Mick Wallace is bankrupt....

martingriff · 19-12-2016 09:30PM

Water John wrote: »

Kbannon, you should do your research. MW was dealing with the Nama issue and Cerbus long before his loan was sold by ACC to Cerebus.
He was always socially concious. Remember his banners on his cranes?
Great work too with Wexford Youth.

Really always socially conscious?

Let me remind you of is lack of paying taxes and pensions

Donal55 · 19-12-2016 09:35PM

martingriff wrote: »

so you don't mind some shenanigans. So how do you decide which can be lambasted and which can't. I mean lets say FF FG Lab is declared bankrupt would you care as less as you do here or because it is someone from FF FG LAB etc hey should be hung drawn and quatered.

Has Wallance done some work in various scandals? Yes
Should that protect him from been outraged in relation to his taxes, pensions and bankruptcy? NO

Why should Wallace be lambasted over the garda whistleblowing cases. He did good work there?

Stheno · 19-12-2016 09:38PM

kbannon wrote: »

Didn't Cerberus buy his loan book in late 2014 (ACC had it had in receivership since 2011)?
Didn't he first speak out about Cerberus, Project Eagle & NAMA in July 2015?

http://www.ohigginssolicitors.ie/mick-wallace%E2%80%99s-property-company-being-wound-us-firm
http://www.thejournal.ie/project-eagle-timeline-2978770-Sep2016/

As for him being socially conscious, don't forget that he had to be forced to pay his employees pensions. He still hasn't paid his share of taxes. That's not being socially conscious!

Cerebrus bought his 2 million ulsterbank debt

He owes acc another 20 million acc refused to support him going into the new personal insolvency arrangements which is why he was declared bankrupt

martingriff · 19-12-2016 09:43PM

Donal55 wrote: »

Why should Wallace be lambasted over the garda whistleblowing cases. He did good work there?

Where have I said that?

What I said was those good works should not prevent him from been lambasted over his taxes, in relation to pensions and his bankruptcy.

Donal55 · 19-12-2016 09:46PM

martingriff wrote: »

Where have I said that?

What I said was those good works should not prevent him from been lambasted over his taxes, in relation to pensions and his bankruptcy.

You obviously never read my previous post where I said that Wallace was in the wrong and should not get any special treatment from ISI.

Donal55 · 19-12-2016 09:47PM

Donal55 wrote: »

No gra for Wallace here, he owes revenue and others, he should pay up. Credit to him for the Garda whistleblowing story, what he wears doesn't concern me.

For MartinGriff.

martingriff · 19-12-2016 10:03PM

Donal55 wrote: »

You obviously never read my previous post where I said that Wallace was in the wrong and should not get any special treatment from ISI.

I was replying to this post had not seen your earlier which I infered as you rather Wallaces shenanigans and not others.

Donal55 wrote: »

In fairness I'd prefer Wallace's attempts than then likes of Dicey Reilly's shenanigans with Primary Care Centres.

I see now I took it up wrong and I apologise

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 19-12-2016 10:27PM

kbannon wrote: »

OK then. Answer my question then
Would you turn up to a wedding in a tee shirt?
Or court?
Or a job interview?

I don't expect a suit. I do expect that he looks smart and respectful. His "socialist" comrades can do it, why can't he?

However how he dresses does affect how he shows respect. Would you keep your job in Tesco if you didn't wear your uniform? What about being a teacher or a garda or GP?

What does it matter how I would dress at any of those events? Either I say "no I wouldn't" and somehow that automatically invalidates my point, or I say "Yes I would" which also somehow invalidates my point.

He isn't attending a wedding, court room or a job interview, he's attending work. Would you live in light house if your name was Tom?

How he dresses does not have any effect on "respect" (why that's important is another point). It only has an effect on your perception of respect, which is really stupid.

He also doesn't work as a Guard, GP, teacher or in Tesco. What's the uniform of a GP or teacher anyway? Should I get upset if my teacher or GP wears a polo shirt?

His clothes are fine, if only more would move away from image and focus more on abilities and traits.

learn_more · 19-12-2016 10:30PM

I always wondered why he never wore a suit in the Dail and looks like a tramp.

Seth Brundle · 19-12-2016 10:33PM

Alondra Strong Tomb wrote: »

What does it matter how I would dress at any of those events? Either I say "no I wouldn't" and somehow that automatically invalidates my point, or I say "Yes I would" which also somehow invalidates my point.

He isn't attending a wedding, court room or a job interview, he's attending work. Would you live in light house if your name was Tom?

How he dresses does not have any effect on "respect" (why that's important is another point). It only has an effect on your perception of respect, which is really stupid.

He also doesn't work as a Guard, GP, teacher or in Tesco. What's the uniform of a GP or teacher anyway? Should I get upset if my teacher or GP wears a polo shirt?

His clothes are fine, if only more would move away from image and focus more on abilities and traits.

You're the one that keeps wanting me to discuss his poor fashion choices. If you don't want me to respond then don't ask me questions.
Let's see you discuss my other points on him then.

SEPT 23 1989 · 19-12-2016 11:01PM

He was only 23 when he wrote Stairway to Heaven

Alf Stewart. · 19-12-2016 11:12PM

So Wallace has been made bankrupt, and because of this, and his other irregularities with the tax man, he therefore should be slung out of the Dail?

A sitting Health minister got named in Stubbs Gazette for defaulting on his debts, and our current finance minister was embroiled in defrauding our Exchequer for almost ten years, but sure at least they dress in suits?

Some people need to take a long hard look at themselves.

19-12-2016 11:14PM

The suits thing doesnt bother me too much in all honesty. I couldnt give a fúck what they wear. In fact many politicians would be better if they cut to the chase and wore clown costumes altogether. More fitting

Seth Brundle · 19-12-2016 11:20PM

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

So Wallace has been made bankrupt, and because of this, and his other irregularities with the tax man, he therefore should be slung out of the Dail?

A sitting Health minister got named in Stubbs Gazette for defaulting on his debts, and our current finance minister was embroiled in defrauding our Exchequer for almost ten years, but sure at least they dress in suits?

Some people need to take a long hard look at themselves.

If you're referring to me, I responded to a post about suits. I also mentioned about how he managed to give his brother his vineyard and also how he didn't pay the VAT and pensions. I also believe that he had a grudge against Cerberus and this is what motivated his actions against NAMA.
However, for some reason people fixated on comments regarding his looks.
The man is a former property developer, and no different to any of the others who helped bollix up this country.
He is in no way better than Reilly.

Alf Stewart. · 19-12-2016 11:21PM

kbannon wrote: »

If you're referring to me, I responded to a post about suits. I also mentioned about how he managed to give his brother his vineyard and also how he didn't pay the VAT and pensions. I also believe that he had a grudge against Cerberus and this is what motivated his actions against NAMA.
However, for some reason people fixated on comments regarding his looks.
The man is a former property developer, and no different to any of the others who helped bollix up this country.
He is in no way better than Reilly.

Relax. It was a general observation.

Seth Brundle · 19-12-2016 11:24PM

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

Relax. It was a general observation.

Maybe so but the man is put up on a pedastel but is no better than any of the rest of them in the Dáil.
I don't understand how or why people could look up to him.

19-12-2016 11:24PM

kbannon wrote: »

If you're referring to me, I responded to a post about suits. I also mentioned about how he managed to give his brother his vineyard and also how he didn't pay the VAT and pensions. I also believe that he had a grudge against Cerberus and this is what motivated his actions against NAMA.
However, for some reason people fixated on comments regarding his looks.
The man is a former property developer, and no different to any of the others who helped bollix up this country.
He is in no way better than Reilly.

Spot on. This is the bit i take most exception to. This man is pretending to be a socialist and masquerading as the solution when he was part of the problem all along.

Alf Stewart. · 19-12-2016 11:31PM

kbannon wrote: »

Maybe so but the man is put up on a pedastel but is no better than any of the rest of them in the Dáil.
I don't understand how or why people could look up to him.

Definitely. I agree 100%.'

Seth Brundle · 19-12-2016 11:34PM

Alf Stewart. wrote: »

Definitely. I agree 100%.'

WTF is going on? Cue Twilight Zone music!

quadrifoglio verde · 19-12-2016 11:36PM

While I'm no fan of his for the way he screwed the taxpayer over, he is democratically elected by the people of Wexford. Due to the way we elect people to our parliament, only they have the power to remove him.
They knew about what he had gotten up to regarding revenue at the last election, they knew that he was insolvent and unable to pay his debts and yet they were still satisfied to re elect him.
For that reason he has as much right to be there as any other member of the dail.

He'll just have to resort to nice n easy as opposed to Peter Mark for the next 12 months to 3 years

BeardyDevoy · 19-12-2016 11:58PM

Mick Wallace ran a very successful business for over 20 years. He provided jobs which put food on the tables of many hundreds of workers. He paid out a lot of money including a 10% tax to the state on the wages he paid out ( Employers PRSI). I for one will b slow to knock him.
Can the Wallace Bashers on this thread ask themselvs honestly "how many jobs they have created."
I already know the answer, because if they knew how difficult it is to even create one job, they would not be Wallace Bashing the way they are.

Laeot · 20-12-2016 12:06AM

BeardyDevoy wrote: »

Mick Wallace ran a very successful business for over 20 years. He provided jobs which put food on the tables of many hundreds of workers. He paid out a lot of money including a 10% tax to the state on the wages he paid out ( Employers PRSI). I for one will b slow to knock him.
Can the Wallace Bashers on this thread ask themselvs honestly "how many jobs they have created."
I already know the answer, because if they knew how difficult it is to even create one job, they would not be Wallace Bashing the way they are.

Hi Mick.

suicide_circus · 20-12-2016 12:07AM

Leave worzel gummidge alone

20-12-2016 12:11AM

BeardyDevoy wrote: »

Mick Wallace ran a very successful business for over 20 years. He provided jobs which put food on the tables of many hundreds of workers. He paid out a lot of money including a 10% tax to the state on the wages he paid out ( Employers PRSI). I for one will b slow to knock him.
Can the Wallace Bashers on this thread ask themselvs honestly "how many jobs they have created."
I already know the answer, because if they knew how difficult it is to even create one job, they would not be Wallace Bashing the way they are.

He ran up massive debts with the banks that the taxpayer is now picking up. Im not going to have a go at the people in Wexford considering we are returning an even bigger crook in Tipp

Seth Brundle · 20-12-2016 12:50AM

BeardyDevoy wrote: »

He paid out a lot of money including a 10% tax to the state on the wages he paid out ( Employers PRSI). I for one will b slow to knock him.

Leaving aside the issue of not paying theVAT or pension payments that he should have been paying, are you giving him praise for paying employers PRSI, an employer's obligation?
Wow, so how highly would you praise an employer that dis pay their VAT properly and didn't hold onto their employees pension contributions?

astrofool · 20-12-2016 01:00AM

This will only play into the persona he plays for the people of Wexford, I would never ever vote for him, but he knows how to keep himself on the gravy train. He's a developer who let the state pay his debts who got elected when developers caused the state's finances to collapse forcing austerity on everyone, he's a bloody genius. I don't think he even has any real policies other than "stick it to the man" and "fund the Wexford youths".

thebaz · 20-12-2016 01:17AM

laugh wrote: »

So if your business becomes unviable and owes money because of a global economic crash you are a criminal?

If he was left with his assets, he might have been able to pay his debtors.

He never paid his VAT bill or many debtors - just find it a bit nauseating to be lectured on everything that is wrong in the country when he is far from perfect himself - get his affairs in order then lecture me on everything that is wrong in the state and I will then listen

screamer · 20-12-2016 01:12PM

BeardyDevoy wrote: »

Mick Wallace ran a very successful business for over 20 years. He provided jobs which put food on the tables of many hundreds of workers. He paid out a lot of money including a 10% tax to the state on the wages he paid out ( Employers PRSI). I for one will b slow to knock him.
Can the Wallace Bashers on this thread ask themselvs honestly "how many jobs they have created."
I already know the answer, because if they knew how difficult it is to even create one job, they would not be Wallace Bashing the way they are.

And went bang owing 30 million..... taxpayers picking up loads of that bill that he will never repay......... that takes food out of current workers mouths in the form of taxes, and that negates all the other good stuff.
Jobs are easy to create, it's keeping a business going and being prudent and responsible is the hard bit.............................but you'd know that if you had a business yourself.

Seth Brundle · 21-12-2016 12:47AM

Despite having a few bob to eat in restaurants, someone isn't paying off their mortgages...
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/mick-wallace-over-235-000-in-arrears-on-mortgages-1.2913248

namloc1980 · 21-12-2016 12:51AM

kbannon wrote: »

Despite having a few bob to eat in restaurants, someone isn't paying off their mortgages...
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/mick-wallace-over-235-000-in-arrears-on-mortgages-1.2913248

He's a bankrupt. He doesn't owe those debts anymore.

Mick Wallace is bankrupt....

Comments