toddler legally allowed to use Cannabis

lertsnim wrote: »

Can we cut the bollocks and now legalise this for everyone whose life would improve with it.

Yep let's just forget everything we know about that so-called bollocks AKA evidence-based medicine.

TallGlass wrote: »

Imagine how effective cannabis as drug would-be if people would stop been so fúcking ignorant.

My guess, it's use as a base for other medicines. This and other drug combinations, might end some serious conditions.

No, it simply won't. At the best it may be useful in alleviating symptoms (e.g., pain relief, anti-tremor, etc). Which is good, but it isn't the magic cure-all many believe it to be.

Kareem Slimy Scabies wrote: »

My brother's epileptic seizures (he had 100+ petit mal absences a day as an infant) were brought under control for over a decade with the Ketogenic diet thanks to my incredibly committed parents. Now that he's a teenager, the diet is becoming less effective and he's started having quite severe seizures at night again. We would love to talk to somebody who knows more about the treatment in the OP and how to access it. The anti-convulsant drugs we've managed to avoid for so long are changing the happy lad I knew into a cranky, unpredictable person and only barely staving off the actual fits. It's heartbreaking.

I'm sorry if what I've highlighted sounds flippant but there's no more evidence for it than what you've claimed.

No matter what treatment (whether that is traditional anti-epileptic drugs or cannabis-based) there will generally be a trade-off between efficacy and undesirable side-effects. Cannabis as a treatment for epilepsy has been proposed for many many years but there is a dearth of evidence in properly controlled studies. If you want information tell your parents/brother to talk to your GP and consultant neurologist. Ask for a second opinion as well.

pragmatic1 wrote: »

As for alcohol, that's right up there with heroin, crack and meth in terms of abuse to the body and addiction potential. It would never be legal if it was a new drug. It's physically worse on the body than the hardest of drugs.

So there's a hypocritical and irrational view we have when it comes to drug policy and it's done so much harm worldwide that it can't be ignored for much longer.

I'd rank heroin as less physiologically damaging than alcohol as a drug (but obviously more addictive). However it's the addiction part (and also it's legal status) that results indirectly in the worst side-effects of heroin use. Drug policy isn't simply concerned with the physiological effects on the individual but rather the wider social issues surrounding drug use, which tend to be felt more acutely in lower socioeconomic areas.

Of course I would welcome studies to show whether complete prohibition is the most effective use of resources and would broadly support decriminalisation of use of all drugs. However I also am realistic and recognise that this wouldn't be a panacea to all ills caused by drug-use.

In any case arguments pro and anti-legalisation are irrelevant to a thread about the use of cannabis as a medical product. Alas, it is reflective of a general trend where "experts" and "evidence" are eschewed in favour of "personal opinion" "emotion" and "catchy slogans".

Jimoslimos wrote: »

I'd rank heroin as less physiologically damaging than alcohol as a drug (but obviously more addictive). However it's the addiction part (and also it's legal status) that results indirectly in the worst side-effects of heroin use. Drug policy isn't simply concerned with the physiological effects on the individual but rather the wider social issues surrounding drug use, which tend to be felt more acutely in lower socioeconomic areas.

Of course I would welcome studies to show whether complete prohibition is the most effective use of resources and would broadly support decriminalisation of use of all drugs. However I also am realistic and recognise that this wouldn't be a panacea to all ills caused by drug-use.

In any case arguments pro and anti-legalisation are irrelevant to a thread about the use of cannabis as a medical product. Alas, it is reflective of a general trend where "experts" and "evidence" are eschewed in favour of "personal opinion" "emotion" and "catchy slogans".

And you'd be correct in ranking it as less physiologically damaging than alcohol. A pharmacist or toxicologist would be able to confirm this. The issues come with it's legality. It's prescribed for addicts in a few countries at present.

Fact is, and it is a fact, prohibition has been a massive failure. It's completely irrational, and if you look at the historical context of why some drugs have been criminalised, it wasn't due to health concerns.

pragmatic1 wrote: »

What would be wrong with legalising cannabis.

Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome all over the place if lads went nuts with the novelty of it being legalised ?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3576702/

Coinciding with the increasing rates of cannabis abuse has been the recognition of a new clinical condition known as Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome. Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome is characterized by chronic cannabis use, cyclic episodes of nausea and vomiting, and frequent hot bathing. Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome occurs by an unknown mechanism. Despite the well-established anti-emetic properties of marijuana, there is increasing evidence of its paradoxical effects on the gastrointestinal tract and CNS.

Oops. I mis-edited. And can't delete.

jh79 wrote: »

You can't release real medicine on the market and then hope it is effective. If cannabis oil is an option it needs to prove it is safe and effective first not the other way round.

True for NEW "real medicine". Cannabis and its pallative effects are by no means NEW!
Not that she is a great example but Queen Victoria in one famously treated with cannabis.
Yes, do trials, but I think it's positive effects and negitive effects are widely known.

R P McMurphy wrote: »

The oil he would be using would be very high in thc but I imagine is taken by means which avoids any high which is a relatively simple process. CBD is not illegal

It's so simple yet GW Pharmacy hasn't managed to crack it with sativex

A step closer to legalisation, thank God, might stop this stupidity. Best of luck to that little kid and his family. Must be stressful

K.Flyer wrote: »

Primarily because the "medication" is a Cannabis extract which contains high levels of THC.
Anything found to contain THC in Ireland is illegal, as is its possession or use. But because the family have shown it to be beneficial to managing their son's condition, the government have set a precedent and granted them a licence to legally use Cannabis as a medicinal product.

It's great news that it works and works so well but whatever happens that kid and other future patients better not get a little high, be playful, have great appetites, sleep soundly and listen to great music, heaven forbid!

pure.conya wrote: »

Cannabis oil has high levels of whatever was in the cannabis it was extracted from and in the minds of rational people cannabis oil is cannabis

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pure.conya wrote: »

You really need to read up on side effects of using this oil, getting high is a possibility, OMG!

Not when the oil is taken from the Hemp plant,

jh79 wrote: »

How well does it work?

In what % of those with that illness does it work?

Does it work forever? Is it gender or race specific?

How do you know it is safe given thc/ cbd levels are higher than what would normally be consumed?

Where do you get this information?