Do you have or want a dishwasher?

osarusan wrote: »

Don't have or want.

Have a tumble dryer that I don't want either. We put the warranty/instructions into the drum and they are still there.

Swap you a broken PS2 for the tumble dryer?

KERSPLAT! wrote: »

Boxers in for 3-5 minutes on a cold winters morning... The stuff of dreams.

(Puzzled frown) To lick plates?

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JustAThought wrote: »

Be clean & save the planet! Boil a kettle, wash your plates in sparking clean boiling water, be finished in ten minutes, enjoy the peace & calm!

Unless you are washing the dishes in cold water (which you are clearly not doing) then the above is bull.

It is more environmentally friendly to use dishwasher. Less electricity, less water.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/green-living-blog/2010/aug/19/carbon-footprints-dishwasher-washing-up?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Dishwasher uses way less water and energy than washing by hand. The amount of water involved in modern, A+++ rated machines is absolutely miniscule. You're talking a couple of kettle fulls to do a massive amount of dishes and they're almost totally silent. I can't even tell if my dishwasher is on. The fridge and the clock make more noise!

If youve a noisy dishwasher, you've clearly got a bad one.

Wouldn't be without one.

Also just use Aldi Dishwsher tablets.
It's extremely good and very good value.

Or, buy whatever of the main brands is on specifical offer.

Often the Quantum Tablets etc are just stupidly expensive without any advantage to them at all other than a good voice over in the advert.

Found most of the store brand laundry products are absolutely excellent too. We are all kidding ourselves with the big brands and buying into nonsense.

It must be an incredibly bad dishwasher, or being operated by someone who puts plates with all the leftovers still on them straight into it.

You scrape your plates removing things like pork chops, steaks and entire spuds before you put them in!

The majority of dishwashers have a filter that is largely self cleaning. They're normally a flat coarse grid that leads into a chamber with cylindrical or cone shaped filter with several layers of grills that get progressive finer as you move through it.

When the machine is washing the water is drawn through all the filtration layers removing debris.

When it empties it flushes the water downwards over the filter surfaces and straight down the drain. That will remove small debris like food particles, bits of rice, peas, beans, bits of cake, the odd cornflake etc ...

You have to scrape dishes before you put them in but you have to do that if you're hand washing too. You don't just put all the leftovers straight into the sink... Well unless you're making some kind of dishwater soup...

If the plates are roughly scraped and you're not putting the odd full salad in, a good dishwasher will not have anything in the self cleaning filter. You just need to check it every few weeks and give it a bit of a rinse.

A dishwasher isn't a garbage disposal.

Also you just put in 1 dishwasher tablet any more than your kitchen sink is.

If you're in a hard water area they've a very environmentally friendly ion exchange filter which is reset by flushing it with a salt water solution. The salt is just large crystals of salt. The filter us similar to a Brita filter other than its replenished every so often by swapping the magnesium and calcium ions for sodium ones.

All you gave to do is fill a salt reservoir. This prevents lime scale entirely.

Top end machines like Miele even have the reservoir on the door so you don't even have to bend to access it.

In a soft water area this is usually totally unnecessary and the dishwasher tablets will do the job entirely.

Rinse aid is also totally optional. Most detergents include ingredients to shine the dishes anyway.

Normally you just

1 scrape dishes roughly into bin.
2 put then into dishwasher
3 fling tablet into dispenser and close little lid
4 press start
5 go do something other than contemplate dishes.
6 take dishes out and use them.

It's really not very complicated.

Our one is fairly high end and can do a high intensity wash in about an hour. Most take longer tho but mostly you simply don't really stand there waiting for it to finish. It just does the dishes while you're doing something more important.

Mostly down to lowest common denominator warnings for very old / bad dishwashers.

A lot of the old ones used exposed grill like elements to heat water and dry dishes. If you put plastic in the bottom it would melt and glasses used to shatter.

Also old dishwasher detergent was full of bleach and used to do a lot of damage to painted patterns and so on.

Modern dishwashers use encapsulated heaters so both baskets are completely safe. It's more like an electric shower - water is heated as it's pumped through.

The modern detergents just use a lot mor me enzymes and better surfactants and so on. They use a little peroxide type bleach too. Old stuff used to smell like Domestos and your coloured dishes eventually faded.

Some plates etc will say unsuitable for dishwashers but in realty that's just to avoid claims if someone uses some old machine or old style bleach detergent.

Those old machines got them a bad reputation for damaging delicate items.

Chuchote wrote: »

Except for dishes with gold edges, I think?

They're possibly even grand with the right detergent and using a delicates cycle.

Just had 12 for dinner. Everything popped into the dishwasher afterwards and we went to the sitting room for some card games. All gone home now and no cleaning up to be done.