Wouldn't Pearse Doherty make a great Taoiseach

1gunsnroses · 10-01-2017 12:08am #1

Wouldn't it be great for Ireland in the future to have a leader like Pearse Doherty. A man who is for the people

Seth Brundle · 10-01-2017 12:11am

1gunsnroses wrote: »

A man who is for the people

A man who is what exactly for the people?

drunkmonkey · 10-01-2017 12:12am

He looks knackered. He'd be best off buy a little beach bar somewhere.

blackcard · 10-01-2017 12:13am

1gunsnroses wrote: »

Wouldn't it be great for Ireland in the future to have a leader like Pearse Doherty. A man who is for the people

Seriously?

J Mysterio · 10-01-2017 12:15am

drunkmonkey wrote: »

He looks knackered. He'd be best off buy a little beach bar somewhere.

I agree he looks knackered. He is a brilliant politician. Clever and seems a good guy, empathetic. Probably knackered from having to constantly debate and never be actually listened to.

1gunsnroses · 10-01-2017 12:16am

kbannon wrote: »

A man who is what exactly for the people?

For the people meaning that he listens to the people and sticks with the people

1gunsnroses · 10-01-2017 12:17am

blackcard wrote: »

Seriously?

YES

mickdw · 10-01-2017 12:20am

He is all bluff with no solid policy.... so yes he would fit right in.

L1011 · 10-01-2017 10:13am

1gunsnroses wrote: »

For the people meaning that he listens to the people and sticks with the people

By virtue of never having been in power. His party has a particularly poor record of listening or sticking with their voters where they are in government.

FreudianSlippers · 10-01-2017 10:22am

J Mysterio wrote: »

I agree he looks knackered. He is a brilliant politician. Clever and seems a good guy, empathetic. Probably knackered from having to constantly debate and never be actually listened to.

When that much nonsense comes out of one's mouth, it's difficult to be listened to.

1gunsnroses wrote: »

For the people meaning that he listens to the people and sticks with the people

I am a "people" and he doesn't listen or stick with me.

Seth Brundle · 10-01-2017 10:46am

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

I am a "people" and he doesn't listen or stick with me.

If memory serves me correctly, you have a job. Why on earth would he listen to you?

FrancieBrady · 10-01-2017 10:50am

mickdw wrote: »

He is all bluff .

How do you know he is 'bluff'? Has he been in power?

constance tench · 10-01-2017 10:56am

kbannon wrote: »

If memory serves me correctly, you have a job. Why on earth would he listen to you?

Nice display of classism there... well done.

mickdw · 10-01-2017 11:14am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

How do you know he is 'bluff'? Has he been in power?

No he has not been in power. He didn't want to be either because then what would do - he would be found out.

Permabear · 10-01-2017 12:19pm

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FrancieBrady · 10-01-2017 12:21pm

mickdw wrote: »

No he has not been in power. He didn't want to be either because then what would do - he would be found out.

So he hasn't been in power i.e. his bluff hasn't been called yet.

Seth Brundle · 10-01-2017 12:29pm

constance tench wrote: »

Nice display of classism there... well done.

You're very welcome.
I actually wasn't expecting to see a compliment, so it's so nice to see good manners these days!
The cynic in me had thought someone would have objected to my crude attempt at indicating SF's overt populism and leanings towards the self-entitled but you restored my faith.

mickdw · 10-01-2017 1:20pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

So he hasn't been in power i.e. his bluff hasn't been called yet.

For me, his line of crap doesn't exactly require the rigours of government in order to see through it.

homerjay2005 · 10-01-2017 1:26pm

1gunsnroses wrote: »

For the people meaning that he listens to the people and sticks with the people

listens to people who want to run the country into the ground and destroy our economy you mean?

Pawwed Rig · 10-01-2017 1:27pm

Were I forced to select a SF taoiseach then I would probably choose Pearse. At the same time I would enrole in German lessons.

FrancieBrady · 10-01-2017 1:36pm

mickdw wrote: »

For me, his line of crap doesn't exactly require the rigours of government in order to see through it.

You cannot say that someone is 'bluffing' with any accuracy unless you call the bluff.

FrancieBrady · 10-01-2017 1:38pm

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Were I forced to select a SF taoiseach then I would probably choose Pearse. At the same time I would enrole in German lessons.

Way ahead of you on the German lessons, I've been doing them since just before the Troika arrived.

A Little Pony · 10-01-2017 2:07pm

Surprised he hasn't tried a coup to get rid of the maniac Gerry Adams and any of the other IRA stooges. Until he has the balls to do that, Sinn Fein don't stand any chance of being the party of government.

FreudianSlippers · 10-01-2017 2:11pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Way ahead of you on the German lessons, I've been doing them since just before the Troika arrived.

Did you only study when they actually came, or are you saying you studied throughout the Programme?
Either way you've studied somewhere between 4 months and 3 years - I bet you're fluent now! :rolleyes:

FreudianSlippers · 10-01-2017 2:12pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You cannot say that someone is 'bluffing' with any accuracy unless you call the bluff.

SF's economic policy in the South is entirely a bluff - it's nonsensical and cannot be worked in any way shape or form.

FrancieBrady · 10-01-2017 2:21pm

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

Did you only study when they actually came, or are you saying you studied throughout the Programme?
Either way you've studied somewhere between 4 months and 3 years - I bet you're fluent now! :rolleyes:

Korrekt

FrancieBrady · 10-01-2017 2:23pm

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

SF's economic policy in the South is entirely a bluff - it's nonsensical and cannot be worked in any way shape or form.

You can say FG's health policy is a bluff because it patently and demonstratively hasn't worked.
Can you say that SF's hasn't worked? No, because it hasn't been implemented.

You can have an opinion though.

FreudianSlippers · 10-01-2017 2:26pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You can say FG's health policy is a bluff because it patently and demonstratively hasn't worked.
Can you say that SF's hasn't worked? No, because it hasn't been implemented.

You can have an opinion though.

SF's health policy is to spend an additional €3.3bn on healthcare; if FG spent an additional €3.3bn on healthcare, they wouldn't (in theory) have the issues you describe.

Only problem with SF's plan is where do they get an additional €3.3bn? They don't seem too sure themselves - other than "the rich"!

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Korrekt

Ich hätte "richtig" gesagt.

:shrug:

FrancieBrady · 10-01-2017 2:33pm

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

SF's health policy is to spend an additional €3.3bn on healthcare; if FG spent an additional €3.3bn on healthcare, they wouldn't (in theory) have the issues you describe.

Only problem with SF's plan is where do they get an additional €3.3bn? They don't seem too sure themselves - other than "the rich"!

'in theory' being the important word there.

There is only one of the two who have been actually caught 'bluffing'.
We would have to wait for SF to run their policies to say definitively that they are 'bluffing'.

FreudianSlippers · 10-01-2017 2:35pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

'in theory' being the important word there.

There is only one of the two who have been actually caught 'bluffing'.

I say "in theory" because I don't think throwing more money at the situation will fix it. SF's policy is simply FG's plus more money... so I don't see how you can distinguish between the two.

We would have to wait for SF to run their policies to say definitively that they are 'bluffing'.

I'd rather not let them drive the economy into the toilet and spend billions without knowing where they're going to get it.

FrancieBrady · 10-01-2017 2:39pm

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

I say "in theory" because I don't think throwing more money at the situation will fix it. SF's policy is simply FG's plus more money... so I don't see how you can distinguish between the two.

I'd rather not let them drive the economy into the toilet and spend billions without knowing where they're going to get it.

That, as they say, is your prerogative.
You go right ahead and find a party that wasn't party to driving our economy into the toilet.

A Little Pony · 10-01-2017 2:39pm

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

FrancieBrady wrote: »

You can say FG's health policy is a bluff because it patently and demonstratively hasn't worked.
Can you say that SF's hasn't worked? No, because it hasn't been implemented.

You can have an opinion though.

SF's health policy is to spend an additional €3.3bn on healthcare; if FG spent an additional €3.3bn on healthcare, they wouldn't (in theory) have the issues you describe.

Only problem with SF's plan is where do they get an additional €3.3bn? They don't seem too sure themselves - other than "the rich"!

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Korrekt

Ich hätte "richtig" gesagt.

:shrug:

Sinn Fein are famous for money growing trees.

FrancieBrady · 10-01-2017 2:40pm

A Little Pony wrote: »

Sinn Fein are famous for money growing trees.

And the DUP for burning them!

FreudianSlippers · 10-01-2017 2:43pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

That, as they say, is your prerogative.
You go right ahead and find a party that wasn't party to driving our economy into the toilet.

So you're admitting the SF policy that is "so much better you guys" than FG's policy is a magic €3.3bn?

FrancieBrady · 10-01-2017 2:45pm

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

So you're admitting the SF policy that is "so much better you guys" than FG's policy is a magic €3.3bn?

No, I am saying you cannot say somebody is 'bluffing' without calling that bluff at some point.
You can argue back and forth about aspects all you want.
You can say somebody has been 'bluffing' if they have implemented it and it fails.

jimmycrackcorm · 10-01-2017 2:53pm

Pawwed Rig wrote:

Were I forced to select a SF taoiseach then I would probably choose Pearse. At the same time I would enrole in German lessons.

Actually you should learn Greek seeing as Pearse told us we should be following the example of Syriza.

Pawwed Rig · 10-01-2017 2:55pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

'in theory' being the important word there.

There is only one of the two who have been actually caught 'bluffing'.
We would have to wait for SF to run their policies to say definitively that they are 'bluffing'.

Sure lets give them a go. What's the worst that could happen?

FreudianSlippers · 10-01-2017 3:09pm

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Actually you should learn Greek seeing as Pearse told us we should be following the example of Syriza.

Forgot about that! I'd say that obviously awful advice was a "bluff".

Pawwed Rig · 10-01-2017 3:51pm

Syriza had a good plan to be fair. Having huge lumps of sovereign debt written off was never going to fly with the EU though. More like a wish list than economic policy.

A Little Pony · 10-01-2017 4:19pm

Greece needs a nationalist party, not some Socialist yahoo party. Bring the glory back to Greece, give the people something to believe in, the greatness of Greece.

Permabear · 10-01-2017 4:26pm

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FrancieBrady · 10-01-2017 4:30pm

Permabear wrote: »

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Ελεγχος*

*Control

A Little Pony · 10-01-2017 4:41pm

Permabear wrote: »

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Make Greece Great Again![/quote]
It would work!. Can't believe socialists control Greece. I say control loosely, we all know the EU have them bent over the table.

Seth Brundle · 10-01-2017 4:45pm

A Little Pony wrote: »

It would work!. Can't believe socialists control Greece. I say control loosely, we all know the EU have them bent over the table.

Yeah. It was so unfair of the EU to give them money with strings attached! :rolleyes:

ancapailldorcha · 10-01-2017 7:59pm

I'm going to close this as it's just a collection of one-liners. OP, please read the charter before starting any more threads here.

Wouldn't Pearse Doherty make a great Taoiseach

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