Terrorised in our own home

murphydublin · 03-01-2017 07:50AM #1

My life has turned into a living nightmare and I just dont know what to do.

My 14 yo son was set upon but a gang of lads on New Years Day. He managed to get away and get safe by someone giving him a lift to his girlfriends house. This person who gave him a lift saw him running from this gang jumped out punched one of the gang and got my boy to saftey. Turns out the punched fella is from a big angry family and now they r very upset and blaming my boy

This gang came after my boy before on the first day of his summer holidays last year and he was almost stabbed. AskING around it appeared the came from quite dodgy families so after weeks of agonising we decided to put our heads down and try get in with things and not involve the guards. My son stayed in everyday of his summer holidays

After they chas ed him on new years day I woke my husband who had been on nights and he went to fetch our boy home . When he got back there was 12 of them sitting on the wall opposite our house staring over. They have never been down here before. My husband went over roaring to get away from our home and leave our boy alone. They didn't even move. 14 to 16 year old with not an ounce of fear in them.

Called guards and got the oh well call you back we have no cars in the area story. I took the kids away that night just to be sure and we are now on holidays in the country. We get a call yesterday to say my husbands van has been smashed to pieces in the garden. His livelihood destroyed. Called guards and they made a note . I don't know why we bother

This gang of animals all had weapons on Sunday. The reason they are after my boy was all this he said u said something about me bull. Which boils down to them being bored animals and picking on whoever it suits them.

I am physically sick to my stomach and haven't slept since this happened. They won't stop at the van. What if my home is next . My husband does nights do I sit in the window watching and waiting trying to protect my kids. A neighbour has cctv of the gang decending on my house last night .

Do I try approach their families and reason with them? The guards are sitting on their hands . What if these families won't appreciate the guards nosing in their business and we'll have agrivated a much older group. A more dangerous group.

I can't think staight . How do I help my boy. Has anyone any expierence of this type of situation?

We both work very hard and live in a nice community and kids are so settled in schools. I don't want to leave. Any why should I have to ???

Richard Hillman · 03-01-2017 07:56AM

Yes, CCTV is a good idea.

But more importantly involve the Garda in everything. Tell them everything and get down to the station and be as loud and obnoxious as possible. If there is another local station involve them too. Make sure there is a Tour De Force of complaints about these people and the handling of it.

Write to your local councilllor and TD. Contact the media if need be.

hatrickpatrick · 03-01-2017 07:57AM

Get in touch with GSOC for a start. The Gardai ignoring sh!t like this is a disgrace and needs to be stopped.

punisher5112 · 03-01-2017 07:57AM

murphydublin wrote: »

My life has turned into a living nightmare and I just dont know what to do.

My 14 yo son was set upon but a gang of lads on New Years Day. He managed to get away and get safe by someone giving him a lift to his girlfriends house. This person who gave him a lift saw him running from this gang jumped out punched one of the gang and got my boy to saftey. Turns out the punched fella is from a big angry family and now they r very upset and blaming my boy

This gang came after my boy before on the first day of his summer holidays last year and he was almost stabbed. AskING around it appeared the came from quite dodgy families so after weeks of agonising we decided to put our heads down and try get in with things and not involve the guards. My son stayed in everyday of his summer holidays

After they chas ed him on new years day I woke my husband who had been on nights and he went to fetch our boy home . When he got back there was 12 of them sitting on the wall opposite our house staring over. They have never been down here before. My husband went over roaring to get away from our home and leave our boy alone. They didn't even move. 14 to 16 year old with not an ounce of fear in them.

Called guards and got the oh well call you back we have no cars in the area story. I took the kids away that night just to be sure and we are now on holidays in the country. We get a call yesterday to say my husbands van has been smashed to pieces in the garden. His livelihood destroyed. Called guards and they made a note . I don't know why we bother

This gang of animals all had weapons on Sunday. The reason they are after my boy was all this he said u said something about me bull. Which boils down to them being bored animals and picking on whoever it suits them.

I am physically sick to my stomach and haven't slept since this happened. They won't stop at the van. What if my home is next . My husband does nights do I sit in the window watching and waiting trying to protect my kids. A neighbour has cctv of the gang decending on my house last night .

Do I try approach their families and reason with them? The guards are sitting on their hands . What if these families won't appreciate the guards nosing in their business and we'll have agrivated a much older group. A more dangerous group.

I can't think staight . How do I help my boy. Has anyone any expierence of this type of situation?

We both work very hard and live in a nice community and kids are so settled in schools. I don't want to leave. Any why should I have to ???

Get CCTV and record everything.

pickarooney · 03-01-2017 07:58AM

Tell the guards you've captured one of them and he looks like he's bleeding to death. They'd have to make some effort to come.

Autonomous Cowherd · 03-01-2017 07:58AM

Oh God, that is absolutely appalling. I'm so very sorry your family are experiencing that.
I have never experienced anything at that level, though as a stranger in a very rural location we did experience harassment from morons in the early years, including some minor attacks on the children, but nothing even approaching the level you describe.

I am a great believer in running away from battles that cannot be won. It may be seen as the cowards option, but I don't see it like that - some people cannot be reasoned with, some battles will wear one out in the end. In your shoes I would leave that place. Put the house up for sale. Start somewhere else. Life is short. Life is precious. Another place would be better. Just my opinion.

Richard Hillman · 03-01-2017 08:00AM

Also if the Garda are not doing anything to stop this, construct methods of community retribution. Remember, if they are from rough families they probably have a lot of enemies. The law abiding citizens is the last person on the list of suspects.

murphydublin · 03-01-2017 08:09AM

I point blank refuse to move my kids schools. They are doing really well and I'm not having some no marks mess up their education.

I say this because even if we did move (which is a horrific thought I love our home) animals will simply follow kids from school or me collecting them

I just can't see how this will ever end

Graces7 · 03-01-2017 08:26AM

murphydublin wrote: »

I point blank refuse to move my kids schools. They are doing really well and I'm not having some no marks mess up their education.

I say this because even if we did move (which is a horrific thought I love our home) animals will simply follow kids from school or me collecting them

I just can't see how this will ever end

So sorry. A terrible situation.

Make a formal complaint to the Garda Ombudsman. see

https://www.gardaombudsman.ie/complaints/complaints.html

There is even a form online to make it easier

Or, first, write to the head honcho locally and say that you will do this if something is not done.

I had to do this after I was assaulted .. I got action at local level then.

They have a duty of care to you. .

pilly · 03-01-2017 08:38AM

Keep on and on at the guards. If your neighbours have cctv coverage insist they take this as evidence. Do not even consider moving. This will pass if they get enough hassle from the guards.

Autonomous Cowherd · 03-01-2017 08:52AM

14 year old - chased - punched - almost stabbed - confined to home for summer months - gang waiting on wall opposite house.....

Their performance in education will be affected more in the long run by that kind of dreadful violence than by any move.

I would live in a caravan in the middle of a bog rather than live one more minute with that level of threat to my child. Even though I love my home, I would drop the attachment to it in a heartbeat.

As you said yourself, you do not see how this would end. I don't either. Cnuts like those attackers do not have epiphanies.
Anyways...best of luck.

sharkfox · 03-01-2017 09:21AM

Do you know anyone around the area that they might have some respect for or even be afraid of that could have a word with them for you?

darkdubh · 03-01-2017 09:23AM

sharkfox wrote: »

Do you know anyone around the area that they might have some respect for or even be afraid of that could have a word with them for you?

Parish priest maybe? Not joking, often the only authority figure that these kind of scummers respect.

murphydublin · 03-01-2017 09:30AM

sharkfox wrote: »

Do you know anyone around the area that they might have some respect for or even be afraid of that could have a word with them for you?

We have made some calls in the hopé that someone knows someone who can help.

Part if me wants to go to their schools and arrange to meet with parents and try sort it all out but how likely is it that the parents will listen or be surprised or even entertain me .

On one side if the families are dodgy they may get angrier at us for bringing police attention to them. On the other side they may give the bullies he'll for doing it. Leaving the bullies more angry and prone to lash out

I feel so trapped. My husband is in ribbons. He wants to sort once and for all. But he's an adult and they r legally children and I can't loose him. He wants to protect us and is so angry and frustrated that nothing is being done

Lovely Bloke · 03-01-2017 09:33AM

Is there a local Sinn Fein politician you could talk to?

Foggy Jew · 03-01-2017 09:53AM

Forget about living in a caravan in the middle of a bog ..... Camp out in your local Garda Station. This is a law and order issue, and thats what the Gardai are there for. Speak to the Superintendant TODAY. Have your concerns noted and recorded. If more intimidation happens, there will be a record on Pulse & the guards will have to intervene. This is a dreadful ordeal for you & your family. I hope you can stop it. Best of luck.

03-01-2017 10:00AM

where about s is this area? in Dublin? can we ask?

Rmgblue · 03-01-2017 10:15AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Get in touch with GSOC for a start. The Gardai ignoring sh!t like this is a disgrace and needs to be stopped.

Where did she say the guards are ignoring ****? Is it not reasonable to accept that they might not have had a car in the area at the time? Going to the local super is a better idea rather that gsoc! GSOC I'm sure are up the walls dealing with other fabricated complaints

GLaDOS · 03-01-2017 10:15AM

Have you gone down to the guards in person? They mightnt be as quick to fob you off that way.

03-01-2017 10:21AM

@murphydublin :

Hi ! I'm surprised they don't come, I think you need to call again the Garda. if the guy doesn't want to move his ass, ask to talk with a superior.

Personally my ex neighbor call the Garda, because we had a little dispute (I yelled in the street.. he probably be afraid because I'm foreigner and was in Army). After 10 min, they come at home, and I explained the story.

maybe try to talk with the parents ?

TheQuietFella · 03-01-2017 10:22AM

Lovely Bloke wrote: »

Is there a local Sinn Fein politician you could talk to?

An excellent way of putting it!!!!

macnug · 03-01-2017 10:26AM

I'd try talking to the family of the ringleader first before going to the guards, if you go straight to the guards your going to be labeled a rat. If your husband goes to the father/older brother first and explain the situation you will get more respect in the long run. It may or may not work but it has always worked for me. Obviously if that doesn't work and the intimation continues then involve the guards.

murphydublin · 03-01-2017 10:42AM

Just got a call from a neighbour . The front win dow has now been put in. I'm 5 hours away and need to get back but cant put my children in that house. I feel so helpless

murphydublin · 03-01-2017 10:43AM

GLaDOS wrote: »

Have you gone down to the guards in person? They mightnt be as quick to fob you off that way.

Yes we took my son there on new years day to make a statement. They said they will be in touch ......

jennyhayes123 · 03-01-2017 10:45AM

I have no advice but am thinking of you since I read your thread earlier this morning. It's an absolute disgrace. Bullying is the worst thing you can do to any person and to do this to not only a child but a whole family is a disgrace. I would be ashamed to have raised a scumbag. Chances are the parents are no better. Some people should be put down.

L.Jenkins · 03-01-2017 10:47AM

murphydublin wrote: »

Just got a call from a neighbour . The front win dow has now been put in. I'm 5 hours away and need to get back but cant put my children in that house. I feel so helpless

murphydublin wrote: »

Yes we took my son there on new years day to make a statement. They said they will be in touch ......

That sort of craic isn't on. No family should have to live in fear in their own home. So I would be inclined to go over the heads of the Gardai where possible and speak with the Garda Ombudsman and local TDs. Would you consider a community effort with neighbours to resolve this in a non-violent manner? I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate this sort of carry on around their own homes either.

andekwarhola · 03-01-2017 10:47AM

Don't bother approaching the parents. The little cnuts obviously didn't lick it off a stone.

L.Jenkins · 03-01-2017 11:02AM

andekwarhola wrote: »

Don't bother approaching the parents. The little cnuts obviously didn't lick it off a stone.

I would say, if the OP does approach these hooligans parents, do so as a group with Neighbours. Strength in numbers, especially with the Gardai, in order to be taken seriously.

sullivk · 03-01-2017 11:08AM

This is just shocking, I can't believe the Gardai are doing nothing about it. I firmly believe that people who shout loudest get what they want. Go to the station and refuse to leave until something is done about it.
I would make a log of every little incident and phone the Gardai for each and every one. Be an absolute thorn in their side until they take some action. Call the local newspapers, TDs etc. And xplain how you've been fobbed off.

I wouldn't bother approaching the parents as likelihood is they are not much different than the kids they are rearing. Even if they are decent people, it sounds like they have no control over these little sh!ts...

I am fuming just reading this thread, I feel so sorry for you and your family OP. Nobody should have to put up with this behaviour

r93kaey5p2izun · 03-01-2017 11:08AM

My sympathy OP. Been there, done that. I wouldn't rely much on garda assistance unfortunately. But based on your location in previous posts you are between two garda stations - based on experience, deal with the one in "rougher" area if you understand me. The other one will never have a car, won't respond even to an active incident, isn't interested. The "rougher" one is better. Try the community liaison garda but don't be too hopeful.

Contact local councillors and if any of the culprits are council tenants then make a complaint to them. Don't bother dealing with the families they will just laugh at you or will pretend to care then laugh when you're gone.

team_actimel · 03-01-2017 11:12AM

L.Jenkins wrote: »

I would say, if the OP does approach these hooligans parents, do so as a group with Neighbours. Strength in numbers, especially with the Gardai, in order to be taken seriously.

+1. Have the neighbours rang the Gardaí at all? I'm sure they're fearful too. It's likely they would have witnessed a few of the incidents and heard your window being put in, etc.

Terrorised in our own home

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