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Wouldn't Pearse Doherty make a great Taoiseach

  • 10-01-2017 12:08am
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    Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭


    Wouldn't it be great for Ireland in the future to have a leader like Pearse Doherty. A man who is for the people


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    A man who is for the people
    A man who is what exactly for the people?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,330 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    He looks knackered. He'd be best off buy a little beach bar somewhere.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,054 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Wouldn't it be great for Ireland in the future to have a leader like Pearse Doherty. A man who is for the people

    Seriously?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    He looks knackered. He'd be best off buy a little beach bar somewhere.

    I agree he looks knackered. He is a brilliant politician. Clever and seems a good guy, empathetic. Probably knackered from having to constantly debate and never be actually listened to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭1gunsnroses


    kbannon wrote: »
    A man who is what exactly for the people?

    For the people meaning that he listens to the people and sticks with the people


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  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭1gunsnroses


    blackcard wrote: »
    Seriously?

    YES


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,459 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    He is all bluff with no solid policy.... so yes he would fit right in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,536 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    For the people meaning that he listens to the people and sticks with the people

    By virtue of never having been in power. His party has a particularly poor record of listening or sticking with their voters where they are in government.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    J Mysterio wrote: »
    I agree he looks knackered. He is a brilliant politician. Clever and seems a good guy, empathetic. Probably knackered from having to constantly debate and never be actually listened to.
    When that much nonsense comes out of one's mouth, it's difficult to be listened to.
    For the people meaning that he listens to the people and sticks with the people
    I am a "people" and he doesn't listen or stick with me.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I am a "people" and he doesn't listen or stick with me.
    If memory serves me correctly, you have a job. Why on earth would he listen to you?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,901 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    mickdw wrote: »
    He is all bluff .

    How do you know he is 'bluff'? Has he been in power?


  • Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭constance tench


    kbannon wrote: »
    If memory serves me correctly, you have a job. Why on earth would he listen to you?

    Nice display of classism there... well done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,459 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    How do you know he is 'bluff'? Has he been in power?

    No he has not been in power. He didn't want to be either because then what would do - he would be found out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,901 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    mickdw wrote: »
    No he has not been in power. He didn't want to be either because then what would do - he would be found out.

    So he hasn't been in power i.e. his bluff hasn't been called yet.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Nice display of classism there... well done.
    You're very welcome.
    I actually wasn't expecting to see a compliment, so it's so nice to see good manners these days!
    The cynic in me had thought someone would have objected to my crude attempt at indicating SF's overt populism and leanings towards the self-entitled but you restored my faith.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,459 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    So he hasn't been in power i.e. his bluff hasn't been called yet.

    For me, his line of crap doesn't exactly require the rigours of government in order to see through it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    For the people meaning that he listens to the people and sticks with the people

    listens to people who want to run the country into the ground and destroy our economy you mean?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Were I forced to select a SF taoiseach then I would probably choose Pearse. At the same time I would enrole in German lessons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,901 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    mickdw wrote: »
    For me, his line of crap doesn't exactly require the rigours of government in order to see through it.



    You cannot say that someone is 'bluffing' with any accuracy unless you call the bluff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,901 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »
    Were I forced to select a SF taoiseach then I would probably choose Pearse. At the same time I would enrole in German lessons.

    Way ahead of you on the German lessons, I've been doing them since just before the Troika arrived.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Surprised he hasn't tried a coup to get rid of the maniac Gerry Adams and any of the other IRA stooges. Until he has the balls to do that, Sinn Fein don't stand any chance of being the party of government.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Way ahead of you on the German lessons, I've been doing them since just before the Troika arrived.
    Did you only study when they actually came, or are you saying you studied throughout the Programme?
    Either way you've studied somewhere between 4 months and 3 years - I bet you're fluent now! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    You cannot say that someone is 'bluffing' with any accuracy unless you call the bluff.
    SF's economic policy in the South is entirely a bluff - it's nonsensical and cannot be worked in any way shape or form.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,901 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Did you only study when they actually came, or are you saying you studied throughout the Programme?
    Either way you've studied somewhere between 4 months and 3 years - I bet you're fluent now! :rolleyes:


    Korrekt ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,901 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    SF's economic policy in the South is entirely a bluff - it's nonsensical and cannot be worked in any way shape or form.

    You can say FG's health policy is a bluff because it patently and demonstratively hasn't worked.
    Can you say that SF's hasn't worked? No, because it hasn't been implemented.

    You can have an opinion though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    You can say FG's health policy is a bluff because it patently and demonstratively hasn't worked.
    Can you say that SF's hasn't worked? No, because it hasn't been implemented.

    You can have an opinion though.
    SF's health policy is to spend an additional €3.3bn on healthcare; if FG spent an additional €3.3bn on healthcare, they wouldn't (in theory) have the issues you describe.

    Only problem with SF's plan is where do they get an additional €3.3bn? They don't seem too sure themselves - other than "the rich"!
    Korrekt ;)
    Ich hätte "richtig" gesagt.

    :shrug:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,901 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    SF's health policy is to spend an additional €3.3bn on healthcare; if FG spent an additional €3.3bn on healthcare, they wouldn't (in theory) have the issues you describe.

    Only problem with SF's plan is where do they get an additional €3.3bn? They don't seem too sure themselves - other than "the rich"!

    'in theory' being the important word there.

    There is only one of the two who have been actually caught 'bluffing'.
    We would have to wait for SF to run their policies to say definitively that they are 'bluffing'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    'in theory' being the important word there.

    There is only one of the two who have been actually caught 'bluffing'.
    I say "in theory" because I don't think throwing more money at the situation will fix it. SF's policy is simply FG's plus more money... so I don't see how you can distinguish between the two.
    We would have to wait for SF to run their policies to say definitively that they are 'bluffing'.
    I'd rather not let them drive the economy into the toilet and spend billions without knowing where they're going to get it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,901 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I say "in theory" because I don't think throwing more money at the situation will fix it. SF's policy is simply FG's plus more money... so I don't see how you can distinguish between the two.


    I'd rather not let them drive the economy into the toilet and spend billions without knowing where they're going to get it.

    That, as they say, is your prerogative.
    You go right ahead and find a party that wasn't party to driving our economy into the toilet.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    You can say FG's health policy is a bluff because it patently and demonstratively hasn't worked.
    Can you say that SF's hasn't worked? No, because it hasn't been implemented.

    You can have an opinion though.
    SF's health policy is to spend an additional €3.3bn on healthcare; if FG spent an additional €3.3bn on healthcare, they wouldn't (in theory) have the issues you describe.

    Only problem with SF's plan is where do they get an additional €3.3bn? They don't seem too sure themselves - other than "the rich"!
    Korrekt ;)
    Ich hätte "richtig" gesagt.

    :shrug:

    Sinn Fein are famous for money growing trees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,901 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Sinn Fein are famous for money growing trees.

    And the DUP for burning them! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    That, as they say, is your prerogative.
    You go right ahead and find a party that wasn't party to driving our economy into the toilet.
    So you're admitting the SF policy that is "so much better you guys" than FG's policy is a magic €3.3bn?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,901 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    So you're admitting the SF policy that is "so much better you guys" than FG's policy is a magic €3.3bn?

    No, I am saying you cannot say somebody is 'bluffing' without calling that bluff at some point.
    You can argue back and forth about aspects all you want.
    You can say somebody has been 'bluffing' if they have implemented it and it fails.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,345 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Pawwed Rig wrote:
    Were I forced to select a SF taoiseach then I would probably choose Pearse. At the same time I would enrole in German lessons.

    Actually you should learn Greek seeing as Pearse told us we should be following the example of Syriza.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    'in theory' being the important word there.

    There is only one of the two who have been actually caught 'bluffing'.
    We would have to wait for SF to run their policies to say definitively that they are 'bluffing'.

    Sure lets give them a go. What's the worst that could happen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Actually you should learn Greek seeing as Pearse told us we should be following the example of Syriza.
    Forgot about that! I'd say that obviously awful advice was a "bluff".


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Syriza had a good plan to be fair. Having huge lumps of sovereign debt written off was never going to fly with the EU though. More like a wish list than economic policy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Greece needs a nationalist party, not some Socialist yahoo party. Bring the glory back to Greece, give the people something to believe in, the greatness of Greece.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,901 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    Ελεγχος*


    *Control :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Permabear wrote: »
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    Make Greece Great Again![/quote]
    It would work!. Can't believe socialists control Greece. I say control loosely, we all know the EU have them bent over the table.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    It would work!. Can't believe socialists control Greece. I say control loosely, we all know the EU have them bent over the table.
    Yeah. It was so unfair of the EU to give them money with strings attached! :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,537 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I'm going to close this as it's just a collection of one-liners. OP, please read the charter before starting any more threads here.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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