El Presidente Trump

Igotadose · 16-12-2016 09:22AM

ebbsy wrote: »

Jill Stein should be locked up in jail. Along with Billary of course.

Never mind that pesky 'not tried for anything or even indicted'. This is the Trump follower world - don't like 'em, lock 'em up. Jill Stein, now there's some obvious criminal behavior, exercising her free will to demand a recount in a closely-contested election. Woo.

Kind of pointless to discuss anything with anyone that takes such views. I think they'd be happier in Russia who don't bother with such niceties. Heck, all the posting about the awful Americans and how they caused all the problems in the world, take the next shuttle to Aleppo and help out Assad - he doesn't bother with trials, either.

Trolls... makes me wish boards had a block feature.

Zubeneschamali · 16-12-2016 10:03AM

ebbsy wrote: »

Obama can't go any lower at this point.

Obama's latest ratings: 54.1% approve, 41% disapprove.

Meanwhile: Gallup says 48 percent of Americans approve of Republican Trump's transition and 48 percent disapprove. At this time in 2008, 75 percent approved of Democrat Barack Obama's transition and only 17 percent disapproved. At a comparable point in January 2001, 65 percent of Americans approved of Republican George W. Bush's transition and 26 percent disapproved. In late 1992, 67 percent approved of Democrat Bill Clinton's transition and 15 percent disapproved.

So Trump is starting out as the most unpopular President in modern times, and it is always downhill from the honeymoon period.

In 4 years, he could be the most hated President ever, including all the slavers.

ebbsy · 16-12-2016 10:20AM

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Obama's latest ratings: 54.1% approve, 41% disapprove.

Meanwhile: Gallup says 48 percent of Americans approve of Republican Trump's transition and 48 percent disapprove. At this time in 2008, 75 percent approved of Democrat Barack Obama's transition and only 17 percent disapproved. At a comparable point in January 2001, 65 percent of Americans approved of Republican George W. Bush's transition and 26 percent disapproved. In late 1992, 67 percent approved of Democrat Bill Clinton's transition and 15 percent disapproved.

So Trump is starting out as the most unpopular President in modern times, and it is always downhill from the honeymoon period.

In 4 years, he could be the most hated President ever, including all the slavers.

Yeah the polls can certainly be trusted.

"If you make the tragic mistake of using [chemical] weapons, there will be consequences." – President Obama, Dec. 3rd, 2012

Tell that to the kids in Syria.

Hank Scorpio · 16-12-2016 11:08AM

I'm just posting this here because it's probably not thread worthy and everyone is familiar with each other in this thread by now. I posted a thread with it yesterday and regretted doing so after a rake of beers. Since you're talking about Obama it seems fitting.

Anyway here's the story. Two of the experts they used have sworn affidavits and it's going to congress.

"On Thursday, officials with the Sheriff's Office said, in a statement, that "the overwhelming forensic evidence shows the posted document is nothing more than a "created" document - pieced together using another source document."

"According to officials, there are allegedly nine "points of forgery" on Obama's birth certificate, and words letters and dates, according to officials, were digitally copied and pasted."

http://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/arizona-news/223931057-story

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/12/15/sheriff-joe-arpaio-probe-proves-obama-birth-certificate-fake/95500958/

Here's the video shown in the press conference but in high quality. Full Screen and 720p it.

There's other evidence like this of the document being layered https://sli.mg/a/jXSwG9 i.e. meaning it was likely created in a program like photograph rather than a direct scan.

I don't know if I care at this stage or what to think. The evidence in the video looks strong imo, I regretted ranting about it last night but I still want to post it to get other peoples views. I know this is the Trump thread but I'll get eaten alive in the Politics forum if I post it there

Igotadose · 16-12-2016 11:18AM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

I'm just posting this here because it's probably not thread worthy and everyone is familiar with each other in this thread by now.

Put it on the conspiracy theory thread where it belongs.

Beer and keyboards don't really go well together.

Hank Scorpio · 16-12-2016 11:28AM

Igotadose wrote: »

Put it on the conspiracy theory thread where it belongs.

Beer and keyboards don't really go well together.

All sobered up now :pac: . It's going to congress so probably they'll draw the same conclusions, nonetheless I find it interesting.

I replied to your post yesterday btw providing the fbi and nbc links you asked for.

Hank Scorpio · 16-12-2016 11:48AM

Assange interview from yesterday on Wikileaks link to Russian Government

Trent Houseboat · 16-12-2016 12:16PM

This is going to be difficult for a lot of Trump fans out there.
In September after claiming that he never said otherwise, Trump said "President Barack Obama was born in the United States. Period"
And we know that everything he says is automatically correct.

But so many of them really want to believe that he's Kenyan, and there's nothing they like more than a story that confirms their beliefs. The only person more honourable than top law enforcement official(for a couple of weeks) and definitely not racist Joe Arpio is the Donald.
We'll have to get the voice of reason, Alex Jones, in to sort this out.

I'd say Ebbs is having a melt down, not knowing who to believe as s/he clutches at locket containing a picture of Jill Stein.

seamus · 16-12-2016 12:30PM

Man goes searching for evidence to support his beliefs and finds it.

Shocking.

Hank Scorpio · 16-12-2016 12:34PM

Forget the Obama conspiracy, what's more worrying is the MSM totally fail to acknowledge the Assange interview where he says the source wasn't Russia and hints at an insider leak. The agenda of the media is clear, they don't even try to hide it anymore. Owned by a 4 or 5 Billionaires and they'll continue to do whatever it takes to discredit Trumps win.

If the CIA released something substantial, then fine, even their director and the FBI have said there's no link between Russia and Wikileaks, it's all Political.

Skylinehead · 16-12-2016 12:38PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Forget the Obama conspiracy

You seem to have trouble doing that, I forgot it existed until you brought it up again. When was that debunked, 5 years ago? More? It was laughable at the time and nothing has changed since.

Hank Scorpio · 16-12-2016 12:42PM

Skylinehead wrote: »

You seem to have trouble doing that, I forgot it existed until you brought it up again. When was that debunked, 5 years ago? More? It was laughable at the time and nothing has changed since.

I find it interesting and yes I'm contradicting myself. The shift has firmly focused onto the Assange interview now though! They have more emails of Podesta and the DNC which are supposedly much juicer than what's been released thus far.

So all the MSM and Clinton Campaign are saying the election was "hacked" by Putin after an anomonyous CIA source told the Washington Post. Wikileaks, the FBI, the CIA director and other agencies have posted conflicting information. What's the game here?

Trent Houseboat · 16-12-2016 12:49PM

You can't just resuscitate the Birther Movement and then tell everyone to ignore it. Trust me I once called the teacher mam in school and even after I told people that my focus had firmly shifted to Pokémon, they continued to laugh at me.

Hank Scorpio · 16-12-2016 12:54PM

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

You can't just resuscitate the Birther Movement and then tell everyone to ignore it. Trust me I once called the teacher mam in school and even after I told people that my focus had firmly shifted to Pokémon, they continued to laugh at me.

Whatever floats your boat.

Christy42 · 16-12-2016 01:05PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

I find it interesting and yes I'm contradicting myself. The shift has firmly focused onto the Assange interview now though! They have more emails of Podesta and the DNC which are supposedly much juicer than what's been released thus far.

How many times have I heard that before:p. They still have found very little of serious substance. Why would they wait this long before releasing the big stuff. Assange said Russia wasn't the source ages. I fail to see how this is new news.

Gotta love arguing against a birthed conspiracy theorist though.

Trent Houseboat · 16-12-2016 01:21PM

Christy42 wrote:

Gotta love arguing against a birthed conspiracy theorist though.

He's also a proponent of the horrible smear campaign against Comet Pizza. Remember when the people who kept claiming that their free speech was being attacked tried to ruin a restaurant and everyone working there just because the owner had differing political views from them.

Hank Scorpio · 16-12-2016 01:22PM

Christy42 wrote: »

How many times have I heard that before:p. They still have found very little of serious substance. Why would they wait this long before releasing the big stuff. Assange said Russia wasn't the source ages. I fail to see how this is new news.

Gotta love arguing against a birthed conspiracy theorist though.

Eh, If you think they've provided very little substance I strongly disagree, Clinton in all likelihood would have won the election without the releases. Emails such as showing Soros directly influencing in the US's foreign policy, undocumented illegal payments from Qatar though the CF, payments from the Saudi government who are funding ISIS, the 20% Uranium sale to Russia. These are all huge stories in their own right and there's many more!

The conspiracy theory is merely reporting a story that came out today. That Sheriffs office is the one making the claims, I am merely the messenger :P People need to lighten up, boards has become very drab the last few years.

Hank Scorpio · 16-12-2016 01:31PM

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

He's also a proponent of the horrible smear campaign against Comet Pizza. Remember when the people who kept claiming that their free speech was being attacked tried to ruin a restaurant and everyone working there just because the owner had differing political views from them.

I wouldn't put huge blame on Assange for that, there was many other factors. I think it's wrong what happened and I feel bad for the honest people working there who now need 3 eyes, it clearly went way over the line.

Billy86 · 16-12-2016 01:35PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

They have more emails of Podesta and the DNC which are supposedly much juicer than what's been released thus far.

Oooohhh, are these "the emails that will super definitely, no questions asked, ultra mega get Hillary arrested!!" then?

Sure haven't heard that one from Wikileaks a silly amount of times before.

Billy86 · 16-12-2016 01:38PM

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

You can't just resuscitate the Birther Movement and then tell everyone to ignore it. Trust me I once called the teacher mam in school and even after I told people that my focus had firmly shifted to Pokémon, they continued to laugh at me.

Sh*t.

Wall.

See what sticks.

Deflect, deflect, deflect... repeat.

Trent Houseboat · 16-12-2016 01:40PM

Hank Scorpio wrote:

Eh, If you think they've provided very little substance I strongly disagree, Clinton in all likelihood would have won the election without the releases. Emails such as showing Soros directly influencing in the US's foreign policy, undocumented illegal payments from Qatar though the CF, payments from the Saudi government who are funding ISIS, the 20% Uranium sale to Russia. These are all huge stories in their own right and there's many more!

The conspiracy theory is merely reporting a story that came out today. That Sheriffs office is the one making the claims, I am merely the messenger People need to lighten up, boards has become very drab the last few years.

Meh, most Americans don't know who George Soros is. The only ones who do are the Breitbarters who check for him under their bed every night. You ask the average person on the street and they couldn't tell you the contents of any of podesta's mail.

I think it just reminded or associated with her own email mess f*ck up to underlie the narrative that she was untrustworthy.

The birther conspiracy for which you are apparently an unwilling a messenger has nothing to do with this thread, and this isn't a news dump, but you bringing it up really did lighten up my day.

Hank Scorpio wrote:

I wouldn't put huge blame on Assange for that, there was many other factors. I think it's wrong what happened and I feel bad for the honest people working there who now need 3 eyes, it clearly went way over the line.

Um, is this a joke?
The conspiracy theorist I referred to was you. I don't think Assange has any blame in people adding 2+2 and getting satanic child sex ring.

Billy86 wrote:

Sh*t.

Wall.

See what sticks.

Deflect, deflect, deflect... repeat.

I tried, but the class was unrelenting.

Hank Scorpio · 16-12-2016 01:41PM

Billy86 wrote: »

Oooohhh, are these "the emails that will super definitely, no questions asked, ultra mega get Hillary arrested!!" then?

Sure haven't heard that one from Wikileaks a silly amount of times before.

Everyone needs life insurance

The FBI and Congress investigations are still ongoing.

Hank Scorpio · 16-12-2016 01:47PM

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

Meh, most Americans don't know who George Soros is. The only ones who do are the Breitbarters who check for him under their bed every night. You ask the average person on the street and they couldn't tell you the contents of any of podesta's mail.

The number 1 talked about story on facebook during October was Wikileaks, so the contents might not be so unknown as you think. If the average Joe doesn't know about Wikileaks, it doesn't mean everyone else should be ignorant about the content.

Um, is this a joke?
The conspiracy theorist I referred to was you. I don't think Assange has any blame in people adding 2+2 and getting satanic child sex ring.

I tried, but the class was unrelenting.

I never said the Comet ping pong stuff was true, imo when the MSM started reporting on it, it was a ploy to remove the focus from the more damning stuff in the releases and a bunch of dodos went for it. Some of the "satanic" stuff is true though, like the private spirit cooking dinners.

Billy86 · 16-12-2016 01:48PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Everyone needs life insurance

The FBI and Congress investigations are still ongoing.

As are the investigations into Russia hacking the US government, and Trump's possible involvement.

And yet the emails that "would super get Hillary arrested" still haven't come.

Hank Scorpio · 16-12-2016 01:54PM

Billy86 wrote: »

As are the investigations into Russia hacking the US government, and Trump's possible involvement.

And yet the emails that "would super get Hillary arrested" still haven't come.

If you bothered watch the link I provided it was mentioned they still have tens of thousands of documents to go through.

Trent Houseboat · 16-12-2016 01:59PM

Hank Scorpio wrote:

I never said the Comet ping pong stuff was true, imo when the MSM started reporting on it, it was a ploy to remove the focus from the more damning stuff in the releases and a bunch of dodos went for it. Some of the "satanic" stuff is true though, like the private spirit cooking dinners.

I know yeah. Weasel words. "Lot of people are speculating online, I'm not one of them but here's what they're saying word for word."

Like your birther nonsense above you're trying to make the claim while at the same time distancing yourself from it.

Trying to fling sh*t while pretending to retain the high ground you never occupied.

Hank Scorpio · 16-12-2016 02:03PM

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

I know yeah. Weasel words. "Lot of people are speculating online, I'm not one of them but here's what they're saying word for word."

Like your birther nonsense above you're trying to make the claim while at the same time distancing yourself from it.

Trying to fling sh*t while pretending to retain the high ground you never occupied.

The information contained in the emails are freely available to everyone, if you perceive me to be on higher ground because I've studied them and you're out of the loop, then you're the one with the problem.

Billy86 · 16-12-2016 02:03PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

If you bothered watch the link I provided it was mentioned they still have tens of thousands of documents to go through.

As they surely do with Trump/Russia.

I'm in work, so lazy youtube video posts are a bit pointless. And you know well that all those emails have been read through along the way, and if the "email that will get Hillary arrested, come back tomorrow to find out more! You won't believe what she did on reply #4!" claims were true, said email would have been passed around Twitter hundreds of thousands of times by now.

Hank Scorpio · 16-12-2016 02:10PM

Billy86 wrote: »

As they surely do with Trump/Russia.

I'm in work, so lazy youtube video posts are a bit pointless. And you know well that all those emails have been read through along the way, and if the "email that will get Hillary arrested, come back tomorrow to find out more! You won't believe what she did on reply #4!" claims were true, said email would have been passed around Twitter hundreds of thousands of times by now.

When there's info on the Trump thing I will gladly eat my words. Right now it's just Assange's word against theres. The CIA director has denied the link as recent as 2 days ago in a live hearing.

About the investigation, I don't think that's how it works. They need to build a case not just pickup a single email and throw handcuffs on somebody.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-republicans-are-already-preparing-for-years-of-investigations-of-clinton/2016/10/26/e153a714-9ac3-11e6-9980-50913d68eacb_story.html?utm_term=.62c358e97b18

"Jason Chaffetz, the Utah congressman wrapping up his first term atop the powerful House Oversight Committee, unendorsed Donald Trump weeks ago. That freed him up to prepare for something else: spending years, come January, probing the record of a President Hillary Clinton.

“It’s a target-rich environment,” the Republican said in an interview in Salt Lake City’s suburbs. “Even before we get to Day One, we’ve got two years’ worth of material already lined up. She has four years of history at the State Department, and it ain’t good.”"

The youtube link was 2 weeks ago so more recent, but you get the idea.

Zubeneschamali · 16-12-2016 02:20PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

The FBI and Congress investigations are still ongoing.

They've got nothing, and she doesn't have to play nice anymore.

El Presidente Trump

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