Glen Hansard and his crocodile tears

learn_more · 22-12-2016 12:05AM

It's always bearded hippy guitar playing righteous socialists that turn up to throw out a tune at these kinds of events.

How come it's never a rapper, or an opera singer, or a techo DJ, or a group of violinists ( which would be much more appropriate

) ?

SILVAMAN · 22-12-2016 12:06AM

dor843088 wrote: »

My point is if he cared he would solve the issue with one swipe and not be on tv "crying" about it.

And what tell us in detail what you have done about the homeless situation?

Chris. · 22-12-2016 12:06AM

0127647 wrote: »

It is not the responsibility of the government to house these people.

Oh I get ya now. Whose responsibility is it to house homeless people so?

Gringo180 · 22-12-2016 12:06AM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

It is the outright false pretences that annoy me. There are beds available already. The ones on the street are on drink or drugs, of which they have stated Apollo house is a dry hostel.

Then there is the "selection" process of the 35-38 beds. You go to a soup kitchen and get "referred" to Apollo house. So we can take it they are very selective of who gets in to make sure it doesn't blow up in their face.

There is a massive issue of fake news at the moment. Non reporting of issues behind the news should also be classified as fake news

The amount of families that are homeless is up by 40% on last year. 33% of those that are in "EMERGENCY" accomodation are children.

price690 · 22-12-2016 12:08AM

I'd love to ask Peter McVerry how he would feel about opening up every church in Ireland to homeless people this Christmas. Plenty of room, it would be a temp solution on a grand scale.

Surely God would understand, given the need for temporary shelter ðŸ™„

castletownman · 22-12-2016 12:08AM

I say fair play to Glen and the other public figures involved.

It's the cretins that checked into Apollo House on FB, or arrived to the building itself in the hope of hearing a free impromptu concert, that undoubtedly didn't donate a single cent to the cause that are bigger bugbear.

The whole ordeal won't influence me to donate to charity just to be seen doing it though. I will give my usual contribution to my local branch on Christmas Eve like I have done every year since I started earning a wage.

suicide_circus · 22-12-2016 12:10AM

Chris. wrote: »

Oh I get ya now. Whose responsibility is it to house homeless people so?

I think he's suggesting that it's their own responsibility

Gringo180 · 22-12-2016 12:11AM

0127647 wrote: »

What good is awareness? Im sure 99% of the country are already "aware" of the "Homeless Problem". Its peddled in the media every 2nd day.

Isn't it good to see people get up off there back sides and put pressure on the government to tackle the housing crisis and the huge increase in families being made homeless. Look at the water protests. They worked.

Oodoov · 22-12-2016 12:13AM

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Didn't you do the typical begrudger comment of "who?" in one of the very first replies to the thread?

You ain't great with sarcasm are you.

suicide_circus · 22-12-2016 12:15AM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Isn't it good to see people get up off there back sides and put pressure on the government to tackle the housing crisis and the huge increase in families being made homeless. Look at the water protests. They worked.

Water charges are a tricky one as they make complete logical sense in terms of conservation and environmental sustainability as evidenced by their ubiquity everywhere in the civilised world...but on the other hand, people don't want to see another utility bill coming in.

nice_guy80 · 22-12-2016 12:15AM

I'm glad people didn't have the same attitude to Bob Geldof back in the day

Saipanne · 22-12-2016 12:17AM

I've been donating monthly to the Simon community for years.

Then a few pop stars make a speech and play a few songs and suddenly everyone cares.

suicide_circus · 22-12-2016 12:17AM

nice_guy80 wrote: »

I'm glad people didn't have the same attitude to Bob Geldof back in the day

Jesus yeah that turned things in Africa around

Gringo180 · 22-12-2016 12:18AM

nice_guy80 wrote: »

I'm glad people didn't have the same attitude to Bob Geldof back in the day

Im surprised some arent moaning about all these celebrities and millionaires trying to raise money for children in need.

Gringo180 · 22-12-2016 12:19AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Jesus yeah that turned things in Africa around

Are you trying to say it didnt help?

Saipanne · 22-12-2016 12:19AM

nice_guy80 wrote: »

I'm glad people didn't have the same attitude to Bob Geldof back in the day

How are those Syrian families doing at his place?

david75 · 22-12-2016 12:20AM

'“For the first time in my life I’ve got a few quid. Then you start thinking about taxes and you think ‘right, I’m paying this crazy tax rate because I’m making money,’” he said, speaking to Ray D’arcy on Today FM.

“And you’ve got mates going, ‘get that money off side, I know what you can do, go live in that country or register in this one.’ This country gave me an education, it made me who I am. I am trading all around the world on being an Irish guy, so why wouldn’t I pay my taxes?” he added.

Glen stated that he didn't agree with U2's philosophy on paying taxes in Ireland.

When Glen was asked about U2, who moved their business from Ireland to Holland back in 2006 after a cap was put on the generous tax breaks available to artists here, Glen said: “I don’t agree with that philosophy.”

“I would love for the Irish people just to find a voice, a solidarity and speak out…just rise up and make some comment. We lie down and we take everything that’s thrown at us,” he added.'

Harsh Words: Glen Hansard From The Frames Makes a Dig at U2... https://www.her.ie/music/harsh-words-glen-hansard-from-the-frames-makes-a-dig-at-u2/21453?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=onsite_

22-12-2016 12:20AM

Chris. wrote: »

Oh I get ya now. Whose responsibility is it to house homeless people so?

The state provides plenty of services as detailed below:

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/losing_your_home/housing_options_for_homeless_people.html

After this its up to the individual to look after themselves. If people refuse to use/participate in these services, i'm not sure what the government is expected to do. Arrest them maybe?

Pinch Flat · 22-12-2016 12:20AM

Begrudgery alive and well in good ole Ireland. Assuming you're going way over and above Glens work to sort out the homeless problems OP?

0byme75341jo28 · 22-12-2016 12:22AM

Did he not just your Ireland with all proceeds going to charity? :rolleyes:

deco nate · 22-12-2016 12:23AM

dor843088 wrote: »

Embarrassing watching this guy, a multi millionaire crying on tv about homeless people when he could house those 40 people he cares so much about with the stroke of a pen. I wonder if he loses sleep about the issue from his high walled mansion. Or does he want people who actually pay tax in this country on the money they have earned to house them. A minimum wage worker probably has paid more towards social issues and services in this country than this guy and hes on tv crying.

What a load of bollocks! If he is worth 1. 4 million. How does that make him a multi millionaire?
In the 80's yes you could live the high life on that, buy a Porsche a Ferrari a house major holidays a boat.
But you forget about inflation.
To "live like a millionaire" now you need like 6-8...

But of course you fail to post about Glen playing every year on grafton Street and giving the money to charity. Something you neglected to post. He doesn't have to do anything to help anyone. Yet he keeps doing it. And only now we get BULL**** threads like this. Good job op....

eeguy · 22-12-2016 12:25AM

I don't see RTE giving much airtime to homeless people so they can get their own point across.

Seems like Glen is doing them a solid.
Also, why should it be his responsibility to sort out this mess? Why should he have to pay for it alone?

Berserker · 22-12-2016 12:31AM

eeguy wrote: »

I don't see RTE giving much airtime to homeless people so they can get their own point across.

RTE, TV3 and the rest of the media haven't covered the housing and homeless crisis? Do you watch the likes of Prime Time, VB, Claire Byrne, The Week in Politics etc, etc at all?

castletownman · 22-12-2016 12:31AM

eeguy wrote: »

I don't see RTE giving much airtime to homeless people so they can get their own point across.

Seems like Glen is doing them a solid.
Also, why should it be his responsibility to sort out this mess? Why should he have to pay for it alone?

I'm as big a critic of RTE as anyone but they have regularly taken to the streets making people aware of the situation (on news pieces etc). And the High Hopes choir documentary they made a couple of years ago was one of the most beautiful productions they ever done, and definitely gave the cause a wider voice.

buried · 22-12-2016 12:36AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

I think he's suggesting that it's their own responsibility

Be great if people looked after their own responsibilities, look after those responsibilities just like the banks and the financial regulator looked after theirs up to 2008

david75 · 22-12-2016 12:38AM

Something people should be aware of. Glen doesn't 'need' profile or attention in Ireland. He plays what, 4 maybe 5 gigs a year here(and that money always goes to charity. His last vicar st show last month all proceeds went to buy a van for a youth project in ballymun). Effectively and in reality doesn't need Ireland as a market. Tours almost constantly in the US in the serious rooms. Carnegie hall. Radio city etc.

Then comes home and like this last week. 5 gigs around Ireland in small places all money raised on tickets and merchandise going to charity.
No poxy press release or xpose appearance about it. He doesn't play that way.

It's so sad we've brought begrudged someone else's succes but also their effort to actually help and try crap on it with cynicism.

Fact of the matter is he's always worked really hard and always had to raise funds and awareness for homeless causes and charities. That's just a fact. There's no ego in it either except maybe calling Bono to come play the Christmas Eve busk cos he has bonos number. That's it.

Says more about us that we think like this. And maybe the bono begrudgery is spilling now onto anyone who happens to be successful.

It's up to singers and artists to use their platform in Ireland. Who the f*ck else is gonna?

Saipanne · 22-12-2016 12:43AM

david75 wrote: »

Something people should be aware of. Glen doesn't 'need' profile or attention in Ireland. He plays what, 4 maybe 5 gigs a year here(and that money always goes to charity. His last vicar st show last month all proceeds went to buy a van for a youth project in ballymun). Effectively and in reality doesn't need Ireland as a market. Tours almost constantly in the US in the serious rooms. Carnegie hall. Radio city etc.

Then comes home and like this last week. 5 gigs around Ireland in small places all money raised on tickets and merchandise going to charity.
No poxy press release or xpose but about it. He doesn't play that way.

It's so sad we've brought begrudged someone else's succes but also their effort to actually help and try crap on it with cynicism.

Fact of the matter is he's always worked really hard and always had to raise funds and awareness for homeless causes and charities. That's just a fact. There's no ego in it either except maybe calling Bono to come play the Christmas Eve busk cos he has bonos number. That's it.

Says more about us that we think like this. And maybe the bono begrudged his I erspillibg now onto anyone who happens to be successful.

It's up to singers and artists to use their platform in Ireland. Who the f*ck else is gonna?

If every person in Ireland who claims to care about homelessness set up a DD (say, two pints a month worth) to a homeless charity, that would go a looooonnnnng way to fixing this crisis.

But no. For some, those few pints is what matters. And yet they'll tweet away about how it's a disgrace.

Jesus wept.

FixdePitchmark · 22-12-2016 12:44AM

Saipanne wrote: »

Jesus wept.

But at least it was over 2 pints.

John_Rambo · 22-12-2016 12:48AM

dor843088 wrote: »

Embarrassing watching this guy, a multi millionaire crying on tv about homeless people when he could house those 40 people he cares so much about with the stroke of a pen. I wonder if he loses sleep about the issue from his high walled mansion. Or does he want people who actually pay tax in this country on the money they have earned to house them. A minimum wage worker probably has paid more towards social issues and services in this country than this guy and hes on tv crying.

Where were you coming from? What were you thinking to post such an immature, ill conceived, begrudged, misinformed, nasty, idiotic, moronic, embarrassing and foolish post?

Have you no compassion or are you that simple you can't see the struggles of others or appreciate your fellow humans efforts for people that are in trouble?

Are you blinded by the fact that the man (of whom I've not much knowledge of) is well known in the music circles is doing something good? Is that you're problem? He's got a pedestal, he's using it for good.

What's your input to the problem?

Dyr · 22-12-2016 12:48AM

Apart from the disadvantage of being a ****ing fanta head Hansard was born and reared in the mun, unlike that unspeakable pox bono, who just pretended he was for the PR.

Hansard still gives the old neighborhood a dig out with his time and money

Unlike the tax shy Pox Bono

Hansard has actually put the time and effort into this apollo house thing, unlike the miserable poxbottle billionaire bono who just pulls publicity stunts and then pisses off in his private jet like that sellafield nonsense back in the day

Long live Hansard. Outspan for president/minister for the arts, culture, the galetacht, thumb tacs/ High king of gingers

Glen Hansard and his crocodile tears

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