Louise O Neill on rape culture.

midnight city · 21-12-2016 08:59AM

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

One of Louise's followers is feeling triggered.

https://courtneyfromtheinternet.com/2016/12/19/a-very-alternative-blogmas-3/

She refers to him as a white man as if they are some sort of enemy. Her male relations are prob all white men. But she is just parroting the nonsense she reads online from her hero's in America no doubt. It's pathetic.

Wibbs · 21-12-2016 09:05AM

Adult acts like whinging petulant teen, doesn't want to be treated like a whinging petulant teen. So, more of the same really. The lack of insight with these muppets and let's be frank, many of those who troll them, is staggering for me.

midnight city wrote: »

She refers to him as a white man as if they are some sort of enemy. Her male relations are prob all white men. But she is just parroting the nonsense she reads online from her hero's in America no doubt. It's pathetic.

Aye, just like eejits shouting "cuck" online and I'd be willing to bet she also possesses that daft mid atlantic accent so prevalent of late. Likely calls her mother "mom", if she regards her much at all(daddy is usually the focus to a farcical faux freudian degree).

midnight city · 21-12-2016 09:53AM

Wibbs wrote: »

Adult acts like whinging petulant teen, doesn't want to be treated like a whinging petulant teen. So, more of the same really. The lack of insight with these muppets and let's be frank, many of those who troll them, is staggering for me.

Aye, just like eejits shouting "cuck" online and I'd be willing to bet she also possesses that daft mid atlantic accent so prevalent of late. Likely calls her mother "mom", if she regards her much at all(daddy is usually the focus to a farcical faux freudian degree).

Id bet her white father doted on her, provided her with everything. Its such self indulgent nonsense. As many have pointed out before regarding others like her she is probably among the most privileged people on earth. A middle class western woman.

Potatoeman · 21-12-2016 01:10PM

midnight city wrote: »

She refers to him as a white man as if they are some sort of enemy. Her male relations are prob all white men. But she is just parroting the nonsense she reads online from her hero's in America no doubt. It's pathetic.

Maybe she should go and live in the Middle East and report how great it is being away from the white man. :rolleyes:

darkdubh · 21-12-2016 06:35PM

Oh dear.

https://twitter.com/notcourtneylove/status/811542378741989376

midnight city · 21-12-2016 06:39PM

darkdubh wrote: »

Is she Irish? Louise O Neill goes on with that white male line a lot too. Might make some sense in The States but sounds very silly coming out with stuff like that in an Irish context.

It's embarrassing.

Widdershins · 21-12-2016 06:42PM

Fond of the hyperbole isn't ze?

midnight city · 21-12-2016 06:50PM

Widdershins wrote: »

Fond of the hyperbole isn't ze?

They don't realise they are about to be kicked out of the opression tent soon. The tide is beginning to turn on white women and white gay men. They will soon be reclassified as privileged.

ivytwine · 21-12-2016 07:03PM

In a country of- what 90%- white people?

I won't say racism isn't an issue in Ireland. I won't say that white men and women aren't more privileged than black people in this country- they sure are. I also will not say Ireland is perfect. It's not, and the fact that something like Apollo House has to happen shows Ireland is in trouble.

But importing the terminology of a broken society like America with its systematic and structural racism? That's no way to get taken seriously.

Ralf and Florian · 21-12-2016 07:45PM

darkdubh wrote: »

Oh dear.

https://twitter.com/notcourtneylove/status/811542378741989376

Hmmm. Is she sure some of those commenting aren't members of Tullamores gender fluid Samoan community?

Dick phelan · 21-12-2016 08:09PM

The white man thing really is laughable in this country, almost everyone in this country is white ffs, how can white privilege exist in this country when almost everyone is a pasty white person. Just trying to copy the type of nonsense from the American left, In Ireland it's even more embarrassing.

Richard Hillman · 21-12-2016 08:16PM

darkdubh wrote: »

Oh dear.

https://twitter.com/notcourtneylove/status/811542378741989376

Psycho.

py2006 · 21-12-2016 08:25PM

It's humorous they think its only men who question their attitude /comments!

Wibbs · 21-12-2016 08:30PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Psycho.

More than a tad harsh Id say. I reckon it's simpler than that. Standard operational adolescent angst with added standard operational adolescent attention seeking* made atomic powered by social media. Throw in imported US college gender war daftness and simmer. Never mind that increasingly in some quarters victimhood is not something to be overcome, but something to be wallowed in. Better yet if one can gather other victims to wallow with.

Again ArseBook and Twatter fuel this kinda thing and make it far more publicly viewable than for previous generations. Older folks reading and tutting may have an ould look back to their putting the world to rights while at university stuff and how embarrassing it may seem today. Difference is they could be forgotten. Much harder today.

*BTW nada particularly wrong with that. It's part of the job of being an adolescent, though adolescence seems to be lengthening well into the twenties in western society. Among the chattering classes anyway. It's often how real insight, both personal and societal comes along. The old are usually too rigid to work that angle and usually starts to look even dafter when they try.

py2006 · 21-12-2016 09:11PM

Wibbs wrote: »

More than a tad harsh Id say. I reckon it's simpler than that. Standard operational adolescent angst with added standard operational adolescent attention seeking* made atomic powered by social media. Throw in imported US college gender war daftness and simmer. Never mind that increasingly in some quarters victimhood is not something to be overcome, but something to be wallowed in. Better yet if one can gather other victims to wallow with.

Again ArseBook and Twatter fuel this kinda thing and make it far more publicly viewable than for previous generations. Older folks reading and tutting may have an ould look back to their putting the world to rights while at university stuff and how embarrassing it may seem today. Difference is they could be forgotten. Much harder today.

Mr. W, SIR, if you had a fan club I would join it. If you wrote a book, I would read it (if signed), if you had a podcast I would listen to it, if I could vote for anything you aspire to I would do it.

Online, anonymous, white man, troll fan here

mzungu · 21-12-2016 09:45PM

In the world of identity politics, do albinos in places like Africa and the sub-continent have white privilege?

Widdershins · 21-12-2016 09:48PM

Wibbs wrote: »

More than a tad harsh Id say. I reckon it's simpler than that. Standard operational adolescent angst with added standard operational adolescent attention seeking* made atomic powered by social media. Throw in imported US college gender war daftness and simmer. Never mind that increasingly in some quarters victimhood is not something to be overcome, but something to be wallowed in. Better yet if one can gather other victims to wallow with.

Again ArseBook and Twatter fuel this kinda thing and make it far more publicly viewable than for previous generations. Older folks reading and tutting may have an ould look back to their putting the world to rights while at university stuff and how embarrassing it may seem today. Difference is they could be forgotten. Much harder today.

*BTW nada particularly wrong with that. It's part of the job of being an adolescent, though adolescence seems to be lengthening well into the twenties in western society. Among the chattering classes anyway. It's often how real insight, both personal and societal comes along. The old are usually too rigid to work that angle and usually starts to look even dafter when they try.

LON's style of writing made me assume she is in her late teens or early twenties, so I was surprised to read that she is over 30.

deaddonkey15 · 21-12-2016 09:49PM

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

One of Louise's followers is feeling triggered.

https://courtneyfromtheinternet.com/2016/12/19/a-very-alternative-blogmas-3/

This is just so utterly pathetic. The tone of the writing and intentional crossed out parts was just nauseating. Why is the colour of the guy's skin important? She is obviously just a silly, impressionable girl who has been gulping down the Louise O'Neill/Una Mullaly kool-aid, as evidenced by her brown nosing tweets to her hero, desperate for a re-tweet.

Not that it's worth engaging with these sorts, but one can see why someone would rather remain anonymous if they do. A few screenshots, and a biased article that only presents half an argument sent in to the echo chamber would cause a lot of unnecessary public hassle for someone only interested in a reasonable debate. We mustn't forget that the likes of this girl and Louise O'Neill are attention seekers first and foremost so they have no problem sending this sh*t out to their sheep.

Ulysses Gaze · 21-12-2016 09:53PM

Widdershins wrote: »

LON's style of writing made me assume she is in her late teens or early twenties, so I was surprised to read that she is over 30.

I'd agree.

The writing in her columns makes her come across as if she is stuck in emotional arrested development.

py2006 · 21-12-2016 09:58PM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

I'd agree.

The writing in her columns makes her come across as if she is stuck in emotional arrested development.

Have you noticed how she separates every sentence into separate paragraphs? If I did that at school I would be berated by my teacher.

midnight city · 21-12-2016 10:00PM

I see this girl Courtney refers to herself as a writer on twitter. She no doubt sees the success o'neill and mullally are getting by writing about the so called patriarchy and feminist 'victimhood' and wants a slice of the pie. Who could blame her. The industry is there, most newspapers have someone dedicated to the subject. There is even TV work out if it.

py2006 · 21-12-2016 10:08PM

This YouTuber (JaclynGlen) does great vids. Una/Louise needs to watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FODsUeHZ13o

Its a response to a recent video entitled, 2017 New Years Resolutions for White Guys.

Ulysses Gaze · 21-12-2016 10:24PM

py2006 wrote: »

This YouTuber (JaclynGlen) does great vids. Una/Louise needs to watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FODsUeHZ13o

Its a response to a recent video entitled, 2017 New Years Resolutions for White Guys.

The original video they are discussing was made by those clowns at MTV.

They got so much heat for it that they took it down.

21-12-2016 10:38PM

The Courtney one has blocked/"protected" her tweets unless your a confirmed follower of hers

Ralf and Florian · 21-12-2016 10:40PM

mzungu wrote: »

In the world of identity politics, do albinos in places like Africa and the sub-continent have white privilege?

Not in Tanzania anyway.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/tanzania-albinos/

Richard Hillman · 21-12-2016 10:48PM

Sasha Wide Squash wrote: »

The Courtney one has blocked/"protected" her tweets unless your a confirmed follower of hers

The lack of "exposure" will KILL HER. She'll be back soon.

21-12-2016 10:57PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

The lack of "exposure" will KILL HER. She'll be back soon.

nah id say she'll love it as it will only be the ones who "subscribe" to her nonsense and be alone in her "safe space"

mzungu · 21-12-2016 11:45PM

Ralf and Florian wrote: »

Not in Tanzania anyway.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/tanzania-albinos/

Aye, they do get a very rough time of it. I hear in Malawi it is especially bad.

If we are to follow the original theories of "privilege" and remove it from its current function on Twitter/FB as a means to shut down debate. It refers to the structures of power in society and who benefits from it. Using sub-Saharan Africa as an example, albinos are the minority within their society and are usually ostracised (and worse) because they look different. Then who there has the privilege? It would be the ruling class (and the slowly growing middle class) as they would be the ones who the power structures of that society benefit.

In the case of an albino, they would most likely have a worse time than even the poorest in the shanty towns. So, going by that then one could say that even people living in abject poverty in Bangui or Dar Es Salaam have "privilege". But, of course, this is not true at all. That would be one of my issues with the term "white privilege" or "privilege" as it simply ends up reducing somebody to just their colour irregardless of background. To one degree or another, different races, and even individuals, have some form of privilege that gives them an advantage over another. Thus making it a bit of a pointless navel gazing exercise.

In sub-Saharan Africa the ones with "privilege" are not white, yet nobody goes around calling out "black privilege" or anything like that. Ditto in Asia. It seems to primarily just be a western self-loathing thing.

Widdershins · 21-12-2016 11:48PM

mzungu wrote: »

Aye, they do get a very rough time of it. I hear in Malawi it is especially bad.

If we are to follow the original theories of "privilege" and remove it from its current function on Twitter/FB as a means to shut down debate. It refers to the structures of power in society and who benefits from it. Using sub-Saharan Africa as an example, albinos are the minority within their society and are usually ostracised (and worse) because they look different. Then who there has the privilege? It would be the ruling class (and the slowly growing middle class) as they would be the ones who the power structures of that society benefit.

In the case of an albino, they would most likely have a worse time than even the poorest in the shanty towns. So, going by that then one could say that even people living in abject poverty in Bangui or Dar Es Salaam have "privilege". But, of course, this is not true at all. That would be one of my issues with the term "white privilege" or "privilege" as it simply ends up reducing somebody to just their colour irregardless of background. To one degree or another, different races, and even individuals, have some form of privilege that gives them an advantage over another. Thus making it a bit of a pointless navel gazing exercise.

In sub-Saharan Africa the ones with "privilege" are not white, yet nobody goes around calling out "black privilege" or anything like that. Ditto in Asia. It seems to primarily just be a western self-loathing thing.

Ahhh. So much common sense in one post

RabbleRouser2k · 22-12-2016 02:10AM

Water John wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/rape-consent-cork-jazz-column-jen-hough-3063524-Nov2016/
This is worth a read.
I think Louise may be extreme but abusing her does nothing for anyone's argument.
I would say to all, listen to how people feel.

To me that article is pure balderdash. IF it were true, name the street-protect other women walking in that area. She doesn't, so I call balderdash-cos anything else would need censorship.

Telling this 'story' with a 'men hunting for a rape victim' mentality sounds all the more bizarre and silly but not protecting others from the supposed area, is a completely dangerous thing to do. Put it this way-if there was a poor bridge that someone could fall through, break their neck, and die-I would tell as many people as I could where that bridge was. She doesn't-hence why I don't believe an ounce of her story.

Louise O Neill on rape culture.

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