged (haha I doubt it being American and all the crazy trump ****e in Texas) they were black and attacked the family yet the son proudly boast's of holding 15 to 20 of them off with his dad.

Little CuChulainn · 14-01-2017 04:14PM

conorhal wrote: »

Except that's not what I asked you is it? (Followed with a double down on the whataboutery)

I asked if you thought our migration policy is likely to result in the replication the problems of socially isolated, unintegrated, ethnic ghettos with high crime and unemployment rate like those in France and the UK and if so why pursue such policies?

Like I said, there is no indication at all that we are heading towards high crime ethnic ghettos. And there is no indication at all that migrants were involved in the fighting in the city center.

Yourself isit · 14-01-2017 04:16PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Ive driven up to Dunsink Lane when I was spinning around on my motorbike exploring Dublins nooks and crannies. No way are strangers welcome there, I had several kids throwing rocks while I spun around and scattered out of there. Also the land in Dunsink is actually pretty valuable (close to the M50, only 5 miles from the city) but the council wont go anywhere near it or even suggest moving the travellers on and building proper houses- they know full well if they did they could expect a riot. It is a no go area without doubt.

Likes of Tyrellstown might have a lot of African immigrants but it also has a lot of Irish, Polish, Lithuanians, Latvians, etc. It is simply wrong to say we are creating ghettoes like in Paris. In Paris the councils dumped all these immigrants into specific areas where they have no integration with the French whatsoever. The French wont live in these areas so what you get is the likes of the Paris riots that we saw a few years ago.

Tyrellstown is indeed well kept. And not a ghetto. There's no concentration of different ethnic groups in any Street.

And I too agree that the dangerous parts of Dublin are largely white Irish.

mynamejeff · 14-01-2017 05:08PM

Bicky bicky wrote: »

251 teenagers first of all of African descent than 201 with a mix of white pasty Irish
100 than mentioned possibility by the son
In the comments he said 15-20 but he and his huge dad fought them off like true Americans.

Do we have a TD over media?

We now know who they voted for in the Mercian pred election.

I know standards are slipping in education but this is below the level of human understanding.

Even if english isnt your first language its poor , ( I suspect english is your first language )

Bicky bicky · 14-01-2017 05:15PM

mynamejeff wrote: »

I know standards are slipping in education but this is below the level of human understanding.

Even if english isnt your first language its poor , ( I suspect english is your first language )

I listened less to my English teacher than I did my Irish one ðŸ˜ templemores English teachers were better than mine by your account!

mynamejeff · 14-01-2017 05:27PM

Bicky bicky wrote: »

I listened less to my English teacher than I did my Irish one ðŸ˜ templemores English teachers were better than mine by your account!

Seems to be alright . you know there is an edit function ?

you could go back and repair that mess ?

Advbrd · 14-01-2017 05:34PM

Bicky bicky wrote: »

251 teenagers first of all of African descent than 201 with a mix of white pasty Irish
100 than mentioned possibility by the son
In the comments he said 15-20 but he and his huge dad fought them off like true Americans.

Do we have a TD over media?

We now know who they voted for in the Mercian pred election.

What the hell is this all about?

was there a riot of 250 people in henry street in dublin on dec 26th??

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