El Presidente Trump

El_Duderino 09 · 21-12-2016 07:39PM

KingBrian2 wrote:

If that is the big reason America does not want to deal with Iran diplomatically because of no central bank or oil rights in the country. It is daft to risk a war when the option of better trade relations can offset this. In places like Iraq which is a majority Shia state and with Al Qaeda and ISIS so strong this should be strong reasons for America and Iran to get along. The sanctions in Iran is harming internal affairs and war is only more likely if relations are not greatly improved. So they should put aside those two areas of controversy that seem to be causing so much distrust between Iran and the rest of the world.

Has Trump indicated he intends to do any of this or is this just something you personally hope he does?

Renegade Mechanic · 21-12-2016 07:40PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

If that is the big reason America does not want to deal with Iran diplomatically because of no central bank or oil rights in the country. It is daft to risk a war when the option of better trade relations can offset this. In places like Iraq which is a majority Shia state and with Al Qaeda and ISIS so strong this should be strong reasons for America and Iran to get along. The sanctions in Iran is harming internal affairs and war is only more likely if relations are not greatly improved. So they should put aside those two areas of controversy that seem to be causing so much distrust between Iran and the rest of the world.

There are a lot of things that could be done tbe right way, but that's not the money making way.
Don't look at it through virtues like human empathy. They have none.

HellSquirrel · 21-12-2016 07:57PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

No, although he did come out and say later he would accept it as long was the results were clear and there was no suspected funny business.

It was fixed in a way, at least with the media. The polls you could argue.

Uhm, to be clear, he said he'd accept it if he won.

Apparently his winning means obviously no funny business (well, he said he didn't care at that point), but anyone else winning means it was rigged.

That is a stupidly unwinnable argument. "If the coin comes up heads, it's rigged, if it comes up tails, I win."

Dafuq?

I'll read into that information you posted up above though. But I had to point that out.

KingBrian2 · 21-12-2016 07:58PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

There are a lot of things that could be done tbe right way, but that's not the money making way.
Don't look at it through virtues like human empathy. They have none.

Look at it from realpolitik's, Pres Obama and EU foreign affairs chief Mogherini negotiated a settlement with the Iranians yet the turmoil in the region risks undermining this very agreement. Pres Trump may not have a chance to scupper relations with Iran as the media is already succeeding in pushing Syria, Iran & Russia closer together.

Renegade Mechanic · 21-12-2016 08:08PM

KingBrian2 wrote: »

Look at it from realpolitik's, Pres Obama and EU foreign affairs chief Mogherini negotiated a settlement with the Iranians yet the turmoil in the region risks undermining this very agreement. Pres Trump may not have a chance to scupper relations with Iran as the media is already succeeding in pushing Syria, Iran & Russia closer together.

Media won't have to try Hard, Russia, Syria and Iran have been allies for a very long time. Their interests and the interests of the United States, Saudi Arabia and Israel are at odds with each other. Iran and Russia want to sell more ****e to Europe, Saudi Arabia doesn't want to lise customers. Assad blocked any pipeline coming from Saudi Arabia to Europe, but hasn't said he'd be against an Iranian effort.

Now, the "right" thing to do would be for Saudi Arabia to say fine so and go straight across the Mediterranean. But the trillion dollar arms industry isn't going to profit by figuring out how to transport oil and gas deep underwater.
Nor are Americas going to benefit if other countries no longer have to buy their currency, in order to buy resources.
I know it sounds way too simple to be the case. But it is.

HellSquirrel · 21-12-2016 09:19PM

http://www.cracked.com/blog/how-trump-plays-media-to-hide-big-news-stories/

I know we've gone through it several times by now in this thread over the past few months, but it's interesting to see it with examples.

El_Duderino 09 · 21-12-2016 09:28PM

KingBrian2 wrote:

Look at it from realpolitik's, Pres Obama and EU foreign affairs chief Mogherini negotiated a settlement with the Iranians yet the turmoil in the region risks undermining this very agreement. Pres Trump may not have a chance to scupper relations with Iran as the media is already succeeding in pushing Syria, Iran & Russia closer together.

The media is pushing them together? You think the media in your part of the world has that influence over the leaders of Syria Iran and Russia? Oh dear.

Is this the same media who's mean and nasty to poor trump? Sweet Jesus he doesn't have to even make up the narrative anymore. His supporters are doing it for him

Renegade Mechanic · 21-12-2016 09:31PM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

The media is pushing them together? You think the media in your part of the world has that influence over the leaders of Syria Iran and Russia? Oh dear.

Is this the same media who's mean and nasty to poor trump? Sweet Jesus he doesn't have to even make up the narrative anymore. His supporters are doing it for him

Erm, I - I don't think he's a supporter, lad

ECO_Mental · 21-12-2016 10:28PM

Looks like Trump Plc are going to cash in on POTUS Ltd from day one. Fair play to them for cashing in straight away they mightn't make the four years so why waste time on makin' money...:)

The brothers Grimm set up a "foundation" that was selling access to them and pictures with Trumpski at $500k to $1m a pop. This was to happen on day one of his actual CEO'ship of POTUS Ltd.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/12/21/trump-sons-will-not-attend-high-dollar-fundraiser-that-raised-questions-about-access-peddling/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpsons-12pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.57ad85dfa173

There are too many scandals at the moment, I don't have time to put them all.

ebbsy · 21-12-2016 11:18PM

Amazing the amount of people out there who will believe everything they read.

humanji · 22-12-2016 12:56AM

ebbsy wrote: »

Amazing the amount of people out there who will believe everything they read.

To be fair, we all thought you were a troll, not gullible.

Ba-dum-tish!

Igotadose · 22-12-2016 07:28AM

I'm telling all my American friends to leave the place if they can. This is just insane - imagine, oh, I dunno - Stephen Hawking vs. Pamela Anderson as candidates for a key scientific position. Who would Trump choose?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/12/21/trump_s_hiring_people_based_partly_on_their_looks.html

ECO_Mental · 22-12-2016 07:57AM

ebbsy wrote: »

Amazing the amount of people out there who will believe everything they read.

Ok so! let's get this straight going forward everything I read and post is Bull****. Even though it's from a newspaper that's has been reporting on politics for 140 years and is tripping over Pulitzer's.

But what you read is gospel? What you are saying its that for example is the WP is not as trust worthy as Breitbart....... And I'm guessing the reason why you believe this is because your Dear Leader Trumpski said so! As my mammy would say " if he told you to jump in the river, would you?" She would say this to me when i was child if my excuse for doing something was., "well he told me to do it"

Ebbsy would you also drink the coolaid if he told you so?

Panrich · 22-12-2016 08:25AM

Anyone want to invest in green energy stocks?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/21/donald-trumps-irate-letters-alex-salmond-revealed/

Igotadose · 22-12-2016 09:28AM

Panrich wrote: »

Anyone want to invest in green energy stocks?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/21/donald-trumps-irate-letters-alex-salmond-revealed/

Cue the solyndroids in 3....2...1

Billy86 · 22-12-2016 07:23PM

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/811977223326625792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

#Trumpforworldpeace!

How long until he tries to make a vague threat to China over them at this rate? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume it will at least be after his first day in office.

Pherekydes · 22-12-2016 07:43PM

It's a great tweet. US proliferation until the world...what? Also expands their arsenals?

On a related point, he used the word 'its' correctly twice! Kudos. Maybe a staffer has taken over the account?

Billy86 · 22-12-2016 07:45PM

Pherekydes wrote: »

It's a great tweet. US proliferation until the world...what? Also expands their arsenals?

On a related point, he used the word 'its' correctly twice! Kudos. Maybe a staffer has taken over the account?

Actually, they may have taken it over part time a good while ago - http://www.cracked.com/blog/trump-writes-some-his-own-tweets-and-we-know-which-ones/

Arcade_Tryer · 22-12-2016 08:08PM

Pherekydes wrote: »

Maybe a staffer has taken over the account?

It's often quite clear which tweets are by Trump and which are by someone else. Noticed it a while back.

Billy86 · 22-12-2016 08:14PM

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

It's often quite clear which tweets are by Trump and which are by someone else. Noticed it a while back.

The cryllic is often a real give away.

Igotadose · 22-12-2016 08:47PM

FFS. Did it really call them 'nukes?' Is it pointless for me to wonder when he's going to take this job seriously?

Nukes? What are they, some kind of snack? "TrumpCO's choco-nukes, now with a hidden surprise!"

Nukes... ghods save us all, he really will destroy the world.

Hey, trumplodytes... remind me again how Hilary would've been worse at this? The US can't expand its capacity because she sold all the Uranium to Russia, right? Oh wait... maybe that was just... a Republican squawking point, also known as a lie.

I think this is appropriate for this time of year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t039p6xqutU

Kermit.de.frog · 22-12-2016 10:02PM

Billy86 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/811977223326625792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

#Trumpforworldpeace!

How long until he tries to make a vague threat to China over them at this rate? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume it will at least be after his first day in office.

I maintain he is potentially dangerous in this regard given previous commentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS0eBIzh6Dc

Wanderer78 · 22-12-2016 10:13PM

......and it begins:rolleyes:. what a tool!

i expect the next doomsday review to be advanced

ebbsy · 22-12-2016 10:15PM

Igotadose wrote: »

I'm telling all my American friends to leave the place if they can. This is just insane - imagine, oh, I dunno - Stephen Hawking vs. Pamela Anderson as candidates for a key scientific position. Who would Trump choose?

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/12/21/trump_s_hiring_people_based_partly_on_their_looks.html

Doubt if they would be missed. They could take the rest of the losers with them.

osarusan · 22-12-2016 10:19PM

This sh!t is out of order though.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38409836

An airline has thrown a passenger off a flight after he accosted Ivanka Trump, the eldest daughter of President-elect Donald Trump, on a plane from New York.

"Your father is ruining the country," the man shouted as the aircraft prepared for departure from JFK airport in New York, a passenger told TMZ.com.

Witnesses said Ms Trump ignored the man and distracted her children with toys.

ebbsy · 22-12-2016 10:30PM

osarusan wrote: »

This sh!t is out of order though.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38409836

An airline has thrown a passenger off a flight after he accosted Ivanka Trump, the eldest daughter of President-elect Donald Trump, on a plane from New York.

"Your father is ruining the country," the man shouted as the aircraft prepared for departure from JFK airport in New York, a passenger told TMZ.com.

Witnesses said Ms Trump ignored the man and distracted her children with toys.

What an idiot.

Manic Moran · 22-12-2016 10:59PM

Igotadose wrote: »

FFS. Did it really call them 'nukes?' Is it pointless for me to wonder when he's going to take this job seriously?

Nukes? What are they, some kind of snack? "TrumpCO's choco-nukes, now with a hidden surprise!"

Nukes... ghods save us all, he really will destroy the world.

Hey, trumplodytes... remind me again how Hilary would've been worse at this? The US can't expand its capacity because she sold all the Uranium to Russia, right? Oh wait... maybe that was just... a Republican squawking point, also known as a lie.

I think this is appropriate for this time of year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t039p6xqutU

Most people will refer to them as nukes in common conversation. You're really going to rag on him for speaking like the rest of us? I mean, the official term is, I believe, "special weapons"

Skommando · 22-12-2016 11:03PM

osarusan wrote: »

This sh!t is out of order though.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38409836

nothing is out of order for the hysterical liberal PC nazi's who hate democratic results and are now left foaming at the mouth, instead of learning the lessons as to why so many people voted for Trump

A Dub in Glasgo · 22-12-2016 11:08PM

Manic Moran wrote: »

I believe, "special weapons"

weapons of mass destruction

Wanderer78 · 22-12-2016 11:11PM

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

weapons of mass destruction

theyve already used that one, maybe, weapons that will destruct the masses or massively destructive weapons? i personally like mdw's! just trying to help the cause:rolleyes:

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