InTheTrees wrote: » Thts probably because you've been given a strain thats high in THC and very very low in CBD, becsuse those strains generates the most obvious high and so generate the most cash for the illegal dealers. When you buy it from a street dealer you may be getting anything from the equivalent of a glass of whiskey to a pint of shandy, you have no way of knowing, and I dont suppose many of the people in the supply chain have any idea either. The state of the illegal market is like walking into a pub and ordering a pint of "alcohol" with no idea what youre going to get.
lertsnim wrote: » Can we cut the bollocks and now legalise this for everyone whose life would improve with it.
TallGlass wrote: » Imagine how effective cannabis as drug would-be if people would stop been so fúcking ignorant. My guess, it's use as a base for other medicines. This and other drug combinations, might end some serious conditions.
Kareem Slimy Scabies wrote: » My brother's epileptic seizures (he had 100+ petit mal absences a day as an infant) were brought under control for over a decade with the Ketogenic diet thanks to my incredibly committed parents. Now that he's a teenager, the diet is becoming less effective and he's started having quite severe seizures at night again. We would love to talk to somebody who knows more about the treatment in the OP and how to access it. The anti-convulsant drugs we've managed to avoid for so long are changing the happy lad I knew into a cranky, unpredictable person and only barely staving off the actual fits. It's heartbreaking.
pragmatic1 wrote: » As for alcohol, that's right up there with heroin, crack and meth in terms of abuse to the body and addiction potential. It would never be legal if it was a new drug. It's physically worse on the body than the hardest of drugs. So there's a hypocritical and irrational view we have when it comes to drug policy and it's done so much harm worldwide that it can't be ignored for much longer.
Jimoslimos wrote: » Y I'm sorry if what I've highlighted sounds flippant but there's no more evidence for it than what you've claimed. No matter what treatment (whether that is traditional anti-epileptic drugs or cannabis-based) there will generally be a trade-off between efficacy and undesirable side-effects. Cannabis as a treatment for epilepsy has been proposed for many many years but there is a dearth of evidence in properly controlled studies. If you want information tell your parents/brother to talk to your GP and consultant neurologist. Ask for a second opinion as well.
HellSquirrel wrote: » While you're not wrong about a lot of it, I would take a bit of exception to the first bit as it's not really supported by what she said. Sure, being a teenager and being cranky and unpredictable are often related! But she also spoke about how a diet that has worked throughout childhood no longer seems to be staving off the fits and he's seizing badly again at night, which does suggest a more serious issue than teenage hormones.
Jimoslimos wrote: » I'd rank heroin as less physiologically damaging than alcohol as a drug (but obviously more addictive). However it's the addiction part (and also it's legal status) that results indirectly in the worst side-effects of heroin use. Drug policy isn't simply concerned with the physiological effects on the individual but rather the wider social issues surrounding drug use, which tend to be felt more acutely in lower socioeconomic areas. Of course I would welcome studies to show whether complete prohibition is the most effective use of resources and would broadly support decriminalisation of use of all drugs. However I also am realistic and recognise that this wouldn't be a panacea to all ills caused by drug-use. In any case arguments pro and anti-legalisation are irrelevant to a thread about the use of cannabis as a medical product. Alas, it is reflective of a general trend where "experts" and "evidence" are eschewed in favour of "personal opinion" "emotion" and "catchy slogans".
TallGlass wrote: » Even Heroine and Cocaine, I am sure with proper scienceific research and other drug combinations they can cure. We shouldn't be so ignorant because we see what abuse of these drugs can do.
pragmatic1 wrote: » What would be wrong with legalising cannabis.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3576702/ Coinciding with the increasing rates of cannabis abuse has been the recognition of a new clinical condition known as Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome. Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome is characterized by chronic cannabis use, cyclic episodes of nausea and vomiting, and frequent hot bathing. Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome occurs by an unknown mechanism. Despite the well-established anti-emetic properties of marijuana, there is increasing evidence of its paradoxical effects on the gastrointestinal tract and CNS.
Jimoslimos wrote: » Well hormones DO have a massive effect on diet and metabolism and may be one reason for both the mood swings and also why the diet does not appear to be as effective.
HellSquirrel wrote: » Fair point, but if anything, that pretty much just supports her previous statement, that the drugs he's been on so far are no longer as effective, hence the need for a different method of controlling it. Whether the answer is weed or not is up for debate (or would be if it was an allowable option!).
jh79 wrote: » You can't release real medicine on the market and then hope it is effective. If cannabis oil is an option it needs to prove it is safe and effective first not the other way round.
Ellison Greasy Savings wrote: » He gets cannabis oil, not cannabis. Slight difference in the name, massive difference in the product. Oil tends to have high levels of CBD which doesn't get you high. Cannabis can have high levels of THC which is where the high and anxiety come from. So why would anybody be against giving this kid cannabis oil? Ignorance i'd say. Also, OP, what's your opinion? Boards is not a news dump.
R P McMurphy wrote: » The oil he would be using would be very high in thc but I imagine is taken by means which avoids any high which is a relatively simple process. CBD is not illegal
Dick phelan wrote: » i'd honestly question the intelligence of anyone who is against this it's life changing medical treatment hardly the same as someone buying a 50 bag and rolling a spliff.
R P McMurphy wrote: » Jaysus do I have to spell it out. You put the oil in a capsule. This allows people to consume oil without any of the side effects traditionally accociated with cannibas by taking it as a suppository
K.Flyer wrote: » Primarily because the "medication" is a Cannabis extract which contains high levels of THC. Anything found to contain THC in Ireland is illegal, as is its possession or use. But because the family have shown it to be beneficial to managing their son's condition, the government have set a precedent and granted them a licence to legally use Cannabis as a medicinal product.
_Kaiser_ wrote: » Aaaaaand once again we have some people trying to use this story as a reason to legalise cannabis for recreational use. As others have said, this is a different product (cannabis oil) with a very different intent (stop the poor little fella having multiple seizures per day, rather than getting high) and in the context of that, I can't see why anyone would have a problem with it. But it's not the same as letting the "cool kids" get high. Not at all.
pure.conya wrote: » Cannabis oil has high levels of whatever was in the cannabis it was extracted from and in the minds of rational people cannabis oil is cannabis
SixSixSix wrote: » True for NEW "real medicine". Cannabis and its pallative effects are by no means NEW! Not that she is a great example but Queen Victoria in one famously treated with cannabis. Yes, do trials, but I think it's positive effects and negitive effects are widely known.
pure.conya wrote: » You really need to read up on side effects of using this oil, getting high is a possibility, OMG!
pure.conya wrote: » It's great news that it works and works so well but whatever happens that kid and other future patients better not get a little high, be playful, have great appetites, sleep soundly and listen to great music, heaven forbid!
jh79 wrote: » How well does it work? In what % of those with that illness does it work? Does it work forever? Is it gender or race specific? How do you know it is safe given thc/ cbd levels are higher than what would normally be consumed?
pure.conya wrote: » You are patently wrong, in fact taking pretty much anything anally increases its potency as less chemicals are lost to digestion and stomach acid
mulbot wrote: » Where do you get this information?
jh79 wrote: » Am i wrong?
mulbot wrote: » Yes
jh79 wrote: » And this is a major reason, ie bioavailability , why herbal remedies incl. weed don't work
mulbot wrote: » Have you anything to prove this?
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