El Presidente Trump

bnt · 22-12-2016 11:20PM

Igotadose wrote: »

FFS. Did it really call them 'nukes?' Is it pointless for me to wonder when he's going to take this job seriously?

Well, how else is he going to establish a comprehensive US Defense strategy in 140 characters? Something's got to give ...

InTheTrees · 23-12-2016 12:21AM

Skommando wrote: »

nothing is out of order for the hysterical liberal PC nazi's who hate democratic results and are now left foaming at the mouth, instead of learning the lessons as to why so many people voted for Trump

Well technically the "democratic result" would be the peoples vote right? As opposed to the electoral college result which is not.

So if you like "democratic results" then Clinton receiving almost three million more votes than trump would make her the peoples choice right?

Skommando · 23-12-2016 12:24AM

InTheTrees wrote: »

Well technically the "democratic result" would be the peoples vote right? As opposed to the electoral college result which is not.

So if you like "democratic results" then Clinton receiving almost three million more votes than trump would make her the peoples choice right?

The USA is a world leader in democracy, kind of ironic how the losers now complain about it's system. If you don't like the system, change it, but that'll have to be democratic change, and you might not like that outcome either.

InTheTrees · 23-12-2016 12:29AM

Skommando wrote: »

The USA is a world leader in democracy, kind of ironic how the losers now complain about it's system. If you don't like the system, change it, but that'll have to be democratic change, and you might not like that outcome either.

Who's complaining? The method of selecting a president is not democratic.

Trump won the presidency, Clinton won the peoples vote. End of story. Next election is in four years.

Its pointless whining about people drawing attention to trump losing the popular vote.

Skommando · 23-12-2016 12:33AM

InTheTrees wrote: »

Who's complaining? The method of selecting a president is not democratic.

Trump won the presidency, Clinton won the peoples vote. End of story. Next election is in four years.

Its pointless whining about people drawing attention to trump losing the popular vote.

I'm not the one whining about the result of an election in country that is the world leader of democracy, you are.

Billy86 · 23-12-2016 12:47AM

Would be fascinated to know what Skommando and others think about Trump's warmongering words (to user the standard Trump fans set out in the election) over nuclear weapons today, if they could get off the buzzword touting deflection technique for just a brief moment.

Failing that (I mean, let's be realists here...) it would be interesting to know what quantifiable barometers make the US "the world leader in democracy" as opposed to "a democracy" (this is actually as much, if not more of a republic).

captbarnacles · 23-12-2016 12:53AM

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/11/15/trumps-flip-flop-on-the-electoral-college-from-disaster-to-genius/?client=ms-alps-full_rlk6580_we_c_m-ie

Typical liberal bias accurately reporting his words. Shame.

InTheTrees · 23-12-2016 12:57AM

Skommando wrote: »

nothing is out of order for the hysterical liberal PC nazi's who hate democratic results and are now left foaming at the mouth, instead of learning the lessons as to why so many people voted for Trump

Skommando wrote: »

The USA is a world leader in democracy, kind of ironic how the losers now complain about it's system. If you don't like the system, change it, but that'll have to be democratic change, and you might not like that outcome either.

Skommando wrote: »

I'm not the one whining about the result of an election in country that is the world leader of democracy, you are.

I was only ever responding to your whining.

:rolleyes:

Skommando · 23-12-2016 01:15AM

Billy86 wrote: »

Would be fascinated to know what Skommando and others think about Trump's warmongering words (to user the standard Trump fans set out in the election) over nuclear weapons today, if they could get off the buzzword touting deflection technique for just a brief moment.

Failing that (I mean, let's be realists here...) it would be interesting to know what quantifiable barometers make the US "the world leader in democracy" as opposed to "a democracy" (this is actually as much, if not more of a republic).

You would be fascinated ? Like your visiting animals in the zoo.

Maybe if yourself and the media genuinely talked to people, instead of talking over them and at them in such a patronising fashion, and with many, including the media, acting hysterical, trying to skew and misrepresent and misquote everything at every opportunity, yourself and the western media might learn the lessons of why so many people voted for/ sided for the likes of trump, many of whom including myself were so hopeful about Obama, that he would actually bring the real change and hope he promised for ordinary people.

Billy86 · 23-12-2016 01:21AM

Skommando wrote: »

You would be fascinated ? Like visiting animals in the zoo.

Maybe if yourself and the media genuinely talked to people, instead of talking over them and at them, and with many, including the media, acting hysterical, trying to skew and misrepresent and misquote everything at every opportunity, yourself and the western media might learn the lessons of why so many people voted for/ sided for the likes of trump, many of whom including myself were so hopeful about Obama, that he would be real change for ordinary people.

So it turns out when I said "Failing that (I mean, let's be realists here...)" I was 100% correct. You don't want to talk about Trump's eagerness for nukes. Maybe he was misquoted by himself on his own Twitter account. Yeah, that must have been it.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/811977223326625792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Nice try on the "quick, deflect to media and Obama!" one by the way, but it's tired and predictable. As is your being unable to comment on the Trump tweet above, directly from his own Twitter account that is misrepresenting and biased against itself, or something.

So, any opinion on it? No?

Skommando · 23-12-2016 01:22AM

Billy86 wrote: »

So, any opinion on it? No?

As I suspected.

I have indeed, especially on nuclear, but as I said, I'm not interested in being talked at or patronised, so you can stay ignorant of why.

Billy86 · 23-12-2016 01:23AM

Skommando wrote: »

I have indeed, but as I said, I'm not interested in being talked at or patronised, so you can stay ignorant of why.

So, that's a no then. "I have an answer but I'm not telling you" is, shocking as this might sound, not actually an answer at all.

Skommando · 23-12-2016 01:24AM

Billy86 wrote: »

So, that's a no then. "I have an answer but I'm not telling you" is, shocking as this might sound, not actually an answer at all.

I'm afraid that's your loss and those like you, not mine, and then your mystified when so many vote for Trump.

Billy86 · 23-12-2016 01:28AM

Skommando wrote: »

I'm afraid that's your loss and those like you, not mine

No mystification as to the Trump vote here thanks, just a large number of rust belters who got sold a con, Republicans who would vote for anything with an (R) in the title, and then the alt right who stand for nothing.

No, it's really not, it just shows you up for what you are. I posted this in a different thread earlier and it's perfectly applicable in this instance (and seems to be applicable almost daily among the alt right Trumpeteers on here).

Billy86 wrote: »

There's a reason about 95% of alt-right Trumpeteers don't want to talk about him, his appointments, or what they expect from him - two actually. One, many of them are more or less actually for nothing, just against whatever they can think of (it's always easier to criticise than offer an alternative) and because of this, they're worried that if they put an expectation on him and he doesn't live up to it, it will hurt their essentially "anti everything" stance. And two, a lot of them simply parrot the latest headline they've read from the same, predictable sources.

Those outlets are playing the cards close to their chest about what their expectations are - most likely so they can call it a 'great success' if he builds a full scale wall as promised, or a 'great success' if he makes no headway at all into building any form of structure (and the same for all Trump's policies etc) - and so their parroting Trumpeteers are decidedly quiet on nearly all of it and instead still in full on 'BUT BUT BUT... BUT HILLARY!' mode until further update.

It's all rather cowardly, really. But expected.

Skommando · 23-12-2016 01:41AM

Billy86 wrote: »

No mystification as to the Trump vote here thanks, just a large number of rust belters who got sold a con, Republicans who would vote for anything with an (R) in the title, and then the alt right who stand for nothing.

No, it's really not, it just shows you up for what you are. I posted this in a different thread earlier and it's perfectly applicable in this instance (and seems to be applicable almost daily among the alt right Trumpeteers on here).

And you just keep on proving over and over the failure is due to continually talking over and at people instead of to them.

keep on pretending, and keep on failing . . . but that very pretence backfired trump into power . . .

Billy86 · 23-12-2016 01:49AM

Skommando wrote: »

And you just keep on proving over and over the failure is due to talking over and at people instead of to them.

keep on pretending, but that very pretence backfired trump into power . . .

No, it didn't. I've already spelled out what got Trump in power and just like all my other points you've been entirely unable to counter it. As predictably as ever, you're just falling back on one of the most recently iterated parroting points, even though it makes no sense in the context of this debate, just like complaining about him being misquoted when asked to give your opinion on his nukes comment, taken directly from his own Twitter account. You don't want to be talked with, you made that perfectly clear already with your childish "I have am opinion buy I'm not telling you what it is" remark.

Against everything, but for nothing, because it doesn't ask you to put any courage behind your convictions. Predictable.

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 01:52AM

Igotadose wrote: »

Hey, trumplodytes...

Legitimately laughed out loud, that's actually one of the better ones

Igotadose wrote: »

remind me again how Hilary would've been worse at this? The US can't expand its capacity because she sold all the Uranium to Russia, right? Oh wait... maybe that was just... a Republican squawking point, also known as a lie.

You reckon? What about the spike in Russian donations to the foundation - I mean these total supervillians were hardly throwing money an anything with charitable causes in mind.....

Or the phone call from Putin to Bill congratulating him on his speech to the Kremlin? If the Russians are as dangerous as it's said they are, deyun tank de sweet baby lawd Jesus the lady helping facilitate the transfer of Uranium rights towards companies with clear ties to Russian interests didn't get into a position where she'd encourage them to use them.

Because they'd already have all the cards :pac:

osarusan wrote: »

This sh!t is out of order though.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38409836

Meh, comes with the job. Dumb move, but they're going to have to make peace with moves far dumber in future, of that I'm sure...

Igotadose · 23-12-2016 08:53AM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Because they'd already have all the cards :pac:

I suppose I should've used some emoticons as I was attempting some sarcasm there.

Nor do I want to rehash who was lied about doing what.

Trump's the President. You o.k. with his Nuke tweet, then? Calling them nukes is a trivialization. I'd say 'below the POTUS' but nothing's below this clown, he's an advocate for sexual assault, a thinly veiled racist, a bloated fat blob and frankly just not smart enough to hold down the job. Hopefully as his minor-league doctor said, "If something happens to him, then it happens to him,”

ebbsy · 23-12-2016 09:32AM

Would people please stop having a cry about the method of choosing the President. It makes ye look weak and deluded.

ebbsy · 23-12-2016 09:38AM

Skommando wrote: »

Billy86 wrote: »

So, that's a no then. "I have an answer but I'm not telling you" is, shocking as this might sound, not actually an answer at all.

I'm afraid that's your loss and those like you, not mine, and then your mystified when so many vote for Trump.

+1

They don't want to know why they lost (arrogance delusion sanders etc) and will get the same result in 4 years time. Hopefully.

Jelle1880 · 23-12-2016 09:52AM

I absolutely love the fact the Trump fans in here don't like it when people talk down to them.

I mean, apparently during the campaign it was perfectly fine to **** all over Hillary voters, but now it happens to them people should stop it :pac:

Get used to it, it's gonna keep happening for the next few years. And if you don't like it, maybe there's safe spaces you can go to.

R P McMurphy · 23-12-2016 10:20AM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I absolutely love the fact the Trump fans in here don't like it when people talk down to them.

I mean, apparently during the campaign it was perfectly fine to **** all over Hillary voters, but now it happens to them people should stop it :pac:

Get used to it, it's gonna keep happening for the next few years. And if you don't like it, maybe there's safe spaces you can go to.

They could always try to make the theatres great again and then use them as safe spaces

Renegade Mechanic · 23-12-2016 10:26AM

Igotadose wrote: »

I suppose I should've used some emoticons as I was attempting some sarcasm there.

Nor do I want to rehash who was lied about doing what.

Trump's the President. You o.k. with his Nuke tweet, then? Calling them nukes is a trivialization. I'd say 'below the POTUS' but nothing's below this clown, he's an advocate for sexual assault, a thinly veiled racist, a bloated fat blob and frankly just not smart enough to hold down the job. Hopefully as his minor-league doctor said, "If something happens to him, then it happens to him,”

Perfectly ok tbh. He might be the most powerful man in the world world according to some, but me? I can't shake things like the fact that he has to make an appointment to see the Fed, just like Obama.
Most powerful man in the world told to **** off and wait like a pleb at the "DMV"...

He's got power, but I can promise you can rest easy if you think he's close to having it all

Just look at the US market growth since the election. It absolutely stinks of the establishment flexing their muscle and showing their control over the markets (the Lord giveth.......) There is absolutely no reason for them to have grown like they have.

Trent Houseboat · 23-12-2016 11:01AM

Does anybody think Donald's unwillingness to accept that he's the minority president elect is rooted in his dislike of minorities?

kupus · 23-12-2016 11:23AM

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/north-america/oh-my-god-this-is-a-nightmare-passenger-removed-from-flight-after-confrontation-with-ivanka-trump-35316716.html

Ivanka and Jared at JFK T5, flying commercial," Matthew Lasner (@mattlasner) wrote in a tweet, which has since been deleted. "My husband chasing them down to harass them. #banalityofevil."

And you still have people applauding what the husband did. Unbelieveable.

Professor Moriarty · 23-12-2016 11:23AM

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

Does anybody think Donald's unwillingness to accept that he's the minority president elect is rooted in his dislike of minorities?

Well, people with diagnosable Narcissistic Personality Disorder represent 1% of the general population. That's a pretty small minority.

midnight city · 23-12-2016 11:37AM

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

Does anybody think Donald's unwillingness to accept that he's the minority president elect is rooted in his dislike of minorities?

He won the electoral college. The only measure that matters. The US is a confederation of states. It will never be changed to a popular vote.

Btw did you have much to say when George Bush won the electoral college but not the popular vote.

Hank Scorpio · 23-12-2016 11:41AM

No mention of the hate crimes the media carried slandering Trump and his supporters that ended up being false in the last couple of days?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/arrest-vote-trump-burning-mississippi-black-church-44330731

So it turns out the person who burned down the Church and painted vote Trump on the side was an African American member of the Church.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/14/nyregion/manhattan-yasmin-seweid-false-hate-crime.html?_r=0

Woman made up the story of 3 Trump supporters pulling her hijab and is being prosecuted

http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/224875655-story

Another Muslim Woman claiming a man threatened to set her on fire turned out to be false

http://patch.com/new-york/gardencity/man-who-drew-swastikas-across-nassau-community-college-arrested-police

Another Muslim drawing swastikas across his college Campus caught

More and more of these are being exposed as fake daily.

Seriously twisted individuals. Sad!

robindch · 23-12-2016 11:44AM

B0jangles wrote: »

This is not about politics anymore, this is a cult of personality.

As a bonus, here's a quote from Hannah Arendt from her book "The Origins of Totalitarianism" (1951)

A fantastic and absorbing book.

It's deeply worrying that DJT appears to have used it as a cookbook, rather than as a cold, cold warning from some of humanity's darkest histories.

Billy86 · 23-12-2016 11:46AM

midnight city wrote: »

He won the electoral college. The only measure that matters. The US is a confederation of states. It will never be changed to a popular vote.

Btw did you have much to say when George Bush won the electoral college but not the popular vote.

I do agree that having won the electoral college system, he won the election and thus should be president - simple as. Trump himself however, does not. Here is what he had to say in 2012 when the thought Obama had lost the popular vote:

- "This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!"
- "More votes equals a loss... revolution!"
- "The phoney electoral college made a laughing stock out of our nation. The loser one [won]!"
- "He lost the popular vote by a lot but won the election. We should have a revolution!"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0NUI4tUkAAXPzW.jpg
*It turned out Obama won the popular vote by just a few thousand shy of 5 million.

According to Donald Trump there needs to be a revolution in the US against his own presidency.

El Presidente Trump

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