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Operation transformation

  • 11-01-2017 08:48PM
    #1
    The Raptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭The Raptor


    Is anyone watching this? What kind of tripe is this?

    They set 4lbs as a goal weight to lose in the week. Thought the healthy amount to lose is about 2lbs a week. What kind of experts are on this, surely this isn't healthy and experts saying it's OK. I'm tracking everything I eat and it wasn't easy to lose 2lbs in the past week. What are these people doing. And what's with the shaming of weighing them half naked?


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  • #2
    The Raptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭The Raptor


    There's one lady who lost 3 lbs in the past week and they're saying it's a failure and she's in tears.


  • #3
    RobertKK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,775 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    That program is a failure and it is why it is on every year.


  • #4
    Junkyard Tom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    It's a disgrace.


  • #5
    alchemist33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    The Raptor wrote: »
    There's one lady who lost 3 lbs in the past week and they're saying it's a failure and she's in tears.

    If we don't have the failure and shaming now we can't have tears of joy, the crying family and the life-affirming music when she inevitably hits her target!


  • #6
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,234 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    If your 16st + then 4lbs isn't a whole lot to lose.

    I think the program is a loada shíte but there's something about Katherine Thomas I like and so I watch it purely for that reason.


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  • #7
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Kids will laugh at us in the future when we tell them we used to have to watch whatever was on TV at the exact time that it was broadcast.

    Darts, snooker at the Countryfile one man and his dog is all I watch on regular telly


  • #8
    outsourced_ire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭outsourced_ire


    While I agree that it isn't great television, you have to admit that it does help encourage people to get more active. Numbers increase at the local park runs and more people are out walking, which can only be a good thing.


  • #9
    andekwarhola
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,644 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Can't get my head around people that go on TV shows like that. Presumably there's some self loathing thing there and they secretly crave being humiliated.


  • #10
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,152 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I don't like the shaming bit where they have to wear them black gear and get weighed.

    Anyway I only watched one program a few years ago. Never again.

    Success and failure every time. Terrible stuff. I hate that kind of thing.

    But each to their own.


  • #11
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,152 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    outsourced_ire wrote: »
    While I agree that it isn't great television, you have to admit that it does help encourage people to get more active. Numbers increase at the local park runs and more people are out walking, which can only be a good thing.

    For two weeks max.

    I'm sure you will come back and dispute that, which is your right. January too. Huh.


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  • #12
    Red Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 ✭Red Eyes


    You would have to question why anyone would even want to be on a show like that? If you want to get fit, fair play to ya but why do it on tv for the whole country to see.


  • #13
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,152 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    They should have a presenter who has to lose weight and does the jobbie with them so to speak. That would be great gas.


  • #14
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,138 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    Kids will laugh at us in the future when we tell them we used to have to watch whatever was on TV at the exact time that it was broadcast.

    Darts, snooker at the Countryfile one man and his dog is all I watch on regular telly

    I don't anymore. I haven't watched TV in years. I download and stream shows I want to watch. I haven't seen an advert in years. And I never watch any crappy reality TV shows.


  • #15
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    The programme is repugnant and should also have a balanced view of it as opposed to bunch of self appointed experts telling them everything they do is bad.

    If you're gonna have a crank with "Instructor" on the back of his t-shirt, there should also be the balance of somebody saying "if binge eating and boozing makes you happy, you go girl".

    Health Fascism has gotten way out of control in this country. The process that this programme goes through is that some people volunteer but they also phone people out of the blue (after being nominated by somebody they know) and ask them to compete on the programme. The vast majority say no.

    If I went on the show, Id go on and see how fat I could get.


  • #16
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,152 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Grayson wrote: »
    I don't anymore. I haven't watched TV in years. I download and stream shows I want to watch. I haven't seen an advert in years. And I never watch any crappy reality TV shows.

    Are you me? That is kind of weird.

    I have a TV but never watch it live.

    I record everything I think I might like for future sofa sitting when I have a cold etc.

    I love Michael Portillo's Great Train Journeys. That's a night sorted, and no ads either.


  • #17
    The_Valeyard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »
    If your 16st + then 4lbs isn't a whole lot to lose.


    Dont watch it, but,


    If someone is making a genuine effort to get fit and healthy and looses 4lbs. Couldnt give two f*cks if it was from 16st. They should be encouraged and supported to continue.


  • #18
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,152 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I think it's Schadenfreude or some such thing. You know, you look at them and think, God Almighty I hope I never get to that stage. But you already are. LOL

    You are a couch potato sitting in front of the TV every night with nachos and coke and can pass comment on these people.

    It is awful stuff.


  • #19
    Mena Mitty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,399 ✭✭✭Mena Mitty


    The Raptor wrote: »
    There's one lady who lost 3 lbs in the past week and they're saying it's a failure and she's in tears.

    Three of the mentors were absolutely horrible to her. She lost 3lbs. 3 outta 4 ain't bad. I say well done to her.


  • #20
    The Backwards Man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Grayson wrote: »
    I don't anymore. I haven't watched TV in years. I download and stream shows I want to watch. I haven't seen an advert in years. And I never watch any crappy reality TV shows.
    I like the meerkat ads:o


  • #21
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,152 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Well for me humiliation and shaming are off my radar.

    Anyone can go for a walk and cut the carbs. Some people have deep seated issues/bereavements/tough lives. Cut a bit of slack. No one is perfect, least of all myself.

    The public humiliation should not EVER be any part of this.

    A bit of positivity is good. But that wouldn't make for good TV, for those masochists who choose to watch a person being put through the wringer. Awful.


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  • #22
    djemba djemba
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,607 ✭✭✭djemba djemba


    Just like the biggest loser but without the €250,000 prize fund


  • #23
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,152 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Right all you masochists, watch away.

    How could anyone enjoy watching someone being humiliated. I just don't get it.


  • #24
    Miss Demeanour
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭Miss Demeanour


    I don't think the weighing them in lycra is purely for humiliation purpose to be honest.....I think it has more to do with seeing their body shape change over the course of the series.


    Then again ask me to stand in front of the nation in lycra and I will sew my lips shut and run like Usain Bolt for the week......kinda guaranteed results :D


  • #25
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Right all you masochists, watch away.

    How could anyone enjoy watching someone being humiliated. I just don't get it.


    I only tuned in to RTE+1 after seeing the thread. It was Vile how they treated that girl. A bunch of smug, self serving nannies having a go at her for no reason.

    I have no idea why people would do this programme without a financial incentive. The "judges" are profiting off making somebody miserable. Even if they make their targets, they are still miserable because they cannot enjoy the finer things in life.


  • #26
    pconn062
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    A guy from my local village was on this show a year or two ago. Lost a tonne of weight but since the end of the show has piled it all back on and more. The same as with all crash diet/exercise regimes, it is bound for failure.

    Plus all the people involved in the show are primarily concerned with one thing, making an entertaining show with maximum potential for advertisement profit. They don't give two craps about people losing weight.


  • #27
    222233
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭222233


    I guiltily enjoy OT. I once joined the local OT group just so I could have walking partners at night, was fun.


  • #28
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 22,384 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What's Karl Henry's own record in triathlons?

    Saw a few posts around Boards in the past that were a bit sceptical...

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showthread.php?t=2057366894


  • #29
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »
    If your 16st + then 4lbs isn't a whole lot to lose.

    I think the program is a loada shíte but there's something about Katherine Thomas I like and so I watch it purely for that reason.

    It's not the amount you lose, it's the speed you lose. If you cut calories too fast then you break down muscle tissue. This results in a slower metabolism and higher propensity for weight gain.


  • #30
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,864 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    It's not the amount you lose, it's the speed you lose. If you cut calories too fast then you break down muscle tissue. This results in a slower metabolism and higher propensity for weight gain.

    This is total rubbish.

    If you are 16st then losing 4lbs is nothing in the first week as it's mostly excess fluid that is lost. Fast weight loss in the beginning is completely normal and slows down as time goes by.

    The premise of OT is good, get people to eat healthier and exercise more.

    What is wrong with that?

    I actually wonder if the people who complain about it and rubbish it are just overweight themselves and don't want to change.


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  • #31
    CINCLANTFLT
    Closed Accounts Posts: 781 ✭✭✭CINCLANTFLT


    Richard Hillman wrote: »

    If I went on the show, Id go on and see how fat I could get.

    Ha ha... that would be so funny... go on each week, get weighed, eat lettuce when the cameras are around and then when they are not....
    GORGE yourself on anything you can get your hands on... think of when Homer went to Dr Nick for advice on how to gain weight!

    Then each week as they weigh you, just look confused and chew on some lettuce after the weigh in...


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