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Glen Hansard and his crocodile tears

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    #32
    tayto lover
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    dor843088 wrote: »
    My point is if he cared he would solve the issue with one swipe and not be on tv "crying" about it.

    Would he be then left to solve all the other issues that arise?


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    #33
    CPTM
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    dor843088 wrote:
    Embarrassing watching this guy, a multi millionaire crying on tv about homeless people when he could house those 40 people he cares so much about with the stroke of a pen. I wonder if he loses sleep about the issue from his high walled mansion. Or does he want people who actually pay tax in this country on the money they have earned to house them. A minimum wage worker probably has paid more towards social issues and services in this country than this guy and hes on tv crying.

    We don't know his tax bill or its beneficiaries, or how much he's donated to the cause in monetary terms, or why he's picked this as something to invest his time in.

    We do know is that he is one of the people who is not directly affected by the crisis but who has taken measures to try fix it. Which is a good thing in my books.

    Aside from all that, if this whole thing was about 40 people then I suspect there wouldn't be any story or any threads talking about it. He and the rest of us are involved because the number is 6,000 and growing.


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    #34
    Nermal
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    Chris. wrote: »
    By your logic anyone who makes a success of themselves through their own hard work and enjoys very good finances as a result, should not dare speak of the wrongs in this country. Who are they to speak with all the money they have tut tut.

    That's pretty much it. Don't mind you being successful, but STFU about it.

    Watching celebrities latching on to feel-good causes is puke-inducing.

    Reminds me, I must check how the Syrians are getting on at Bob's house...


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    #35
    dor843088
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    A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »
    No, your point is you begrudge Hansard for becoming successful and agitating for a cause that you probably dispise

    I dont begrudge him at all . I love millionaires and I aspire to be one soon. And if I do aquire millions such as glen i will make a donation rather than look for notice on tv.


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    #36
    Jayop
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    dor843088 wrote: »
    I dont begrudge him at all . I love millionaires and I aspire to be one soon. And if I do aquire millions such as glen i will make a donation rather than look for notice on tv.

    Suuuuuuure you will


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    #37
    Berserker
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    Jayop wrote: »
    I'm sure you would be aware of the homeless as you step over them. That's not the same as trying to actually do something about it. Hansard isn't screaming 'give me your ****ing money' he's trying to get the government to uphold their responsibilities and quite possibly they could have shamed them into doing that.

    He is screaming, 'give me your ****ing money', in an indirect manner. If he succeeds in shaming the government into action, i.e. giving these people free housing, then the tax payer is the person who is going to foot that bill. Why don't we tax artists and the arts like the rest of us and direct that money to fund homeless services? Let's see how receptive these people are to that suggestion!


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    #38
    super_furry
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    dor843088 wrote: »
    My point is if he cared he would solve the issue with one swipe and not be on tv "crying" about it.

    Your point is a load of gick.


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    #39
    petrolcan
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    Oodoov wrote: »
    Irish people begrudging someone doing well, that's a first.

    Don't begrudge the begrudger.


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    #40
    FixdePitchmark
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    Jayop wrote: »
    Bob Dylan the bastard singing about war while he sat in sunny San Francisco. How dare he.

    Not to mention the equality movement
    Not to mention women's rights
    Apartheid
    Irish civil rights movement
    Workers right moment
    And every other bloody movments ever be it sex freedom - drug freedom - antiestablishment momment

    Only X factor is a musical movement based on nothing. :D


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    #41
    dor843088
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭dor843088


    Anyway im off now to cry into my wifes face that my kids are hungry cos theres no way im feeding them myself. Cheers glen .


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    #42
    Chris.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭Chris.


    Nermal wrote: »
    That's pretty much it. Don't mind you being successful, but STFU about it.

    Watching celebrities latching on to feel-good causes is puke-inducing.

    Reminds me, I must check how the Syrians are getting on at Bob's house...

    I think you missed the sarcasm in there. How are the Syrians getting on in your house though do tell?


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    #43
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    It is the outright false pretences that annoy me. There are beds available already. The ones on the street are on drink or drugs, of which they have stated Apollo house is a dry hostel.

    Then there is the "selection" process of the 35-38 beds. You go to a soup kitchen and get "referred" to Apollo house. So we can take it they are very selective of who gets in to make sure it doesn't blow up in their face.

    There is a massive issue of fake news at the moment. Non reporting of issues behind the news should also be classified as fake news.


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    #44
    Nermal
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    FixdePitchmark wrote: »
    Not to mention the equality movement
    Not to mention women's rights
    Apartheid
    Irish civil rights movement
    Workers right moment
    And every other bloody movments ever be it sex freedom - drug freedom - antiestablishment momment

    So celebrities have a history of latching on to movements that are already popular. When did a celebrity ever take a genuine risk getting behind an unpopular cause?

    No skin in the game. That's why no-one takes them seriously.


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    #45
    Edgarfrndly
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    dor843088 wrote: »
    Embarrassing watching this guy, a multi millionaire crying on tv about homeless people when he could house those 40 people he cares so much about with the stroke of a pen. I wonder if he loses sleep about the issue from his high walled mansion. Or does he want people who actually pay tax in this country on the money they have earned to house them. A minimum wage worker probably has paid more towards social issues and services in this country than this guy and hes on tv crying.

    No, Irish people begrudging anyone who does a good deed is embarrassing. He goes out every Christmas and raises money for homeless charities - more than you've been doing, that's for sure.


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    #46
    glenfieldman
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    dor843088 wrote: »
    Anyway im off now to cry into my wifes face that my kids are hungry cos theres no way im feeding them myself. Cheers glen .

    The typical quote of an OP, who clearly wishes he never started a drunk thread, you lost the war pal


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    #47
    0127647
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    Chris. wrote: »
    Except of course and this a good one, it is not up to Glen Hansard to house 40 homeless people (even if he is one of many actually housing these 40 homeless people over the Christmas at least) it's up to the mighty government of ours. You know, the people we elect to run our affairs and make sure s**t like homelessness doesn't happen.

    By your logic anyone who makes a success of themselves through their own hard work and enjoys very good finances as a result, should not dare speak of the wrongs in this country. Who are they to speak with all the money they have tut tut.

    They're doing a whole lot more right now than you or I that's for sure. If there is anything embarrassing its your post and the way you and many like you think.

    Errr No its not.


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    #48
    A Dub in Glasgo
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    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    Non reporting of issues behind the news should also be classified as fake news.

    You are reporting it so it cannot be fake news


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    #49
    FixdePitchmark
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    Nermal wrote: »
    So celebrities have a history of latching on to movements that are already popular. When did a celebrity ever take a genuine risk getting behind an unpopular cause?

    No skin in the game. That's why no-one takes them seriously.

    Is that not chicken and egg.

    The movement Dylan got onto was inspired by Guthrie before him - it is a flow all the way back. Even before music was commercial.

    Arthur McBride is about 180 years old.

    Republican songs were incredibly important to the Irish cause.

    Live Aid was very fast and early in the cause.

    It is utter cynicism to think it wasn't based on an ideal.

    Bob Marley did the same about the cause for African americans - Indians.

    Ridiculous to think all of these were not based on a youthfull ideal , you are suppose to have a cause when you are younger.


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    #50
    suicide_circus
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    Jayop wrote: »
    Has he or has he not been involved in an action that has greatly raised awareness and support and in turn will force the government into action.

    I'm sure you would be aware of the homeless as you step over them. That's not the same as trying to actually do something about it. Hansard isn't screaming 'give me your ****ing money' he's trying to get the government to uphold their responsibilities and quite possibly they could have shamed them into doing that.

    Horrible for you.

    Go sell guilt some place else, we're all stocked up here.


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    #51
    FixdePitchmark
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Go sell guilt some place else, we're all stocked up here.

    What guilt do you have.

    You should only have guilt if you are guilty.


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    #52
    Chris.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭Chris.


    0127647 wrote: »
    Errr No its not.
    Errr elaborate please. What's not?


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    #53
    triple nipple
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    Richard Hillman wrote:
    It is the outright false pretences that annoy me. There are beds available already. The ones on the street are on drink or drugs, of which they have stated Apollo house is a dry hostel.


    Not all of them. Many are on the street as it's simply just too dangerous to stay in the facilities available. Cop on and dont make rediculous sweeping generalisations.


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    #54
    fryup
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    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Glen Hansard is Ireland's greatest ever musician and he can do whatever the hell he likes for all I care.

    That's all I have to add to this.

    Thank you, Glen


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    #55
    Gringo180
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    dor843088 wrote: »
    Embarrassing watching this guy, a multi millionaire crying on tv about homeless people when he could house those 40 people he cares so much about with the stroke of a pen. I wonder if he loses sleep about the issue from his high walled mansion. Or does he want people who actually pay tax in this country on the money they have earned to house them. A minimum wage worker probably has paid more towards social issues and services in this country than this guy and hes on tv crying.

    You are a retard.


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    #56
    Nermal
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    Let's hope Glen doesn't try to house the twats from Belvo who sleep out for a night, I'm not sure the country could survive a vortex of vapid moralising on that scale.


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    #57
    0127647
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    Chris. wrote: »
    Errr elaborate please. What's not?

    It is not the responsibility of the government to house these people.


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    #58
    Gringo180
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    The mere notion that you cannot raise awareness for a huge social crisis in your country because you are a millionaire is nothing other than laughable. Maybe if the man was evading tax you would have a point but other than that the OP is talking through his hat.

    I suppose Band-Aid was a ridiculous idea too. All those millionaires raising awareness for famine, starvation and premature death in Africa, how dare they!


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    #59
    diomed
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    Leinster House will be free for Christmas (free for most of the year as well).


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    #60
    0127647
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    The mere notion that you cannot raise awareness for a huge social crisis in your country because you are a millionaire is nothing other than laughable. Maybe if the man was evading tax you would have a point but other than that the OP is talking through his hat.

    I suppose Band-Aid was a ridiculous idea too. All those millionaires raising awareness for famine, starvation and premature death in Africa, how dare they!

    What good is awareness? Im sure 99% of the country are already "aware" of the "Homeless Problem". Its peddled in the media every 2nd day.


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    #61
    Wes Palmer Lee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭Wes Palmer Lee


    It's wrong surely to see whats going on there but the question I ask myself is if it was a cancer care unit in Sligo being shut down how many of these guys would turn up with their guitars?


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