Glen Hansard and his crocodile tears

dor843088

Embarrassing watching this guy, a multi millionaire crying on tv about homeless people when he could house those 40 people he cares so much about with the stroke of a pen. I wonder if he loses sleep about the issue from his high walled mansion. Or does he want people who actually pay tax in this country on the money they have earned to house them. A minimum wage worker probably has paid more towards social issues and services in this country than this guy and hes on tv crying.

Oodoov

Who?

KungPao

Oodoov wrote: »

Who?

Outspan.

briany

Oodoov wrote: »

Who?

Some guy who was in a film once.

Wibbs

I somehow doubt he's a multimillionaire TBH. Well off enough, but not in the U2 stakes or anything like it. Though, yes I do get a pain in my unmentionables when the preaching starts from screen or stage.

Jayop

Shocking that you'd have to listen to someone bring attention to a national disgrace. Poor you.

A Dub in Glasgo

dor843088 wrote: »

Embarrassing watching this guy, a multi millionaire crying on tv about homeless people when he could house those 40 people he cares so much about with the stroke of a pen. I wonder if he loses sleep about the issue from his high walled mansion. Or does he want people who actually pay tax in this country on the money they have earned to house them. A minimum wage worker probably has paid more towards social issues and services in this country than this guy and hes on tv crying.

So anyone who has become successful cannot agitate for better conditions unless they meet your criteria?

mansize

Terrible people using their fame to highlight the plight of the less fortunate...

Bubbaclaus

Glen Hansard is Ireland's greatest ever musician and he can do whatever the hell he likes for all I care.

That's all I have to add to this.

osarusan

Breaston Plants wrote: »

http://en.mediamass.net/people/glen-hansard/highest-paid.html

Did you read that link beyond the headline?

Like say, the bit about how he owns a football team called the Dublin Angels? Or that he has his own fashion line called Glen Hansard seduction?

or even this bit: UPDATE 21/12/2016 : This story seems to be false. (read more)

Breaston Plants

osarusan wrote: »

Did you read that link beyond the headline?

Yes, removed post. But the man is still a multi millionaire.

FixdePitchmark

Not sure I would pick on Glen.

I'm fairly sure he lives here (and is he resident here ?)
Has fairly solid working class credentials
Is a down to earth guy - who keeps his profile low
Is fairly sound by all accounts
Is a bloody talented musician - and hard worker at his craft.
And was part responsible for one of the best low budget - global successes out of here (Once) - in fact, he was in commitments too.

I hope what they are doing is symbolic - and if it is - it worked.

If it wasn't symbolic - they made a bollix of it. It was more symbolliix

Will be interesting if they stay there over Christmas.


I think behind it all - they are so grateful Peter McVeigh has saved them with a bit of sense.

But it is better than doing nothing - it is better than starting a thread.

Nabber

If he made is money legally, pays his taxes and abides by the laws of the land, why hasn't he got the right to expect that it's a social problem.

It's not his duty to house all homeless, I bet OP you could forego holidays, night outs and any luxury items, use the saved monies to and get a homeless person into a hostel.

Should we be out raged that you don't?

Knock the SJW crap on the head. We live in a capitalist country, we put no limits on how rich people can become. If you think the rich or super rich should pay for all of societies failings you are deluded.

What you want is socialism. Communism is better than socialism.

Next you'll want people to get preference in the private sector base on their social standing rather than their ability!

alchemist33

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Glen Hansard is Ireland's greatest ever musician and he can do whatever the hell he likes for all I care.

That's all I have to add to this.

*cough*


Ahem, Richie Kavanagh?

dor843088

My point is if he cared he would solve the issue with one swipe and not be on tv "crying" about it.

FixdePitchmark

Wibbs wrote: »

I somehow doubt he's a multimillionaire TBH. Well off enough, but not in the U2 stakes or anything like it. Though, yes I do get a pain in my unmentionables when the preaching starts from screen or stage.

I'd say his royalties from "Once" the musical - might surprise a few.

Breaston Plants

osarusan wrote: »

Did you read that link beyond the headline?

Like say, the bit about how he owns a football team called the Dublin Angels? Or that he has his own fashion line called Glen Hansard seduction?

or even this bit: UPDATE 21/12/2016 : This story seems to be false. (read more)

http://m.independent.ie/business/irish/busker-turned-oscarwinner-hansard-tunes-up-profits-of-14m-31310244.html

The Backwards Man

Prefer Jimmy Nail's crocodile shoes meself

ThisRegard

I wonder if they all availed of the artists tax exemption these days, first €50,000 tax free at the moment. Might have covered the cost of a bed or two.

osarusan

Breaston Plants wrote: »

http://m.independent.ie/business/irish/busker-turned-oscarwinner-hansard-tunes-up-profits-of-14m-31310244.html

Grand yeah, I made no comment on his wealth, just that the original website was obvious nonsense.

dor843088

Nabber wrote: »

If he made is money legally, pays his taxes and abides by the laws of the land, why hasn't he got the right to expect that it's a social problem.

It's not his duty to house all homeless, I bet OP you could forego holidays, night outs and any luxury items, use the saved monies to and get a homeless person into a hostel.

Should we be out raged that you don't?

Knock the SJW crap on the head. We live in a capitalist country, we put no limits on how rich people can become. If you think the rich or super rich should pay for all of societies failings you are deluded.

What you want is socialism. Communism is better than socialism.

Next you'll want people to get preference in the private sector base on their social standing rather than their ability!

You took me up wrong mate I dont want the rich to pay for any social problems I just dont want to them on tv crying trying to get everyone else to pay for them while they hoard their millions.

A Dub in Glasgo

dor843088 wrote: »

My point is if he cared he would solve the issue with one swipe and not be on tv "crying" about it.

No, your point is you begrudge Hansard for becoming successful and agitating for a cause that you probably dispise

Oodoov

Irish people begrudging someone doing well, that's a first.

Bubbaclaus

Oodoov wrote: »

Irish people begrudging someone doing well, that's a first.

Didn't you do the typical begrudger comment of "who?" in one of the very first replies to the thread?

suicide_circus

Jayop wrote: »

Shocking that you'd have to listen to someone bring attention to a national disgrace. Poor you.

Only for Glen I wouldn't have had a clue about the homeless crisis as it hasn't been a media hot topic and on every screen and page for the guts of three years.

mzungu

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Glen Hansard is Ireland's greatest ever musician and he can do whatever the hell he likes for all I care.

That's all I have to add to this.

Ah now, what about Rory?

Bubbaclaus

mzungu wrote: »

Ah now, what about Rory?

I should've clarified by saying living musician.

Rory is king.

FixdePitchmark

dor843088 wrote: »

You took me up wrong mate I dont want the rich to pay for any social problems I just dont want to them on tv crying trying to get everyone else to pay for them while they hoard their millions.

But how do you know they hoard their millions.

I'd say Glen is fairly charitable.

They spend years in poverty chasing a dream and their art. If any of them become successful - fair play to them.

Using music for a cause has been part of political movements for, I don't know - ever.

It isn't about money - it is about the point.

Yes it is miss guided and doesn't work at times. But it definitely highlights the issue.

Jayop

suicide_circus wrote: »

Only for Glen I wouldn't have had a clue about the homeless crisis as it hasn't been a media hot topic and on every screen and page for the guts of three years.

Has he or has he not been involved in an action that has greatly raised awareness and support and in turn will force the government into action.

I'm sure you would be aware of the homeless as you step over them. That's not the same as trying to actually do something about it. Hansard isn't screaming 'give me your ****ing money' he's trying to get the government to uphold their responsibilities and quite possibly they could have shamed them into doing that.

Horrible for you.

Chris.

dor843088 wrote: »

Embarrassing watching this guy, a multi millionaire crying on tv about homeless people when he could house those 40 people he cares so much about with the stroke of a pen. I wonder if he loses sleep about the issue from his high walled mansion. Or does he want people who actually pay tax in this country on the money they have earned to house them. A minimum wage worker probably has paid more towards social issues and services in this country than this guy and hes on tv crying.

Except of course and this a good one, it is not up to Glen Hansard to house 40 homeless people (even if he is one of many actually housing these 40 homeless people over the Christmas at least) it's up to the mighty government of ours. You know, the people we elect to run our affairs and make sure s**t like homelessness doesn't happen.

By your logic anyone who makes a success of themselves through their own hard work and enjoys very good finances as a result, should not dare speak of the wrongs in this country. Who are they to speak with all the money they have tut tut.

They're doing a whole lot more right now than you or I that's for sure. If there is anything embarrassing its your post and the way you and many like you think.

Jayop

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

But how do you know they hoard their millions.

I'd say Glen is fairly charitable.

They spend years in poverty chasing a dream and their art. If any of them become successful - fair play to them.

Using music for a cause has been part of political movements for, I don't know - ever.

It isn't about money - it is about the point.

Yes it is miss guided and doesn't work at times. But it definitely highlights the issue.

Bob Dylan the bastard singing about war while he sat in sunny San Francisco. How dare he.

tayto lover

dor843088 wrote: »

My point is if he cared he would solve the issue with one swipe and not be on tv "crying" about it.

Would he be then left to solve all the other issues that arise?

CPTM

dor843088 wrote:

Embarrassing watching this guy, a multi millionaire crying on tv about homeless people when he could house those 40 people he cares so much about with the stroke of a pen. I wonder if he loses sleep about the issue from his high walled mansion. Or does he want people who actually pay tax in this country on the money they have earned to house them. A minimum wage worker probably has paid more towards social issues and services in this country than this guy and hes on tv crying.

We don't know his tax bill or its beneficiaries, or how much he's donated to the cause in monetary terms, or why he's picked this as something to invest his time in.

We do know is that he is one of the people who is not directly affected by the crisis but who has taken measures to try fix it. Which is a good thing in my books.

Aside from all that, if this whole thing was about 40 people then I suspect there wouldn't be any story or any threads talking about it. He and the rest of us are involved because the number is 6,000 and growing.

Nermal

Chris. wrote: »

By your logic anyone who makes a success of themselves through their own hard work and enjoys very good finances as a result, should not dare speak of the wrongs in this country. Who are they to speak with all the money they have tut tut.

That's pretty much it. Don't mind you being successful, but STFU about it.

Watching celebrities latching on to feel-good causes is puke-inducing.

Reminds me, I must check how the Syrians are getting on at Bob's house...

dor843088

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

No, your point is you begrudge Hansard for becoming successful and agitating for a cause that you probably dispise

I dont begrudge him at all . I love millionaires and I aspire to be one soon. And if I do aquire millions such as glen i will make a donation rather than look for notice on tv.

Jayop

dor843088 wrote: »

I dont begrudge him at all . I love millionaires and I aspire to be one soon. And if I do aquire millions such as glen i will make a donation rather than look for notice on tv.

Suuuuuuure you will

Berserker

Jayop wrote: »

I'm sure you would be aware of the homeless as you step over them. That's not the same as trying to actually do something about it. Hansard isn't screaming 'give me your ****ing money' he's trying to get the government to uphold their responsibilities and quite possibly they could have shamed them into doing that.

He is screaming, 'give me your ****ing money', in an indirect manner. If he succeeds in shaming the government into action, i.e. giving these people free housing, then the tax payer is the person who is going to foot that bill. Why don't we tax artists and the arts like the rest of us and direct that money to fund homeless services? Let's see how receptive these people are to that suggestion!

super_furry

dor843088 wrote: »

My point is if he cared he would solve the issue with one swipe and not be on tv "crying" about it.

Your point is a load of gick.

petrolcan

Oodoov wrote: »

Irish people begrudging someone doing well, that's a first.

Don't begrudge the begrudger.

FixdePitchmark

Jayop wrote: »

Bob Dylan the bastard singing about war while he sat in sunny San Francisco. How dare he.

Not to mention the equality movement
Not to mention women's rights
Apartheid
Irish civil rights movement
Workers right moment
And every other bloody movments ever be it sex freedom - drug freedom - antiestablishment momment

Only X factor is a musical movement based on nothing.

dor843088

Anyway im off now to cry into my wifes face that my kids are hungry cos theres no way im feeding them myself. Cheers glen .

Chris.

Nermal wrote: »

That's pretty much it. Don't mind you being successful, but STFU about it.

Watching celebrities latching on to feel-good causes is puke-inducing.

Reminds me, I must check how the Syrians are getting on at Bob's house...

I think you missed the sarcasm in there. How are the Syrians getting on in your house though do tell?

Richard Hillman

It is the outright false pretences that annoy me. There are beds available already. The ones on the street are on drink or drugs, of which they have stated Apollo house is a dry hostel.

Then there is the "selection" process of the 35-38 beds. You go to a soup kitchen and get "referred" to Apollo house. So we can take it they are very selective of who gets in to make sure it doesn't blow up in their face.

There is a massive issue of fake news at the moment. Non reporting of issues behind the news should also be classified as fake news.

Nermal

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Not to mention the equality movement
Not to mention women's rights
Apartheid
Irish civil rights movement
Workers right moment
And every other bloody movments ever be it sex freedom - drug freedom - antiestablishment momment

So celebrities have a history of latching on to movements that are already popular. When did a celebrity ever take a genuine risk getting behind an unpopular cause?

No skin in the game. That's why no-one takes them seriously.

Edgarfrndly

dor843088 wrote: »

Embarrassing watching this guy, a multi millionaire crying on tv about homeless people when he could house those 40 people he cares so much about with the stroke of a pen. I wonder if he loses sleep about the issue from his high walled mansion. Or does he want people who actually pay tax in this country on the money they have earned to house them. A minimum wage worker probably has paid more towards social issues and services in this country than this guy and hes on tv crying.

No, Irish people begrudging anyone who does a good deed is embarrassing. He goes out every Christmas and raises money for homeless charities - more than you've been doing, that's for sure.

glenfieldman

dor843088 wrote: »

Anyway im off now to cry into my wifes face that my kids are hungry cos theres no way im feeding them myself. Cheers glen .

The typical quote of an OP, who clearly wishes he never started a drunk thread, you lost the war pal

0127647

Chris. wrote: »

Except of course and this a good one, it is not up to Glen Hansard to house 40 homeless people (even if he is one of many actually housing these 40 homeless people over the Christmas at least) it's up to the mighty government of ours. You know, the people we elect to run our affairs and make sure s**t like homelessness doesn't happen.

By your logic anyone who makes a success of themselves through their own hard work and enjoys very good finances as a result, should not dare speak of the wrongs in this country. Who are they to speak with all the money they have tut tut.

They're doing a whole lot more right now than you or I that's for sure. If there is anything embarrassing its your post and the way you and many like you think.

Errr No its not.

A Dub in Glasgo

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Non reporting of issues behind the news should also be classified as fake news.

You are reporting it so it cannot be fake news

FixdePitchmark

Nermal wrote: »

So celebrities have a history of latching on to movements that are already popular. When did a celebrity ever take a genuine risk getting behind an unpopular cause?

No skin in the game. That's why no-one takes them seriously.

Is that not chicken and egg.

The movement Dylan got onto was inspired by Guthrie before him - it is a flow all the way back. Even before music was commercial.

Arthur McBride is about 180 years old.

Republican songs were incredibly important to the Irish cause.

Live Aid was very fast and early in the cause.

It is utter cynicism to think it wasn't based on an ideal.

Bob Marley did the same about the cause for African americans - Indians.

Ridiculous to think all of these were not based on a youthfull ideal , you are suppose to have a cause when you are younger.

suicide_circus

Jayop wrote: »

Has he or has he not been involved in an action that has greatly raised awareness and support and in turn will force the government into action.

I'm sure you would be aware of the homeless as you step over them. That's not the same as trying to actually do something about it. Hansard isn't screaming 'give me your ****ing money' he's trying to get the government to uphold their responsibilities and quite possibly they could have shamed them into doing that.

Horrible for you.

Go sell guilt some place else, we're all stocked up here.

FixdePitchmark

suicide_circus wrote: »

Go sell guilt some place else, we're all stocked up here.

What guilt do you have.

You should only have guilt if you are guilty.