El Presidente Trump

Christy42 · 15-12-2016 03:38PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

PC culture will never go away, it's a mental disease IMO :pac:

I think he'll build a wall, it might be party fenced or patrolled a long the way but will do the job. Other countries like Hungary who used a combination of wall, fence and patrol have seen 90-95% reductions in immigrants crossing.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/03/28/20160328_fence.jpg

Obamacare they'll probably leave parts of it. In all honesty I don't know enough about it to speculate.

The US has a fence already and you mentioned it as separate to immigration before (or at least I got that impression).

Hungary is a different case as they didn't have a fence and more people were coming over their border than going which isn't the case of the mexican/usa border.

I take you don't care much for a repeal of Obamacare if you don't know enough. What points would you care about?

I get I am reasking and you answered what I asked but I feel I mis worded my question. Whst would make you think he is a horrific president (not next to Hillary or anything, just on his own) if he went back on. Or even did given the issues surrounding him on race, sexism and corruption.

Hank Scorpio · 15-12-2016 03:53PM

Christy42 wrote: »

I get I am reasking and you answered what I asked but I feel I mis worded my question. Whst would make you think he is a horrific president (not next to Hillary or anything, just on his own) if he went back on. Or even did given the issues surrounding him on race, sexism and corruption.

Look, I like him because Europe is starting to turn to sh/t basically. Germany is a mess, Paris a hellhole. There's bomb after bomb going off all the time. People might consider it racist, I was scared as sh/t of the prospect if Hillary got elected given her stance on immigration and apparent denial or lackluster stance of there being a terrorism problem in the west.

The world needs someone like Trump, he's not perfect but it would have been the end had she got in. I'm not going to rabble on about Wikileaks but with her ties to people like Soros and the Saudis, SOMETHING was going on, and I don't know what.

Whatever the worst case Scenario outside of war or economic crisis, I'll take it with Trump, because with her it wouldn't have been long until we had this terror problem get out of hand and land of our own door. We don't need PC right now.

Professor Moriarty · 15-12-2016 03:55PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

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Look, I like him because Europe is starting to turn to sh/t basically. Germany is a mess, Paris a hellhole. There's bomb after bomb going off all the time. People might consider it racist, I was scared as sh/t of the prospect if Hillary got elected given her stance on immigration and apparent denial or lackluster stance of there being a terrorism problem in the west.

The world needs someone like Trump, he's not perfect but it would have been the end had she got in. I'm not going to rabble on about Wikileaks but with her ties to people like Soros and the Saudis, SOMETHING was going on, and I don't know what.

Whatever the worst case Scenario outside of war or economic crisis, I'll take it with Trump, because with her it wouldn't have been long until we had this terror problem get out of hand and land of our own door. We don't need PC right now.

How will Trump stop bombs exploding in Germany?

Hank Scorpio · 15-12-2016 03:59PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

How will Trump stop bombs exploding in Germany?

Will he keep funding and arming terrorists like the current US Government do?

Whatever he does it's an improvement over the shower that's in there now.

Cienciano · 15-12-2016 04:01PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

That map just shows what a kicking he gave her. How can anyone dispute his win. Look at the map for gods sake, annihilation.

That map is pretty much urban vs rural areas.

Zubeneschamali · 15-12-2016 04:01PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Look, I like him because Europe is starting to turn to sh/t basically. Germany is a mess, Paris a hellhole. There's bomb after bomb going off all the time. People might consider it racist, I was scared as sh/t of the prospect if Hillary got elected

So the Lion, the Scarecrow and the Tin Man all voted for Trump, while only Dorothy and Toto voted for Clinton. I see.

Jelle1880 · 15-12-2016 04:01PM

'Germany is a mess, Paris a hellhole'... When was the last time you went to either ?

This just shows me you're buying into the whole hysterical idea that Europe is about to be destroyed by the evil Muslim invader.

And that doesn't mean there aren't issues that need to be addressed about immigration and radicalisation, but talk about blowing things out of proportion...

BoatMad · 15-12-2016 04:04PM

Look, I like him because Europe is starting to turn to sh/t basically. Germany is a mess, Paris a hellhole. There's bomb after bomb going off all the time. People might consider it racist, I was scared as sh/t of the prospect if Hillary got elected given her stance on immigration and apparent denial or lackluster stance of there being a terrorism problem in the west.

as the famous breakfast ad might say, " You're right, you'd hate it, dont come here, we want it for ourselves anyway , thanks "

Professor Moriarty · 15-12-2016 04:08PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Will he keep funding and arming terrorists like the current US Government do?

Whatever he does it's an improvement over the shower that's in there now.

Based on his rhetoric and the people he has advising him, I'd worry that more bombs will go off, not less.

seamus · 15-12-2016 04:14PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

Look, I like him because Europe is starting to turn to sh/t basically. Germany is a mess, Paris a hellhole. There's bomb after bomb going off all the time.

You're buying into the bullsh1t I'm afraid. You need to examine the facts for yourself and not get sucked in by the fear mongering.

http://www.datagraver.com/case/people-killed-by-terrorism-per-year-in-western-europe-1970-2015

Europe has seen a small spike in Islamic-related attacks in the last two years, but it's still historically low and certainly way off the point where it's "turning to sh1t".

You're still multiple times safer in Europe than most other places on earth.

Trent Houseboat · 15-12-2016 04:19PM

Jelle1880 wrote:

'Germany is a mess, Paris a hellhole'... When was the last time you went to either ?

This just shows me you're buying into the whole hysterical idea that Europe is about to be destroyed by the evil Muslim invader.

And that doesn't mean there aren't issues that need to be addressed about immigration and radicalisation, but talk about blowing things out of proportion...

Baffling isn't it. They're obviously being fed this by some trusted online news source like patriotlibertynewsus.ru .

The map posted a few pages back shows the same. Like people who've been in Paris or talked to Germans, people in cities aren't buying the terrorists are coming to get them any minute line. Because these people work, live and socialise with people from different backgrounds, religions and sexualities.
It's the empty red expanses with one voter per ten square kilometres and he hasn't met a person he isn't related to in weeks who fear that the commie jihaislmaists gays are coming to adopt his sons and outlaw his guns.

ScumLord · 15-12-2016 04:22PM

He's right! the last time I went to Berlin the train was 20 seconds late and in Paris a waiter smiled when he took my order. What's the world coming too?

Hank Scorpio · 15-12-2016 04:30PM

Jelle1880 wrote: »

'Germany is a mess, Paris a hellhole'... When was the last time you went to either ?

This just shows me you're buying into the whole hysterical idea that Europe is about to be destroyed by the evil Muslim invader.

And that doesn't mean there aren't issues that need to be addressed about immigration and radicalisation, but talk about blowing things out of proportion...

What about in 5 years time, or 10 years? Just because you visit a part of a country doesn't mean other places in that Country are free from severe cultural and ideology problems. There's videos of immigrants ripping up entire streets in Paris. There is a problem. Perhaps I exaggerated but it exists none the less.

There's been 12 terrorism attacks in France this year so far and most of them are attributed to immigration and multiculturalism difficulties. Do you think the problem is going to go away in time or get better? So say Europe doesn't have a problem right now is wrong IMO. Remember during the summer the uproar that was going on?

Something needs to be done in the middle east to fix the problem and I have zero faith HRC is capable of doing it. She created a lot of the mess. Trump is untested but he's the only other option. She has strong ties to countries funding ISIS and I simply do not trust her.

It's not just terrorism. There seems to be this thinking problem creeping into modern culture where saying things like Merry Christmas is now considered politically incorrect or even insulting. Some stores refuse to hang signs with the words in fear of respite. The leftist push is becoming very tolerant of others yet at the same time showing disdain for the average person, and me no likey.

I'm out, need sleep. Watch out for the Putin nukes

ScumLord · 15-12-2016 04:36PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

There's been 12 terrorism attacks in France this year so far and most of them are attributed to immigration and multiculturalism difficulties. Do you think the problem is going to go away in time or get better? So say Europe doesn't have a problem right now is wrong IMO. Remember during the summer the uproar that was going on

Was there 12 terrorist attacks in Paris? I remember hearing about 3 or 4, but not 12..

Trump is untested but he's the only other option.

He's not the only option. There were other options there for a long time, Trump was another option, not the only option.

It's not just terrorism. There seems to be this thinking problem creeping into modern culture where saying things like Merry Christmas is now considered politically incorrect or even insulting. Some stores refuse to hang signs with the words in fear of respite.

I don't think stores are avoiding Christian messages for fear of respite, they just don't want to alienate other religions because those people have money too. That's always the bottom line for a business, it doesn't matter what your politics or religion is, as long as you've got money that's all that matters.

Trent Houseboat · 15-12-2016 04:49PM

Hank Scorpio wrote:

It's not just terrorism. There seems to be this thinking problem creeping into modern culture where saying things like Merry Christmas is now considered politically incorrect or even insulting. Some stores refuse to hang signs with the words in fear of respite. The leftist push is becoming very tolerant of others yet at the same time showing disdain for the average person, and me no likey.

It's not considered offensive or politically incorrect. It just means noting to a growing number of people.

It's like calling everyone "Dave". It applies to some people but not to everyone else. Most people to whom it doesn't apply aren't going to care. Some will ask you not, at which point you claim that you're being oppressed by the jackboot of the PC Polizei.
If you think that's disdain then you're easily offended snowflake. Night, night.

PS
"Merry Christmas" is a supplantation of the traditional Irish "Happy Christmas" by American Cultural Imperialists, but I'm accepting of other cultures so it only bother me a little.

Zubeneschamali · 15-12-2016 04:52PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

What about in 5 years time, or 10 years?

In 5 years or 10 years time you will still be far more likely to die a violent death in the US than in Western Europe, just like today, 5 years or 10 years ago.

Hank Scorpio · 15-12-2016 04:52PM

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't think stores are avoiding Christian messages for fear of respite, they just don't want to alienate other religions because those people have money too. That's always the bottom line for a business, it doesn't matter what your politics or religion is, as long as you've got money that's all that matters.

The social problems are unavoidable. Multiculturalism has failed, even in the UK different groups are living in parallel, there's no real integration after all this time.

Now it's all about limiting free speech and soft spoken tolerance.

Christy42 · 15-12-2016 04:53PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

What about in 5 years time, or 10 years? Just because you visit a part of a country doesn't mean other places in that Country are free from severe cultural and ideology problems. There's videos of immigrants ripping up entire streets in Paris. There is a problem. Perhaps I exaggerated but it exists none the less.

There's been 12 terrorism attacks in France this year so far and most of them are attributed to immigration and multiculturalism difficulties. Do you think the problem is going to go away in time or get better? So say Europe doesn't have a problem right now is wrong IMO. Remember during the summer the uproar that was going on?

Something needs to be done in the middle east to fix the problem and I have zero faith HRC is capable of doing it. She created a lot of the mess. Trump is untested but he's the only other option. She has strong ties to countries funding ISIS and I simply do not trust her.

It's not just terrorism. There seems to be this thinking problem creeping into modern culture where saying things like Merry Christmas is now considered politically incorrect or even insulting. Some stores refuse to hang signs with the words in fear of respite. The leftist push is becoming very tolerant of others yet at the same time showing disdain for the average person, and me no likey.

I'm out, need sleep. Watch out for the Putin nukes

This contradicts your earlier he'll hole comments. I get it was hyperbole but it doesn't help a discussion. Especially after this year it is hard to tell when people really mean it or not.

I don't see Trump making Germany any safer and no extremists will be stopped by a wall on the Mexican border. At least now we are getting closer to a discussion on what type of president he will be.

wonderfullife · 15-12-2016 05:22PM

seamus wrote: »

What's hardly fair?
In Ireland when we vote for a President or a referendum, the urban areas can carry the whole vote.

That's democracy, the will of the majority.

Agree.

I have never (and will never) understand people who think it's unfair.

Nobody is forcing people to live in Dublin or Cork or San Diego or San Fran. There is freedom of movement for all peoples in Ireland and USA. If movement was restricted then yes they'd have a point.

You can live wherever you want in the nation. The concept that the popular vote means nothing due to geographical populations means nothing!

The popular vote of the people representing a nation should stand regardless of where those people reside in the country.

ScumLord · 15-12-2016 05:30PM

Hank Scorpio wrote: »

The social problems are unavoidable. Multiculturalism has failed, even in the UK different groups are living in parallel, there's no real integration after all this time.

Now it's all about limiting free speech and soft spoken tolerance.

I go to the UK at least twice a year and not only could I avoid the social problems, I couldn't find any.

Multiculturalism has been part of humanity for thousands of years. Before Christianity came along and white washed all Europeans there would have been countless cultures, someone from Cork could have had a different culture and set of gods to someone from Dublin.

I just don't understand how this monoculturalism could work. Like, food is culture, without absorbing other cultures Irish people wouldn't even be eating potatoes, we'd be sucking on blackberries and eating deer.

The language we speak is imported, we haven't come up with any of the major technologies that are ingrained in our society, farming was imported, even republicanism was imported, nothing about being Irish was invented in this country, it's all been imported. If we don't import culture it's likely we'd be running around fields naked within a year.

Zubeneschamali · 15-12-2016 05:41PM

ScumLord wrote: »

we'd be running around fields naked within a year.

Woo-hoo!

Professor Moriarty · 15-12-2016 05:47PM

ScumLord wrote: »

I go to the UK at least twice a year and not only could I avoid the social problems, I couldn't find any.

Multiculturalism has been part of humanity for thousands of years. Before Christianity came along and white washed all Europeans there would have been countless cultures, someone from Cork could have had a different culture and set of gods to someone from Dublin.

I just don't understand how this monoculturalism could work. Like, food is culture, without absorbing other cultures Irish people wouldn't even be eating potatoes, we'd be sucking on blackberries and eating deer.

The language we speak is imported, we haven't come up with any of the major technologies that are ingrained in our society, farming was imported, even republicanism was imported, nothing about being Irish was invented in this country, it's all been imported. If we don't import culture it's likely we'd be running around fields naked within a year.

So other cultures replaced my deer and blackberries with potatoes? Bastards.

Zubeneschamali · 15-12-2016 06:09PM

Christy42 wrote: »

At least now we are getting closer to a discussion on what type of president he will be.

People worried about nuclear codes and healthcare are wrong to worry about Trump, he doesn't care about that stuff - he just thinks the New York elite will finally have to answer his calls instead of treating him like a jumped-up vulgar New Jersey Oompa-Loompa.

He's wrong, of course, and will get really angry and vindictive on twitter.

It will all be very entertaining (at least from a distance), and will distract from the people like Paul Ryan who really do want to destroy healthcare and social security.

BattleCorp · 15-12-2016 06:11PM

Trump would serve himself well if he deleted his twitter account for a start.

Renegade Mechanic · 15-12-2016 06:34PM

Lol... Where did Jill Stein's big recount go?
Hardly anything to do with finding things like more democratic votes in Detroit than there were voters or anything, course not...
http://www.mrctv.org/blog/signs-potential-voter-fraud-just-popped-across-37-detroit
Goot thing the supreme court put the brakes on any other attempts before something properly hilarious was pulled up.

Oh and er, How would you like your news stories? Good choice, sir.
Cia... Scumbags that gave even the old KGB scumbags pause for thought.

Lol. I'm delighted a genuine, proper c*nt beat all the sneaky hiding c*nts by being a c*nt.
F*ck em

ebbsy · 15-12-2016 06:44PM

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Lol... Where did Jill Stein's big recount go?
Hardly anything to do with finding things like more democratic votes in Detroit than there were voters or anything, course not...
http://www.mrctv.org/blog/signs-potential-voter-fraud-just-popped-across-37-detroit
Goot thing the supreme court put the brakes on any other attempts before something properly hilarious was pulled up.

Oh and er, How would you like your news stories? Good choice, sir.
Cia... Scumbags that gave even the old KGB scumbags pause for thought.

Lol. I'm delighted a genuine, proper c*nt beat all the sneaky hiding c*nts by being a c*nt.
F*ck em

Jill Stein should be locked up in jail. Along with Billary of course.

KingBrian2 · 15-12-2016 06:46PM

If their is fraud to be investigated in this election it won't be good for the Democrats or the Republicans. If it could root out the corruption in American politics it might be worth doing. Only way I see it happen if we had agreement between the President Elect, Congress & Supreme Court.

ebbsy · 16-12-2016 08:20AM

Obama can't go any lower at this point.

Will there be a ****ing charity single against Trump released by a group of losers as well ?

HellSquirrel · 16-12-2016 09:10AM

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

People worried about nuclear codes and healthcare are wrong to worry about Trump, he doesn't care about that stuff - he just thinks the New York elite will finally have to answer his calls instead of treating him like a jumped-up vulgar New Jersey Oompa-Loompa.

He's wrong, of course, and will get really angry and vindictive on twitter.

It will all be very entertaining (at least from a distance), and will distract from the people like Paul Ryan who really do want to destroy healthcare and social security.

So far, his cabinet is actually ridiculously evil. It's like the Council of Arses. It's rather impressive that he's so consistently finding them. I expect to hear Alex Jones as Press Secretary at this point.

While people might disagree with individual programs and methods, part of the job of the government is to ensure that all their citizens have a basic standard of life to create opportunities from.

So far, his seventeen cabinet picks apparently have a greater gross wealth than a third of Americans put together, so they're really going to understand that, when they haven't the least idea of what it is to struggle. You'd think Carson might, but apparently not.

Then you have the anti-environment EPA guy, the odd general that may be superb tactically but hasn't the common sense to tell ****e from facts (the pizza shop thing? Really?), an Exxon-Mobil CEO with strong links to Russia as Sec State, a Treasury pick (Mnunchin) who sold his bank to a buyer that subsequently discovered there was 230m missing from it - and also his company once foreclosed on a 90-yr old widow over a payment error of 0.27c, because we always have to have a ridiculously evil moment with these guys for some reason. Then there is the blatantly racist Jeff Sessions as Att. General and just Steve Bannon, who doesn't even need explanation. Oh, and Carson, who permanently gives the impression of having just wandered into the wrong room. A genius neurosurgeon he undoubtedly is, but so far, he appears to be a complete ditz in anything not surgery-related. I get the impression he's going to spend the next couple of years in a state of mild confusion. Although I also get the impression that this isn't unusual for the man. Oh, and a Goldman Sachs executive for Economy (Cohn), after months of going on about how Goldman Sachs owns all his opponents. At least this guy doesn't seem to have any egregious scandals, although he does reckon that central banks are very mean to individual banks making money and supports deregulation because of course he does.

I'm sure there's a couple of normal ones amongst them, although I feel almost sorry for them if there are.

Wanderer78 · 16-12-2016 09:20AM

HellSquirrel wrote:

I'm sure there's a couple of normal ones amongst them, although I feel almost sorry for them if there are.

Very few if any normal people in the republican party. Train wreck of an administration

El Presidente Trump

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