El Presidente Trump

RobertKK · 23-12-2016 05:34PM

Israel has accused Obama and his administration of abandoning Israel in a "shameful move".

Israel dislikes the Obama administration so much they rang Trump about a UN resolution to stop Israel building new settlements in the West Bank.
Trump then rang the Egyptian president who were behind the resolution and they postponed it after chatting to Trump.

The Palestinians have also criticised the Obama administration for being so ineffective in Israel/Palestinian matters.

Meanwhile Putin sent Trump a letter, which Trump released to the public.
"I hope that after you assume the position of the President of the United States of America we will be able – by acting in a constructive and pragmatic manner - to take real steps to restore the framework of bilateral cooperation in different areas as well as bring our level of collaboration on the international scene to a qualitatively new level,"

tomwaterford · 23-12-2016 05:54PM

InTheTrees wrote: »

Democracy would be one person one vote. The electoral college rules awarded trump the presidency.

Clinton got almost three million more votes than trump so the people actually did want her.

This is somewhat invalid....if shoe was on other foot....she wouldn't be complaining

Don't enter a competition and complain on the rules after

skankkuvhima · 23-12-2016 05:59PM

"InTheTrees wrote:

Democracy would be one person one vote.

Ah yes, democracy.

The term "democracy" first appeared in ancient Greek political and philosophical thought in the city-state of Athens. Athenian democracy took the form of a direct democracy. All eligible citizens were allowed to speak and vote in the assembly, which set the laws of the city state. However, Athenian citizenship excluded women.

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 06:15PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

This here is another example of pure waffle that has literally nothing to do with the post that it quotes. Again, the Trumpites can't defend the shambles of a man that he is, so they resort to "but but Clinton".

Try reading the post again, you'll see he was addressing someone who had discussed both Hillary and Donald in theirs.

Skylinehead · 23-12-2016 06:21PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Try reading the post again, you'll see he was addressing someone who had discussed both Hillary and Donald in theirs.

Yeah, discussing the same diversion that I mentioned. Brian went on some rant about immigration and Clinton that was out of nowhere.

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 06:27PM

InTheTrees wrote: »

Democracy would be one person one vote. The electoral college rules awarded trump the presidency.

Clinton got almost three million more votes than trump so the people actually did want her.

It's a republic. Donald won far more states than Hillary. States are weighted for two things - for the population, but also that each state us equal.
Starbucks supping Californians have 55 seats. A quarter if Hillary's college electors from one state. Arizonn have 11. Alaska 3 and so on.
States elect the president, not people. It's not a system I love, but It's kept Soros' and Sutherland's toys out for a little while, and a dick head like Trump is a price worth paying for that imo.

If Hillary is so sure Donald won by fraud, why doesn't she order a recount, like what won Bush Jr the presidency? I mean if it's that close....
Could it be the amount of fraud they'd root out of the Republicans would be completely overshadowed by the mountain the DNC are sitting on?

You can have the most chess pieces in your possession and still lose the game.

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 06:32PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

Yeah, discussing the same diversion that I mentioned. Brian went on some rant about immigration and Clinton that was out of nowhere.

Obama inherited a mess left by bush, and co. Trump has inherited a mess left by Obama and co. Hillary was part of that company and the actions of both her and Obama are going to be in light while the Gob either succeeds or fails to deal with their repercussions.

Skylinehead · 23-12-2016 06:38PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Obama inherited a mess left by bush, and co. Trump has inherited a mess left by Obama and co. Hillary was part of that company and the actions of both her and Obama are going to be in light while the Gob either succeeds or fails to deal with their repercussions.

Are you trying to be ironic or something? This also has nothing to do with what I said :pac:

ToddyDoody · 23-12-2016 06:39PM

Even when he is president, Mr. Trump seems more appropriate.

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 06:43PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

Are you trying to be ironic or something? This also has nothing to do with what I said :pac:

I'm nowhere near hipster enough to know

Skommando · 23-12-2016 06:47PM

Billy86 wrote: »

No, it didn't. I've already spelled out what got Trump in power and just like all my other points you've been entirely unable to counter it. As predictably as ever, you're just falling back on one of the most recently iterated parroting points, even though it makes no sense in the context of this debate, just like complaining about him being misquoted when asked to give your opinion on his nukes comment, taken directly from his own Twitter account. You don't want to be talked with, you made that perfectly clear already with your childish "I have am opinion buy I'm not telling you what it is" remark.

Against everything, but for nothing, because it doesn't ask you to put any courage behind your convictions. Predictable.

when I see any point that's not ad hominem and worth countering I will, in the meantime, keep on hating, and keep on loosing, and keep on having your monologue, it suits me fine.

InTheTrees · 23-12-2016 06:49PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

You can have the most chess pieces in your possession and still lose the game.

Yes, exactly. Spot on. Correct. Trump won by the rules, fair and square. No problem there. He's the next president.

However I was responding to someone who claimed "the people" didn't want Clinton. But that's not true is it?

kupus · 23-12-2016 06:52PM

My foundation in Tirana is monitoring the situation closely and can provide independent analysis of the crisis.

Thank you,

George Soros

Whats that George? Is that the same foundation that facilitated the breakaway of Kosovo. Huh?
The same foundation that facilitated and agitated for the breakup of Yugoslavia, since the day Tito died. Huh?
Is this the same foundation that said Sudan should be split into two.
Are you funding all these liberal foundations yourself George just so you can swoop in after and cherry pick the best deals from broken countries.

Howbout, you goan**** yourself George
Signed
The Donald.

^^Now that's a wikileak I'd love to see.

Billy86 · 23-12-2016 06:54PM

Skommando wrote: »

when I see any truthful point worth countering I will, in the meantime, keep on hating, and keep on loosing, it suits me.

So you're saying it was a lie that Trump tweeted what he did, and despite it being posted on this thread multiple times it never happened.

And you're saying it's a lie that you said you have an opinion on that tweet (the tweet that seemingly never existed) but refuse to share it.

Like I said, it's all rather cowardly, but predictable. You're afraid to share your opinion or to go into any detail on what you want from Trump's presidency because you don't have the courage to stand for what you believe in and have it challenged, it's as simple as that and clear for all to see.

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 06:55PM

InTheTrees wrote: »

Yes, exactly. Spot on. Correct. Trump won by the rules, fair and square. No problem there. He's the next president.

However I was responding to someone who claimed "the people" didn't want Clinton. But that's not true is it?

Of course not. Apparently three million more people want Hillary than want Trump.
I just happened to A: disagree with them, and B: believe they had no business voting in a country in which they undercut legal migrants by illegally getting into.

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 06:57PM

kupus wrote: »

My foundation in Tirana is monitoring the situation closely and can provide independent analysis of the crisis.

Thank you,

George Soros

Whats that George? Is that the same foundation that facilitated the breakaway of Kosovo. Huh?
The same foundation that facilitated and agitated for the breakup of Yugoslavia, since the day Tito died. Huh?
Is this the same foundation that said Sudan should be split into two.
Are you funding all these liberal foundations yourself George just so you can swoop in after and cherry pick the best deals from broken countries.

Howbout, you goan**** yourself George
Signed
The Donald.

Huh, I wonder who got the oily bits :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

He's also the man who broke the British bank and destroyed millions if lives across Asia by severely exacerbating a financial crisis for his own gain.

He hates Trump because he's offensive and I'm expected to agree eith him?

Billy86 · 23-12-2016 06:58PM

Skommando wrote: »

when I see any point that's not ad hominem and worth countering I will, in the meantime, keep on hating, and keep on loosing, and keep on having your monologue, it suits me fine.

I see you've gone and edited your post, so feel free to answer this then - the question that was asked in the first place.

"Would be fascinated to know what Skommando and others think about Trump's warmongering words (to user the standard Trump fans set out in the election) over nuclear weapons today, if they could get off the buzzword touting deflection technique for just a brief moment."

Skommando · 23-12-2016 06:58PM

Billy86 wrote: »

So you're saying it was a lie that Trump tweeted what he did, and despite it being posted on this thread multiple times it never happened.

And you're saying it's a lie that you said you have an opinion on that tweet (the tweet that seemingly never existed) but refuse to share it.

Like I said, it's all rather cowardly, but predictable. You're afraid to share your opinion or to go into any detail on what you want from Trump's presidency because you don't have the courage to stand for what you believe in and have it challenged, it's as simple as that and clear for all to see.

Keep on pretending, keep on burning up, it suits me just fine.

Billy86 · 23-12-2016 06:59PM

Skommando wrote: »

Keep on pretending, keep on burning up, it suits me just fine.

Nah you're the one pretending Trump didn't Tweet what he tweeted, cheers.

But feel free to keep on proving my point for me - you're for nothing, against everything, and have zero courage of conviction. Predictable.

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 07:01PM

kupus wrote: »

^^Now that's a wikileak I'd love to see.

Unlikely. I don't know. I'm starting to wonder if Julian is even among us, tbh

ebbsy · 23-12-2016 07:02PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

InTheTrees wrote: »

Yes, exactly. Spot on. Correct. Trump won by the rules, fair and square. No problem there. He's the next president.

However I was responding to someone who claimed "the people" didn't want Clinton. But that's not true is it?

Of course not. Apparently three million more people want Hillary than want Trump.
I just happened to A: disagree with them, and B: believe they had no business voting in a country in which they undercut legal migrants by illegally getting into.

Don't worry bud they don't just get it. As far as the Democrats go the wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.

Skommando · 23-12-2016 07:06PM

Billy86 wrote: »

Nah you're the one pretending Trump didn't Tweet what he tweeted, cheers.

But feel free to keep on proving my point for me - you're for nothing, against everything, and have zero courage of conviction. Predictable.

Keep on hating, keep on pretending, keep on being hysterical, keep on burning up, meanwhile . . . looking forward to the big day . . .

Friday, January 20, 2017

The inauguration of the the 45th President of the United States

Happy new year everyone !

InTheTrees · 23-12-2016 07:10PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

I just happened to believe they had no business voting in a country in which they undercut legal migrants by illegally getting into.

Except you're unable to back up your theory with any evidence which makes it nonsense really.

Billy86 · 23-12-2016 07:11PM

Skommando wrote: »

Keep on hating, keep on pretending, keep on being hysterical, keep on burning up, meanwhile . . . looking forward to the big day . . .

Friday, January 20, 2017

The inauguration of the the 45th President of the United States

Again, I'm not the one trying to pretend to themselves that Trump didn't tweet what he tweeted - that would be you.

Don't worry, I'm not disputing that and haven't been since Nov 9th. I've just repeatedly asked you what you expect to happen in the four years following that day - and you've repeatedly proven that you're afraid to pass any comment on it.

Would love you to quote where I'm being hysterical, by the way. Here, I'll grab the definition for ya: affected by or deriving from wildly uncontrolled emotion.

And while I'm at it, I'll throw out the definition of cowardly, too: a person who is contemptibly lacking in the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things. (such as opening their beliefs to be challenged in public).

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 07:16PM

InTheTrees wrote: »

Except you're unable to back up your theory with any evidence which makes it nonsense really.

12 million undocumented immigrants.

I'd safely call at least 8 of them "old enough looking to vote".

Trump straight up threatened them - whether or not he was talking out his arse was irrelevant.

Many states do not require ID, particularly ones with huge immigrant populations like California.
Because apparently "ID is racist"....

I'm genuinely confused how you reckon this didn't happen. You're illegally in a country, in which you can vote against the person threatening to kick you out and you don't?

Now that's nonsense.

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 07:29PM

ebbsy wrote: »

Don't worry bud they don't just get it. As far as the Democrats go the wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.

If I had been in America on a work visa I'd been overstaying sins 2004, the very last thing I'd do is vote Trump. I'd travel whatever way I could to the nearest ID-less station and put my mark next to Hillary.

Same if I was an employer relying on temp visa holders to circumvent obligations to full tine staff.

InTheTrees · 23-12-2016 07:35PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

I'd travel whatever way I could to the nearest ID-less station and put my mark next to Hillary.

It seems like you're under the impression that if a state doesn't require id when you vote then just anyone can show up and vote regardless of voter rolls or registration or residency?

InTheTrees · 23-12-2016 07:39PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

I'm genuinely confused how you reckon this didn't happen. You're illegally in a country, in which you can vote against the person threatening to kick you out and you don't?

Now that's nonsense.

Nonsense would be thinking you can vote without being on the rolls.

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 07:52PM

InTheTrees wrote: »

It seems like you're under the impression that if a state doesn't require id when you vote then just anyone can show up and vote regardless of voter rolls or registration or residency?

And it seems you're under the impression these aren't a lot easier to falsify/circumvent than identification papers.
It was even explained by the associates of the DNC on video, who were later thrown under the bus to save the DNCs skin "fired, because that's not how we at the DNC do business", how to do it.

KingBrian2 · 23-12-2016 08:19PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

This here is another example of pure waffle that has literally nothing to do with the post that it quotes. Again, the Trumpites can't defend the shambles of a man that he is, so they resort to "but but Clinton".

What I was pointing out is that the lovers of the Democrats close their eyes to corruption when a Democrat commits it but when a Republican is corrupt the media demonize and distort. True Direct Democracy ala Bernie Sanders would have been pushing for even more extreme policies which no one in Washington was willing to listen to. The campaign was hijacked by extremists on both sides.

El Presidente Trump

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